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True Lies 35mm (Released)

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2022 Update: PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME ANY PMs ABOUT THIS SCAN. - A number of users have done this and I know they’re well-meaning and don’t know better, but 1. this is not my scan as is made clear in the original post below, and 2. Times have moved on - I do not have a download link to this to share any more. It was good scan quality in 2018, but it’s 2022 and compared to what can be done now it’s average at best.

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Shortly after Aladdin, the team with no name released True Lies to MySpleen and Blutopia. If you’re not a member of those sites please don’t ask for invites, however I do have an alternate link that can be shared privately if you would like to access the release. 😉 I am not involved, but a recent discussion with another member alerted me to the fact that the release wasn’t widely known about outside of those torrent trackers. So here is its OT.com discussion thread!

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Info (from Myspleen):

True.Lies.1994.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0

Sourced from a 4K scan of an original release theatrical print

MD5 checksum of the .mkv file: 58F1568B7ED673EA7470DAC162547F31

Size of the .mkv file: 27 621 105 041 bytes

(read this before asking any questions)
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Are you still waiting for the True Lies blu-ray to come out? You don't have to anymore, here's something better.

Following our tradition of the "v1.0" releases:

- Only some mild cleanup was applied
- The print is LPP, so no color fading here
- The encode is blu-ray compliant
- The release is NOT synchronized to official BD (certainly not in the case of this movie...)

Before you ask "Why is this movie so blue???": because that's how it looked in the theaters. You may have seen a D-VHS rip of this movie, but that one appears to be a scan of the original negative, or interpositive, without any color timing applied.

Audio track #1 (default) is the cinema DTS track ripped from the discs used in theaters. It's recommended to watch the movie with this track
Audio track #2 is a capture of the optical Dolby Stereo track present on the print. It was played in theaters without DTS system, included in this release for completion only

Example frames:

https://postimg.io/gallery/2ey3b0qck/

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FAQ
(I mostly just copy-paste this into nfo of every release, but sometimes I add new answers)

Q: Do you have a website, or some other place where I could send you spam e-mails/PMs?
A: No. We kinda have a certain "home tracker" (at least for now, it can change anytime), where I upload all releases and respond to PMs and comments. ALL other torrents, warez etc. found on the internet were uploaded by someone else and could have been modified. Our releases always include a BD-sized encode, .nfo file and the donation picture. Since these files end up in many different places on the internet, I will not disclose the name of the tracker I upload to.

Q: Why are colors in some of your scans so different than those in official releases?
A: Because sadly very few studios care about having their movies properly presented on home video. They often make quick, cheap scans of the negative, slap it with some automated dirt cleanup and push it out for easy money. Color timing was a difficult, chemical process that many don't bother to recreate, and the result is always a dull image without any distinctive traits.

Q: You said the file is sourced from a 4K scan, why don't you release a 4K version?
A: I won't go into details here, basically we think that it's too early to dive into 4K encodes. Don't worry, the original scan files are safe and all movies that we have will get a 4K release at some point in the future.

Q: Why do some of your audio captures contain obvious errors?
A: Sometimes the audio capture from the print is supposed to be the main track for viewing - in which case we give it the attention it deserves. On the other hand, very often the 35mm track is inferior to a Laserdisc capture of the same mix, because of damage, missing parts and other problems that can't be completely fixed. Movies that contain cinema DTS tracks also have the optical 35mm track included only for completion, with minimal amount of work done with it.

Q: What does "open matte" mean?
A: A standard 35mm film cell can hold image at about 1.37:1 aspect ratio. This is similar in shape to old CRT TVs, obviously not many movies were shown in theaters like that. There were two general ways to get widescreen image from film - some were shot with anamorphic lens, which basically "squeezed" image with 2.35:1 ratio to fit on film, and then theater projectors used special lens to stretch it back out. The other way was just cropping top and bottom parts of the image, leaving image in e.g. 1.85:1. Some filmmakers used "hard matting" technique, which came down to attaching two black bars to the camera lens, restricting some of the light from going in and thereby forcing a certain aspect ratio. Others either didn't care, or simply decided against it, leaving the cropping to projectionists at theaters. An "open matte" version in our slang means that the image from the print is shown in its entirety, complete with parts that were never intended to be seen.

