Yeah. Why should female nudity be treated differently?
It shouldn’t, although it’s important to note that typically that movement refers to women deciding for themselves to go shirtless, whereas in film/TV it’s often all males making those decisions (which is where the objectification issue can arise).
This.
I can’t be sad about objectification if people are working in the objectification business and choose to make more money than I’ll ever see in my lifetime from doing a nude scene. If they’re mistreated in the process, that’s a different issue.
The Person in Question
Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the idea that I can’t possibly understand how awful it is that females appear nude in film because I’m not a woman that’s sick and tired of the objectification (and by the way there’s plenty of women that don’t feel that way). I may not share the same anatomy with women, but I definitely have more in common with 99% of women in this country than those women have in common with the actresses that appear nude in film. The main thing being that neither of us have or will appear nude in a film. Also, what if I wanted to make a film with nudity in it? (Female nudity of course because that’s more offensive.) Am I supposed to hire an actress for that role and then change or delete the nude scene because she, even though she accepted the role, doesn’t want that to be filmed? I know I’m a male and all, but isn’t it up to the actress? Assuming the actors aren’t mistreated in the process of making the scene, why is it offensive whether the scene is necessary or not? Don’t we respect the bodies and decisions made by women? That’s what I thought we were supposed to do but apparently I’m behind the times.
The Person in Question
Yeah. Why should female nudity be treated differently?
It shouldn’t, although it’s important to note that typically that movement refers to women deciding for themselves to go shirtless, whereas in film/TV it’s often all males making those decisions (which is where the objectification issue can arise).
Last I heard, actors choose which roles they take. I criticized situations where the subject was mistreated, but apparently almost all female nudity is an offense to some moviegoers.
It’s a bit more complicated than that.
I don’t think it needs to be. If the actors aren’t mistreated, then how could it possibly be a problem?
The Person in Question
If nudity is really smutty or cheap and not artfully done, then I am opposed to it. Not necessarily because it “hurts women” or something like that, at least not unless the actress was mistreated, but I’m opposed to it because it was a cheap way to win over a cheap and lazy audience that needs what they call “eye candy” because they don’t have attention spans long enough to sit through a movie. That’s often not the case, at least not in movies I watch, and definitely doesn’t sound like the case in Blade Runner 237.
The Person in Question
The censorship when certain films air on tv can be hilarious. A couple brief nude shots are snipped in Clash Of The Titans (the Ray Harryhausen version) but Medusa’s exposed breasts usually get a pass.
The famous Room 237 scene in The Shining has had all the naughty bits digitally erased in the tv edit, making it look like Jack Nicholson is making out with a life sized Barbie doll.
Where were you in '77?
Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the idea that I can’t possibly understand how awful it is that females appear nude in film because I’m not a woman that’s sick and tired of the objectification (and by the way there’s plenty of women that don’t feel that way). I may not share the same anatomy with women, but I definitely have more in common with 99% of women in this country than those women have in common with the actresses that appear nude in film. The main thing being that neither of us have or will appear nude in a film. Also, what if I wanted to make a film with nudity in it? (Female nudity of course because that’s more offensive.) Am I supposed to hire an actress for that role and then change or delete the nude scene because she, even though she accepted the role, doesn’t want that to be filmed? I know I’m a male and all, but isn’t it up to the actress? Assuming the actors aren’t mistreated in the process of making the scene, why is it offensive whether the scene is necessary or not? Don’t we respect the bodies and decisions made by women? That’s what I thought we were supposed to do but apparently I’m behind the times.
Many an actress has a nude double. Both the worst and best kept secret in the industry.
Where were you in '77?
LOL! I’d never seen the TV cut of the Shining. I wonder how television would handle the Last Tango in Paris.
