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Oh yeah indeed, it’s 5.1. But the clip isn’t complete. It’s part another deleted sequence and part the very beginning of the Luke deleted scene.

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Hal 9000 said:

MalàStrana said:

Oh yeah indeed, it’s 5.1. But the clip isn’t complete. It’s part another deleted sequence and part the very beginning of the Luke deleted scene.

Not sure how I did that! Here’s a link to a proper version, and the other post has been fixed:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12vJZ5jfd43QRUE0c0Fqp6EvQ8Vif4lQT

Love the work you’re doing Hal. This is my first comment on your edit.

I was wondering if you could hang on the door a bit longer? Luke leaving the door and kneeling happens a bit too quickly. Let the music as it moves down a few notes take us to Luke’s position as he kneels down.

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I assume it’s been addressed already, but when Finn says that “Look I’m not a Resistance hero…” it feels rather out of place considering no one had previously mentioned heroes as dialog has been cut. And I guess there’s nothing to be done about the magically moving backpack?

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I had some time today and decided to mock-up the following:

Luke Has A Moment ‘Rescored’ - Take II

Link: https://vimeo.com/271378272
Password: fanedit

  • Per MalàStrana’s suggestion on the thread, I used the first part of “Torn Apart” from TFA
  • Per jrs81’s suggestion on the thread, the shot of the door is extended

I think it works well. Let me know your thoughts!

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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On an unrelated note… if you are including the deleted scene with Finn and Poe at the beginning, I think you should also include the “Finn & Rose Go Where They Belong” deleted scene as they kinda go together. “I don’t belong here” -> “Going where I belong”

I would also recommend cutting the closeup of Snoke and cutting straight to Hux watching Snoke’s body fall out of the chair. If you look at Snoke’s mouth it is mostly open in the closeup but is then more closed in the wide shot, just a small inconsistency.

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

I had some time today and decided to mock-up the following:

Luke Has A Moment ‘Rescored’ - Take II

Link: https://vimeo.com/271378272
Password: fanedit

  • Per MalàStrana’s suggestion on the thread, I used the first part of “Torn Apart” from TFA
  • Per jrs81’s suggestion on the thread, the shot of the door is extended

I think it works well. Let me know your thoughts!

That’s good, but I would linger on the door even longer. Almost uncomfortably long. How long would Luke stand there in silence, before falling to his knees?

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natedeug said:

I assume it’s been addressed already, but when Finn says that “Look I’m not a Resistance hero…” it feels rather out of place considering no one had previously mentioned heroes as dialog has been cut. And I guess there’s nothing to be done about the magically moving backpack?

I’ll have to look at this again, since I’ve gotten this feedback from a few people. Rose’s comment and self-conscious reflection might not be able to be cut fluidly.

DZ-330, that’s not a back mockup for the music! I have something to try myself whenever I get the chance, hopefully by the end of the weekend.

The short scene where Finn and Rose “go where they belong” seems near impossible to implement seamlessly with the available footage (and, more importantly, audio). Therefore, the first Finn deleted scene’s line about being where he belongs works but does not now set anything up for later.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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DZ-330 said:

I had some time today and decided to mock-up the following:

Luke Has A Moment ‘Rescored’ - Take II

Link: https://vimeo.com/271378272
Password: fanedit

  • Per MalàStrana’s suggestion on the thread, I used the first part of “Torn Apart” from TFA
  • Per jrs81’s suggestion on the thread, the shot of the door is extended

I think it works well. Let me know your thoughts!

I actually really like this choice of music.

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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Hal 9000 said:

I do genuinely like that Luke throws the saber, echoing ROTJ’s saber toss in a meaningful way. I just don’t like the comic manner in which it was executed. I love the ‘alternate take’ seen in the bonus material, it’s just too bad we don’t have it framed in such a way as could actually be used seamlessly.

You’re right: the ‘alternate take’ of Luke throwing the lightsaber wouldn’t be seamless. But I honestly think it’s better to have it done in two shots than the one shot which appears comical. This remains the best version of it I’ve seen — better than dropping it, in my opinion. If you don’t do it, that’s fine, I’ll get over it, but I still won’t like it! Oh well.


Hal 9000 said:

One idea for sneaking in an honest “I have a bad feeling about this” would be to slip one in by 3PO (from offscreen) right before Leia tells him to wipe a nervous expression off his face, sourced from one of many times I’m sure Anthony Daniels has recorded the line in spinoff material. However, this would likely feel shoehorned in and undercut the existing nice joke.

This is actually an interesting idea, but one that I don’t really feel is necessary.


I just want to bring up one more scene that really bugs me: it’s when Rose’s sister (Paige) starts kicking the ladder to get the damn remote to drop the bombs. It bugs me so much because I’m just screaming at my TV, “JUST CLIMB BACK UP THE FREAKING LADDER!” It’s so long and drawn out, and it just bugs me.

It bugs me enough that I re-edited it and removed a couple of her kicks, so now it falls on the third kick. Also, I removed the part where the remote flies past her. Any thoughts here?

https://vimeo.com/271029259
password: fanedit

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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Hal 9000 said:

Welp, I lied! I went ahead and did a mockup of that very idea. This would be about what it would sound like if I did it for real, so please vet it accordingly.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QaBFQTGmGVioVj2XSztTFHsqeoSJMxhY

Thank you for this. I actually found I had much more of an emotional reaction to this scene using this score, rather than the other. It’s a little softer and more intimate, while the original was rather loud and melodramatic. I actually just showed a friend of mine this version, and her reaction was, “Oh no, I feel so sad for Luke.”

