DominicCobb said:
moviefreakedmind said:
DominicCobb said:
Mrebo said:
Jeebus said:
Mrebo said:
moviefreakedmind said:
As for mrebo, no one is cutting off the right, they’re bigger than ever on Youtube and just want to play the victim like they always do.
Yes, people on the right are being cut off. It’s not “playing victim” when powerful media corporations shut out people based on their political views.
Except that’s not what’s happening, at least in Youtube’s case. Youtube is demonetizing a great many people, not all of them are conservative or even political commentators at all. Left-wing commentators, gun channels, “reaction” channels, gaming channels, it’s happening across the board.
I have a problem with youtube’s demonetizing in general. I am more familiar with people on the right being targeted (and I’d include gun channels in that), but I am also aware of youtube discriminating against reaction & gaming channels for swearing (or extreme antics). But I’m not just talking youtube.
. . . and making light of suicide (including footage of a dead body).
People make light of suicide every day, and that includes the ignorant people behind a lot of the anti-suicide campaigns, which are usually really insulting and obviously come from people privileged enough to not want to kill themselves. Footage of a dead body is the farthest thing in the world from “making light of suicide.” Logan Paul is a piece of shit by the way, I don’t deny that, but he’s a piece of shit for monetizing an issue he obviously doesn’t care about, not for showing a dead body. 13 Reasons Why is another thing that people claimed made light of suicide when it obviously didn’t.
How was what he did not making light of suicide? The whole video was about “lulz people kill themselves in this forest.”
I didn’t see the video because I don’t watch Logan Paul - because I don’t suck 😉 - but like I implied and should’ve made clear, the whole cavalier attitude and motivation behind the video was what made light of suicide, not the footage of the body itself, which is what people latched onto.
I can’t comment on 13 Reasons Why because I didn’t watch it but I read from people who actually had suicidal tendencies who weren’t fans so maybe I’d say they’re better authorities than you (not to say their opinion is objectively correct, just that yours definitely isn’t even though you present it as “obvious”).
I’ve tried to kill myself many times and recently realized that I’ve had suicidal ideation for over 50% of my life so I’d say I’m a better authority than most. Showing someone writhing in pain as they bleed to death “obviously” (and I think that’s a fair use of the word) doesn’t glorify suicide or make light of it. Maybe it doesn’t deter it. That’s a fair conversation to have and I don’t think 13 Reasons Why does deter it at all, but to say that it makes light of suicide is not fair.
There’s an argument to be made too that Youtube is a private company and can decide who makes money on their site or not as they please.
That’s an argument that only works against conservative voices in the debate. I don’t believe that giant platforms like Youtube should dictate who can and can’t speak on them. They’re too integral to society these days. As for advertisers, that’s a different story, but in terms of who can and can’t speak, I think it should basically operate how the 1st amendment does.
Is Youtube banning accounts? Honest question. In my mind demonetizing and banning aren’t the same thing. Demonetizing is essentially what you’re talking about: advertisers.
They’ve banned some for very dubious reasons, mostly ones that I don’t care about but not any that are illegal. I don’t have a problem with them banning violent content, like ISIS or people calling for genocide and inciting violence. Like I said, I think it should be handled like the 1st Amendment.