The Person in Question
Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the idea that I can’t possibly understand how awful it is that females appear nude in film because I’m not a woman that’s sick and tired of the objectification (and by the way there’s plenty of women that don’t feel that way). I may not share the same anatomy with women, but I definitely have more in common with 99% of women in this country than those women have in common with the actresses that appear nude in film. The main thing being that neither of us have or will appear nude in a film. Also, what if I wanted to make a film with nudity in it? (Female nudity of course because that’s more offensive.) Am I supposed to hire an actress for that role and then change or delete the nude scene because she, even though she accepted the role, doesn’t want that to be filmed? I know I’m a male and all, but isn’t it up to the actress? Assuming the actors aren’t mistreated in the process of making the scene, why is it offensive whether the scene is necessary or not? Don’t we respect the bodies and decisions made by women? That’s what I thought we were supposed to do but apparently I’m behind the times.
Many an actress has a nude double. Both the worst and best kept secret in the industry.
That’s also pretty common. I don’t see a problem with that either if they can make it work effectively. In that example I gave, though, sometimes the actor’s face needs to be in frame for it to work, especially if there’s interaction between characters during the scene.
The Person in Question
I love the TV censor of The Room.
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Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the idea that I can’t possibly understand how awful it is that females appear nude in film because I’m not a woman that’s sick and tired of the objectification (and by the way there’s plenty of women that don’t feel that way). I may not share the same anatomy with women, but I definitely have more in common with 99% of women in this country than those women have in common with the actresses that appear nude in film. The main thing being that neither of us have or will appear nude in a film. Also, what if I wanted to make a film with nudity in it? (Female nudity of course because that’s more offensive.) Am I supposed to hire an actress for that role and then change or delete the nude scene because she, even though she accepted the role, doesn’t want that to be filmed? I know I’m a male and all, but isn’t it up to the actress? Assuming the actors aren’t mistreated in the process of making the scene, why is it offensive whether the scene is necessary or not? Don’t we respect the bodies and decisions made by women? That’s what I thought we were supposed to do but apparently I’m behind the times.
Many an actress has a nude double. Both the worst and best kept secret in the industry.
That’s also pretty common. I don’t see a problem with that either if they can make it work effectively. In that example I gave, though, sometimes the actor’s face needs to be in frame for it to work, especially if there’s interaction between characters during the scene.
I think there have been a couple instances of digital head replacement in recent years.
Where were you in '77?
Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the idea that I can’t possibly understand how awful it is that females appear nude in film because I’m not a woman that’s sick and tired of the objectification (and by the way there’s plenty of women that don’t feel that way). I may not share the same anatomy with women, but I definitely have more in common with 99% of women in this country than those women have in common with the actresses that appear nude in film. The main thing being that neither of us have or will appear nude in a film. Also, what if I wanted to make a film with nudity in it? (Female nudity of course because that’s more offensive.) Am I supposed to hire an actress for that role and then change or delete the nude scene because she, even though she accepted the role, doesn’t want that to be filmed? I know I’m a male and all, but isn’t it up to the actress? Assuming the actors aren’t mistreated in the process of making the scene, why is it offensive whether the scene is necessary or not? Don’t we respect the bodies and decisions made by women? That’s what I thought we were supposed to do but apparently I’m behind the times.
Many an actress has a nude double. Both the worst and best kept secret in the industry.
That’s also pretty common. I don’t see a problem with that either if they can make it work effectively. In that example I gave, though, sometimes the actor’s face needs to be in frame for it to work, especially if there’s interaction between characters during the scene.
I think there have been a couple instances of digital head replacement in recent years.
Lena Heady on Game of Thrones due to her pregnancy while shooting the Walk of Shame being a recent example, and her brief topless scene the next season with the same body double for consistency.
Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the idea that I can’t possibly understand how awful it is that females appear nude in film because I’m not a woman that’s sick and tired of the objectification (and by the way there’s plenty of women that don’t feel that way). I may not share the same anatomy with women, but I definitely have more in common with 99% of women in this country than those women have in common with the actresses that appear nude in film. The main thing being that neither of us have or will appear nude in a film. Also, what if I wanted to make a film with nudity in it? (Female nudity of course because that’s more offensive.) Am I supposed to hire an actress for that role and then change or delete the nude scene because she, even though she accepted the role, doesn’t want that to be filmed? I know I’m a male and all, but isn’t it up to the actress? Assuming the actors aren’t mistreated in the process of making the scene, why is it offensive whether the scene is necessary or not? Don’t we respect the bodies and decisions made by women? That’s what I thought we were supposed to do but apparently I’m behind the times.
Many an actress has a nude double. Both the worst and best kept secret in the industry.
That’s also pretty common. I don’t see a problem with that either if they can make it work effectively. In that example I gave, though, sometimes the actor’s face needs to be in frame for it to work, especially if there’s interaction between characters during the scene.
I think there have been a couple instances of digital head replacement in recent years.
her brief topless scene the next season with the same body double for consistency.
Lol. I would hope most viewers aren’t that discerning.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
Having seen 300 I know that Lena Heady isn’t exactly as, shall we say, voluptuous as the double they went with, so I assume it was for consistency. If Heady had done the second scene herself, the sudden loss of a cup size or two might have been more distracting than you think. I dunno.
I do think the second nude scene was unnecessary, especially when they had to go through the trouble of getting the double back and forking over the cash to CGI Lena’s head on her body again. They could easily have just had her, I dunno, wearing a nightgown in that scene instead.
The Walk of Shame nudity was necessary though.
On nudity: Women are built like a nice sportscar, men are built like a Ford Pinto. Most people would rather see the sportscar. There’s also the fact that, generally, women like reading about nudity rather than seeing it, hence the massive success of Fifty Shades of Grey.
Every Which Way But Loose or Any Which Way You Can?
Discuss.
On nudity: Women are built like a nice sportscar, men are built like a Ford Pinto. Most people would rather see the sportscar.
Wow.
Yeah. Why should female nudity be treated differently?
It shouldn’t, although it’s important to note that typically that movement refers to women deciding for themselves to go shirtless, whereas in film/TV it’s often all males making those decisions (which is where the objectification issue can arise).
Last I heard, actors choose which roles they take.
Only the most powerful ones and much more on the male side. Very few women can afford to turn down a role, else they get blacklisted and never work again.
Every wonder why it took so long for women to speak out against Harvey Weinstein?
On nudity: Women are built like a nice sportscar, men are built like a Ford Pinto. Most people would rather see the sportscar.
Wow.
Someone’s never seen Chris Hemsworth.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
Someone’s never seen Chris Hemsworth.
Don’t forget all the other Chrises.
Every Which Way But Loose or Any Which Way You Can?
Discuss.
No.
Yeah. Why should female nudity be treated differently?
It shouldn’t, although it’s important to note that typically that movement refers to women deciding for themselves to go shirtless, whereas in film/TV it’s often all males making those decisions (which is where the objectification issue can arise).
Last I heard, actors choose which roles they take.
Only the most powerful ones and much more on the male side. Very few women can afford to turn down a role, else they get blacklisted and never work again.
Well if a nude scene is in a script and the actor doesn’t want to do a nude scene, then that’s the actor’s problem. Modeling and acting is pretty much an “objectification” business.
Every wonder why it took so long for women to speak out against Harvey Weinstein?
What part of my exception for when the actors are mistreated do you not understand? Also, Weinstein preyed on a lot of women who didn’t appear nude in the films that he produced.
The Person in Question
On nudity: Women are built like a nice sportscar, men are built like a Ford Pinto. Most people would rather see the sportscar. There’s also the fact that, generally, women like reading about nudity rather than seeing it, hence the massive success of Fifty Shades of Grey.
Where were you in '77?
On nudity: Women are built like a nice sportscar, men are built like a Ford Pinto. Most people would rather see the sportscar. There’s also the fact that, generally, women like reading about nudity rather than seeing it, hence the massive success of Fifty Shades of Grey.
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