I mean, it helps to know that mid to late-term abortions for nonmedical reasons are incredibly rare. I don’t know what to think for the few that do happen though.
The Person in Question
Agreed.
Okay, so what about what I said regarding sex-ed, birth control, and the welfare state?
I don’t care about birth control as I already alluded to. With sex-ed, I doubt any education beyond what is already in highschool health classes would even be benefical. And I don’t know what you want me to say about the welfare state.
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Okay, so what about what I said regarding sex-ed, birth control, and the welfare state?
I don’t care about birth control as I already alluded to.
I’m asking if you want free birth control and condoms for anyone that wants it.
With sex-ed, I doubt any education beyond what is already in highschool health classes would even be benefical.
Okay, so you’re wrong there. Countries with real comprehensive sex-ed (not fake, abstinence-only sex ed) from elementary-school onward have much lower abortion rates than in the U.S.
And I don’t know what you want me to say about the welfare state.
If you demand that all unwanted pregnancies be carried to term then you better be ready to endorse supporting all of those children that may be impoverished. I’ll go ahead and tell you a story that I’ve brought up here before because this guy’s childhood is a perfect refutation of the idea that this world is fair. A friend of mine that probably doesn’t like me anymore (but that’s besides the point) was a very abused and molested and uncared-for child. I obviously don’t know if he or his siblings were children of rape, but I do know that his father was a very violent and quite frankly evil man, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that were the case. Regardless, my friend’s mother had him and a few other kids and did her best to raise them but ultimately my friend ended up homeless as a child for a while before finally ending up in a safe home. Now the point of all that shit is, you can’t demand all life be brought into this world and claim that all life is precious and then not support and call for programs that make life somewhat less shitty for the children that you demand be born.
The Person in Question
mfm had a lot of good points there.
It always appalls me that pro-lifers typically do not support comprehensive sex-ed and availability of birth control. If they (and to a certain extent myself, not sure if I’d be defined as pro-life or pro-choice) really value a babies life, then wouldn’t it only make sense to want to prevent as many abortions as possible.
Okay, so what about what I said regarding sex-ed, birth control, and the welfare state?
I don’t care about birth control as I already alluded to.
I’m asking if you want free birth control and condoms for anyone that wants it.
I mean, I wouldn’t mind it. People have to buy medicine so I don’t see the problem with buying condoms.
With sex-ed, I doubt any education beyond what is already in highschool health classes would even be benefical.
Okay, so you’re wrong there. Countries with real comprehensive sex-ed (not fake, abstinence-only sex ed) from elementary-school onward have much lower abortion rates than in the U.S.
I stand corrected. If that’s the case I think there should be.
And I don’t know what you want me to say about the welfare state.
If you demand that all unwanted pregnancies be carried to term then you better be ready to endorse supporting all of those children that may be impoverished. I’ll go ahead and tell you a story that I’ve brought up here before because this guy’s childhood is a perfect refutation of the idea that this world is fair. A friend of mine that probably doesn’t like me anymore (but that’s besides the point) was a very abused and molested and uncared-for child. I obviously don’t know if he or his siblings were children of rape, but I do know that his father was a very violent and quite frankly evil man, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that were the case. Regardless, my friend’s mother had him and a few other kids and did her best to raise them but ultimately my friend ended up homeless as a child for a while before finally ending up in a safe home. Now the point of all that shit is, you can’t demand all life be brought into this world and claim that all life is precious and then not support and call for programs that make life somewhat less shitty for the children that you demand be born.
I guess yeah, I’m in favor.
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THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
isn’t it, with all due respect, an insane thing to defend though?
like, if you decide to worship x or y you’re forgiven? that’s not really freedom. that’s actually some middle age shit that the clergy used to say to manipulate and control the people.
and honestly, raping someone is a heck of a lot worse than not giving a five weeks old agglomeration of cells a life.
it’s also worth noting that most people that abort would have no way (or no desire) to give the child, had it been born, a good life and childhood and education. so yeah.
i must add that i’m not against religion and am in fact a catholic guy. i pray pretty much every day, and follow some of God’s “teachings”, but the idea of going to the church and listening to the priest and strictly following what is said in the bible or somethin doesn’t fly my way at all.
isn’t it, with all due respect, an insane thing to defend though?
like, if you decide to worship x or y you’re forgiven? that’s not really freedom. that’s actually some middle age shit that the clergy used to say to manipulate and control the people.