Watching Luke in such a private and mournful moment is something that shouldn’t be exaggerated with a loud score, but rather, it should be quiet, almost as though we there with him. This new music selection feels much more appropriate.

Only issue I have is right at the very beginning when the music starts playing. It sounds like it’s fading in too much. Can you either shorten the time of the fade in or have it start when it hits the next note?

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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Hal 9000 said:

Welp, I lied! I went ahead and did a mockup of that very idea. This would be about what it would sound like if I did it for real, so please vet it accordingly.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QaBFQTGmGVioVj2XSztTFHsqeoSJMxhY

Sounds good. I started the music a little earlier in mine because I thought it felt a bit rushed where the music originally started in the scene. Either way, it is still much better than having repeating music back-to-back.

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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Ziggy, regarding your preview for Paige kicking the ladder…

I realllyyyy like it. I originally had just cut out her very first kick but I like removing the extra few right at the end. The only thing I would keep is the remote falling past her. By taking the drama out of the kicks, it can now be focused on when the remote is nearly missed.

Return of the Jedi: Remastered

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Guys, very good mockups for the Luke moment scene ! It seems you won’t need my help at all ! (which is fine, very busy week for me and you’re better than me at this anyway 😃). The music works well and works even better that the original does (which is, if I’m not mistaken, the music from TFA when the Republic is destroyed, right ?). Only very small issue being the fade out when Leia’s shot begins. I would personnaly have tried to get to the “light speed” sound as the Leia’s shot begins, so the fade out/fade in would begin around one second sooner.

Also, I love the idea of trimming the bomb scene. I love this scene but it’s a little bit too long for no real good reason.

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ziggyonice said:

You’re right: the ‘alternate take’ of Luke throwing the lightsaber wouldn’t be seamless. But I honestly think it’s better to have it done in two shots than the one shot which appears comical. This remains the best version of it I’ve seen — better than dropping it, in my opinion. If you don’t do it, that’s fine, I’ll get over it, but I still won’t like it! Oh well.

I reeeeeaaaalllllly wish we had that shot at normal speed, with the same framing, and plenty of runout space. It’s too jarring to be used as is, IMHO, which is very unfortunate.

I just want to bring up one more scene that really bugs me: it’s when Rose’s sister (Paige) starts kicking the ladder to get the damn remote to drop the bombs. It bugs me so much because I’m just screaming at my TV, “JUST CLIMB BACK UP THE FREAKING LADDER!” It’s so long and drawn out, and it just bugs me.

I like this! I’ll try it myself, and will likely go with it. Though, I’ll keep the remote flying past her initially.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Hal 9000 said:

https://vimeo.com/271494997
password: fanedit

Here’s another test with the Luke moment scene, taking feedback into account.

Best version so far. The audio transition is way better, especially the beginning. I still feel the fade out would be seamless if it was sync with the light speed sound… I wonder if removing a few frames (maybe a complete second) from Leia (with audio) could do the trick (around 0:39 and 0:40).

Good news for the kick ladder scene ! I also agree with the fact the passing remote shot is essential and should not be altered.

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Hal 9000 said:

https://vimeo.com/271494997
password: fanedit

Here’s another test with the Luke moment scene, taking feedback into account.

I really am digging this. Beautiful take.

Hal 9000 said:

ziggyonice said:

I just want to bring up one more scene that really bugs me: it’s when Rose’s sister (Paige) starts kicking the ladder to get the damn remote to drop the bombs. It bugs me so much because I’m just screaming at my TV, “JUST CLIMB BACK UP THE FREAKING LADDER!” It’s so long and drawn out, and it just bugs me.

I like this! I’ll try it myself, and will likely go with it. Though, I’ll keep the remote flying past her initially.

I’d really like to see your take on it. That whole sequence seems to be building up tension for no reason at all, and her repeated kicking of the ladder just makes it silly. Shorting that sequence would help significantly. (The remote flying past her I can deal with.)

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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Hello,

Another thing that still sort of bothers me is how much Snoke telestrates for the audience what’s about to happen. I love how you cut out the shot of seeing the saber turning, but I still find the dialogue too obvious and distracting, and diverts attention from the tension between Kylo and Rey.

So I took a shot at removing the latter part of Snoke’s dialogue (“I cannot be betrayed…he kills his true enemy…”), and here’s the result:

https://vimeo.com/271774914
password: fanedit

The new music is from Torn Apart, which I think is appropriate here because it’s the same track that plays when Kylo kills Han Solo, so it’s kind a mirror. Just an idea I figured I’d share!

Also, Hal, when you can, please send me the sunspot prores file.

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poppasketti said:

So I took a shot at removing the latter part of Snoke’s dialogue (“I cannot be betrayed…he kills his true enemy…”), and here’s the result:

https://vimeo.com/271774914
password: fanedit

The new music is from Torn Apart, which I think is appropriate here because it’s the same track that plays when Kylo kills Han Solo, so it’s kind a mirror. Just an idea I figured I’d share!

I LOVE this

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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poppasketti said:

Hello,

Another thing that still sort of bothers me is how much Snoke telestrates for the audience what’s about to happen. I love how you cut out the shot of seeing the saber turning, but I still find the dialogue too obvious and distracting, and diverts attention from the tension between Kylo and Rey.

So I took a shot at removing the latter part of Snoke’s dialogue (“I cannot be betrayed…he kills his true enemy…”), and here’s the result:

https://vimeo.com/271774914
password: fanedit

That’s very nice! It deftly avoids RJ’s double/triple/whatever fakeout while infusing a meaningful sense of emotion. Instantly sold. Do you already have it in full 5.1? If not, I should be able to recreate it.

My stance on revising fan edits.