Q: What does "LPP" mean?
A: LPP is a low fade film stock. It was introduced in 1982, and all movies produced after that year have used this type of stock. "Low fade" means "really, really low fade". The color on a properly stored LPP print will outlive all of us.

Q: Why do some releases have "LPP" in their name, while others don't?
A: We include the stock in the release name only for movies from before 1982, that were reprinted on LPP stock.

Q: Why is it so dark/shouldn't black levels be higher/is the detail lost in dark areas?
A: Dark areas on 35mm prints hold very little detail, what is present there on the negative (which most commercial blu-rays are based on) never makes it to theatrical prints due to generational loss. Increasing black levels is a matter of preference and doesn't actually reveal any detail. If you feel the movie is too dark, you can simply increase the brightness setting on your TV/video player and achieve the same effect. Keep in mind, that this is not necessarily bad - filmmakers made their films knowing that dark areas would look really dark on the prints. What you're seeing on blu-rays is often not what was originally intended to be seen.

Q: Why does this release has less detail than blu-ray? I thought it was supposed to be 1080p?!
A: Commercial blu-rays are most often sourced from negative scans, which hold more detail than theatrical prints, and there is nothing we can do about it. The image on prints, because of analog nature of print production process, is softer, has less detail and is more grainy, but most of the time has better contrast and colors. Our versions look just like they did in theaters, there are no missing scenes, added scenes, changed sfx, changed color timing, DNR scrubbing or any other revisionist changes.

Q: When will you release a cleaned up version of X/open matte version of Y?
A: When it's done. If it's being done at all.

Q: Why can't you release more often?
A: Because we don't have as much time and money for it as we would like. If you want to see more from us, consider donating to the bitcoin address. Prints, hard drives, and other materials we use cost money.
________________

List of our releases (chronologically):

Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0
The.Matrix 1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0 (flawed, do not download)
The.Matrix 1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0
Star.Trek.III.The.Search.For.Spock.1984.35mm.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.v1.0
Raiders.of.the.Lost.Ark.1981.35mm.LPP.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.LITEMAKR.v1.0
Lady.and.the.Tramp.1955.35mm.LPP.1080p.Dolby.Surround.v1.0
Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.Open.Matte.v1.0
Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.Superwide.Open.Matte.v1.0
Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0
Ghostbusters.1984.35mm.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.v1.0
Aladdin.1992.35mm.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.v1.0
True.Lies.1994.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0

Very well done to the team behind this release, it looks and sounds GREAT!

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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I’m surprised it took this long for someone to mention this one, it came out late last year didn’t it?

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Yeah they released it just before Christmas. It’s one of their best releases so far. The print appears very undamaged - when you compare for example to Ghostbusters.

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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A big thank you to RU.08 for pointing out that great release!

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does this movie actually have a bluray release or is it all talk like abyss? I couldn’t find one, although they mention it in the description.

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There has never been an official Blu Ray or HD release of both True Lies and The Abyss.

The ones that are out there on the torrent sites are rips/captures from HD-TV and DVHS.

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Well, to be strict, the D-Theater release on D-VHS in fact is an official HD release and the only one so far. 😉

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I’m pretty sure one of the project members owns the D-VHS.

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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Hello, can anyone possibly assist me obtaining this please?

Please? 😃

Film is not Dead

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Which release is “this” referring to after all “please please” - the 35mm or the ‘open matte video’ one?

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little-endian said:

Which release is “this” referring to after all “please please” - the 35mm or the ‘open matte video’ one?