I can not explain more than to say that God desires to redeem His children. I can not describe what a relationship with God is like to one who thinks the whole enterprise is laughably ludicrous. To assume that it is license to commit remorseless tragedy with no consequence is, I think, rather ignorant. No offense.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
Murder is murder. Both can be redeemed, neither is ideal.
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
isn’t it, with all due respect, an insane thing to defend though?
like, if you decide to worship x or y you’re forgiven? that’s not really freedom. that’s actually some middle age shit that the clergy used to say to manipulate and control the people.
No offense.
non taken, i’m pretty sure i came across as pretty offensive too. i’m sorry, if that was the case.
the idea of going to the church and listening to the priest and strictly following what is said in the bible or something doesn’t fly my way at all.
It’s not about rules, though. And going to church is not a requirement. It’s about having a relationship with God, and growing that relationship through prayer (talking to Him), and fellowship (talking to each other). Sitting in a church service simply to warm a pew doesn’t do much in either regard. Church is not required, but fellowship is still very important. For myself, I wouldn’t get very much out of church if I didn’t also go to sunday school (my church calls it Life Group) to connect with my friends and have a short bible study in a small group.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
And I will continue to say so. You might want to get over it.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
You might want to get over it.
One wonders why you can not.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
Murder is murder.
If you think aborting a six week old fetus is in any way comparable to someone coming into your house at night and killing your family, raping the corpses, and burning the house to the ground…
Religion sure sounds swell. Maybe I should give it a closer look.
Both can be redeemed.
Ah yes, all is forgiven, just accept Jesus. Nothing you ever did matters anymore, the people whose lives you destroyed don’t matter, all that matters is that you’re sorry. Lovely.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
You might want to get over it.
One wonders why you can not.
My comments are about religion. Yours are about me.
Church is not required
I’m pretty sure the religions I’m thinking of disagree.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
You might want to get over it.
One wonders why you can not.
My comments are about religion. Yours are about me.
But you don’t believe in religion. You’re just bitching. If you don’t believe, you shouldn’t care. People make judgements and decisions, religion or not, that other people disagree with. Complaining endlessly about how their philosophy makes no sense at some point becomes not much more than trolling.
It’s like hanging out in the NFL thread just to complain at length about how American football is stupid.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Church is not required
I’m pretty sure the religions I’m thinking of disagree.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say church is required.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
You might want to get over it.
One wonders why you can not.
My comments are about religion. Yours are about me.
But you don’t believe in religion. You’re just bitching. If you don’t believe, you shouldn’t care. People make judgements and decisions, religion or not, that other people disagree with. Complaining endlessly about how their philosophy makes no sense at some point becomes not much more than trolling.
It’s a discussion forum. I’m discussing the things that bother me about religion, the things that I take personally about religion.
Report me already and then get over it while the mods decide if I’m trolling or not.
It’s like hanging out in the NFL thread just to complain at length about how American football is stupid.
American football doesn’t want me to be tortured endlessly after I die just because I don’t think Ben Wyatt is a quarterback.
Church is not required
I’m pretty sure the religions I’m thinking of disagree.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say church is required.
I said nothing about the Bible. You might want to tell religion that and see how far you get.
The attitude that it’s murder to abort a six-week-old fetus but a person who murdered a fully developed person can completely wipe the slate clean by accepting Jesus is revolting to me.
So you have said.
You might want to get over it.
One wonders why you can not.
My comments are about religion. Yours are about me.
But you don’t believe in religion. You’re just bitching. If you don’t believe, you shouldn’t care. People make judgements and decisions, religion or not, that other people disagree with. Complaining endlessly about how their philosophy makes no sense at some point becomes not much more than trolling.
It’s a discussion forum. I’m discussing the things that bother me about religion, the things that I take personally about religion.
But it’s your choice to take them personally. I would think indifference would be better.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.