The 35mm version ideally… please 😃

Film is not Dead

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The DTS 5.1 mix and the Dolby Stereo Mix on this release sounds amazing!! I wonder if the scanning facility used Dolby SR equipment when transferring the Optical mix, because it barely has any hiss or crackling, It sounds just as good as any digital mix in my opinion.

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Hey there RU.08, I’ve PMed you regarding the alternative links. Could you please get back with me when you’re available?

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Hello, How do we get the links ?

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RU.08 said:

Shortly after Aladdin, the team with no name released True Lies to MySpleen and Blutopia. If you’re not a member of those sites please don’t ask for invites, however I do have an alternate link that can be shared privately if you would like to access the release. 😉 I am not involved, but a recent discussion with another member alerted me to the fact that the release wasn’t widely known about outside of those torrent trackers. So here is its OT.com discussion thread!

Screenshots:










Info (from Myspleen):

True.Lies.1994.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0

Sourced from a 4K scan of an original release theatrical print

MD5 checksum of the .mkv file: 58F1568B7ED673EA7470DAC162547F31

Size of the .mkv file: 27 621 105 041 bytes

(read this before asking any questions)
________________

Are you still waiting for the True Lies blu-ray to come out? You don't have to anymore, here's something better.

Following our tradition of the "v1.0" releases:

- Only some mild cleanup was applied
- The print is LPP, so no color fading here
- The encode is blu-ray compliant
- The release is NOT synchronized to official BD (certainly not in the case of this movie...)

Before you ask "Why is this movie so blue???": because that's how it looked in the theaters. You may have seen a D-VHS rip of this movie, but that one appears to be a scan of the original negative, or interpositive, without any color timing applied.

Audio track #1 (default) is the cinema DTS track ripped from the discs used in theaters. It's recommended to watch the movie with this track
Audio track #2 is a capture of the optical Dolby Stereo track present on the print. It was played in theaters without DTS system, included in this release for completion only

Example frames:

https://postimg.io/gallery/2ey3b0qck/

________________

FAQ
(I mostly just copy-paste this into nfo of every release, but sometimes I add new answers)

Q: Do you have a website, or some other place where I could send you spam e-mails/PMs?
A: No. We kinda have a certain "home tracker" (at least for now, it can change anytime), where I upload all releases and respond to PMs and comments. ALL other torrents, warez etc. found on the internet were uploaded by someone else and could have been modified. Our releases always include a BD-sized encode, .nfo file and the donation picture. Since these files end up in many different places on the internet, I will not disclose the name of the tracker I upload to.

Q: Why are colors in some of your scans so different than those in official releases?
A: Because sadly very few studios care about having their movies properly presented on home video. They often make quick, cheap scans of the negative, slap it with some automated dirt cleanup and push it out for easy money. Color timing was a difficult, chemical process that many don't bother to recreate, and the result is always a dull image without any distinctive traits.

Q: You said the file is sourced from a 4K scan, why don't you release a 4K version?
A: I won't go into details here, basically we think that it's too early to dive into 4K encodes. Don't worry, the original scan files are safe and all movies that we have will get a 4K release at some point in the future.

Q: Why do some of your audio captures contain obvious errors?
A: Sometimes the audio capture from the print is supposed to be the main track for viewing - in which case we give it the attention it deserves. On the other hand, very often the 35mm track is inferior to a Laserdisc capture of the same mix, because of damage, missing parts and other problems that can't be completely fixed. Movies that contain cinema DTS tracks also have the optical 35mm track included only for completion, with minimal amount of work done with it.

Q: What does "open matte" mean?
A: A standard 35mm film cell can hold image at about 1.37:1 aspect ratio. This is similar in shape to old CRT TVs, obviously not many movies were shown in theaters like that. There were two general ways to get widescreen image from film - some were shot with anamorphic lens, which basically "squeezed" image with 2.35:1 ratio to fit on film, and then theater projectors used special lens to stretch it back out. The other way was just cropping top and bottom parts of the image, leaving image in e.g. 1.85:1. Some filmmakers used "hard matting" technique, which came down to attaching two black bars to the camera lens, restricting some of the light from going in and thereby forcing a certain aspect ratio. Others either didn't care, or simply decided against it, leaving the cropping to projectionists at theaters. An "open matte" version in our slang means that the image from the print is shown in its entirety, complete with parts that were never intended to be seen.

Q: What does "LPP" mean?
A: LPP is a low fade film stock. It was introduced in 1982, and all movies produced after that year have used this type of stock. "Low fade" means "really, really low fade". The color on a properly stored LPP print will outlive all of us.

Q: Why do some releases have "LPP" in their name, while others don't?
A: We include the stock in the release name only for movies from before 1982, that were reprinted on LPP stock.

Q: Why is it so dark/shouldn't black levels be higher/is the detail lost in dark areas?
A: Dark areas on 35mm prints hold very little detail, what is present there on the negative (which most commercial blu-rays are based on) never makes it to theatrical prints due to generational loss. Increasing black levels is a matter of preference and doesn't actually reveal any detail. If you feel the movie is too dark, you can simply increase the brightness setting on your TV/video player and achieve the same effect. Keep in mind, that this is not necessarily bad - filmmakers made their films knowing that dark areas would look really dark on the prints. What you're seeing on blu-rays is often not what was originally intended to be seen.

Q: Why does this release has less detail than blu-ray? I thought it was supposed to be 1080p?!
A: Commercial blu-rays are most often sourced from negative scans, which hold more detail than theatrical prints, and there is nothing we can do about it. The image on prints, because of analog nature of print production process, is softer, has less detail and is more grainy, but most of the time has better contrast and colors. Our versions look just like they did in theaters, there are no missing scenes, added scenes, changed sfx, changed color timing, DNR scrubbing or any other revisionist changes.

Q: When will you release a cleaned up version of X/open matte version of Y?
A: When it's done. If it's being done at all.

Q: Why can't you release more often?
A: Because we don't have as much time and money for it as we would like. If you want to see more from us, consider donating to the bitcoin address. Prints, hard drives, and other materials we use cost money.
________________

List of our releases (chronologically):

Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0
The.Matrix 1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0 (flawed, do not download)
The.Matrix 1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0
Star.Trek.III.The.Search.For.Spock.1984.35mm.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.v1.0
Raiders.of.the.Lost.Ark.1981.35mm.LPP.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.LITEMAKR.v1.0
Lady.and.the.Tramp.1955.35mm.LPP.1080p.Dolby.Surround.v1.0
Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.Open.Matte.v1.0
Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.Superwide.Open.Matte.v1.0
Jurassic.Park.1993.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0
Ghostbusters.1984.35mm.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.v1.0
Aladdin.1992.35mm.1080p.Dolby.Stereo.v1.0
True.Lies.1994.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v1.0

Very well done to the team behind this release, it looks and sounds GREAT!

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Wow great project! It’s good to see some love put into a film like this - considering no official release is in reasonable sight!

I would love an invite to Blutopia, if anyone can help. It would be greatly appreciated. 😃

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Not to crap on this, but the scanning colors are waaaaayyyy offf It all looks milky. Not the way the film actually looks in 35mm.

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Richard Stamper said:

Not to crap on this,

Kind of sounds like it…

Richard Stamper said:
but the scanning colors are waaaaayyyy offf It all looks milky. Not the way the film actually looks in 35mm.

I think it looks pretty accurate

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This is a agfa print - adapted scope.

Web Pic

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Hey late to the party but how can i get this 35mm cinema dts v1.0?

Wouldn’t mind some of the jurassic parks too probs the 35mm v2.0 although i haven’t read up on the various jurassic parks yet

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StarWarsFanProject said:

Hey late to the party but how can i get this 35mm cinema dts v1.0?

Wouldn’t mind some of the jurassic parks too probs the 35mm v2.0 although i haven’t read up on the various jurassic parks yet

Same thing here! How could I have the link, please?