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Wow Snook, really good job!
EDIT: Also great job on the crate poppasketti! At least on my phone it looks pretty seamless.
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excellent work. does anyone else think something needs to be done about the shadows on the stairs in the background?
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shhhhhh
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Snoke’s demise:
https://vimeo.com/263448791
password: fanedit
I like this! But however, this will remove the foreshadowing of Kylo’s saber spinning on his feet after Rey gets thrown by snoke. The spinning saber gave Kylo the idea of killing Snoke that way.
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Wow Snook, really good job!
EDIT: Also great job on the crate poppasketti! At least on my phone it looks pretty seamless.
Thanks, RogueLeader!
I know it’s a small fix, but I’ve been following these boards for years, and I’m just happy to be able to contribute something!
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Thanks very much; I’ll be sending you a PM shortly.
Hey Hal,
Here’s my first pass at stabilizing the crate.
https://vimeo.com/263673331
password: faneditI’ll scrutinize a bit more myself as I think there’s a couple small things I want to fix, but let me know if you see anything. I uploaded the prores file to vimeo, so if you like, you can download the file and slot it into your edit!
Works for me! Such a little thing, but I was watching like a hawk when I saw the movie for the second time. 😉
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Snoke’s demise:
https://vimeo.com/263448791
password: faneditI like this! But however, this will remove the foreshadowing of Kylo’s saber spinning on his feet after Rey gets thrown by snoke. The spinning saber gave Kylo the idea of killing Snoke that way.
I’m not sure I follow you.
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Snoke’s demise:
https://vimeo.com/263448791
password: faneditI like this! But however, this will remove the foreshadowing of Kylo’s saber spinning on his feet after Rey gets thrown by snoke. The spinning saber gave Kylo the idea of killing Snoke that way.
I’m not sure I follow you.
Yeah. Even with the change, you still get the moment of Kylo noticing the saber spinning in front of him.
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Honestly, Rey could be asking for Kylo to grab a cowl because she is just interested in what is south of his neck? lol
In all seriousness, good luck with the efforts on this! The Machete view order with your episode II and III and Adywan’s IV and V is definitive as far as I am concerned, and TFA edit you did really does enhance my enjoyment of it quite a bit. Looking forward to seeing where this next edit leads…
(And if I may make a shameless request to the community, please load up your HAL9000 DVD5 torrents! I am trying to make physical copies of everything. Cheers!)
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I seed from behind a VPN, but sometimes I turn it off. Keep the torrents running and you should get them in time. Or use the Google Drive links from Reddit.
And thanks for the kind words.
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Here’s the current state of the first caretaker removal scene:
https://vimeo.com/263917292
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JEDIT: Nevermind; I’ll let you guys give your opinions without hearing mine first.
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Visually that look pretty dang good, I do understand what you mean about the music.
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
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I’d like to get a discussion going about how to handle Canto Bight.
It seems like there are three options.
A) Keep the existing structure intact, but trim down the fathier stuff somewhat. This option introduces the fewest issues, but solves just as much less of the problems this stuff has.
B) Remove fathier sequence altogether. This would look like:
- Finn and Rose arrive on Canto Bight. Finn is infatuated with the place, until Rose spills her guts about her history with the FO and how the town houses war profiteers. (This will be trimmed just a little, removing the namedrop of ‘fathiers.’ Alternatively, Finn and Rose could immediately spot the master codebreaker upon entering the casino and be thrown in jail.)
- Finn and Rose are incarcerated, meet DJ, and we transition directly to the three of them in hyperspace making their deal.
- Later, their story proceeds as it does originally.
One slight problem is that transitioning to hyperspace heavily implies that we are viewing the same shuttle they left on, despite a brief establishing shot to the contrary that audiences wouldn’t pick up on. It might be slightly confusing when it is revealed that DJ stole the ship. I believe a FX shot of BB8 following the group as they leave the cell would be helpful. (Could even just be to show him leaving the shadows, similar to the shot where he watches the guards. Doesn’t even need to be added to an existing shot. Just something to indicate that he sees them leaving and is going to follow.)
C) Finn never leaves the rebels in the first place, and we are never formally introduced to Rose. This does not seem like a workable option to me, because the character of DJ will return in Episode 9, and I’d want to keep Finn’s involvement in the story. (I.e., it’s not an option to just keep Finn with the rebels all along and hardly show him. We do need to actually go to Canto Bight.)
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As much of a problem that it was, Canto Bight needs to stay as it is essential to Finn’s character arc in the film, and through the right trims and cuts I think it can be a lot better, like a quick mini-adventure. The only problem is that if you trim/cut the Fathiers too much, you will also need to remove the kids later on as the audience would have no exposure to them. If you keep the Fathiers but trim them, I think you should consider removing the kids. I think it hurts Finn and Rose’s characters if they free the slave animals and not the slave kids.
JEDIT: I think you should cut it so that they run into the casino to find the codebreaker and are arrested. They are in a hurry to find the codebreaker, they should not be taking their time.
The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.
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I cut to them immediately finding the codebreaker in my edit and that works well enough but the issue is that of how we transition to hyperspace as you said Hal. Perhaps showing them leaving the cell, BB-8 following, and then show the guards walk up to the empty sewer thingy. From there you cut to hyperspace which can imply that they escaped? Just spitballing ideas.
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Even if the fathier chase sequence is removed, I would still be in favor of keeping the slave kid epilogue so long as we get the brief introduction to them as Rose is lecturing Finn as he uses the binoculars.
Of course, if they are arrested immediately, that’d be gone.
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Even if the fathier chase sequence is removed, I would still be in favor of keeping the slave kid epilogue so long as we get the brief introduction to them as Rose is lecturing Finn as he uses the binoculars.
Of course, if they are arrested immediately, that’d be gone.
Which is why I also will be cutting the ending with the children. Those changes go in hand in hand like you said. Depends on how much you like the Broom boy ending.
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I think you can leave most of Canto Bight intact (with some small trims here and there), and even leave Rose and Finn in the stable discovering the Fathiers and the kids, however right after all of the creatures escape and rush out of the stable, and one of the kid whoops, cut to Finn and Rose running through the fields on the Fathier. You still keep most everything from the original cut in, just remove all of the excessive chase. This can also work geographically, since a stable and prison being next to an upper class casino doesn’t make much sense.
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I think you should go right to the code breaker and cut the Fathiers. We can assume DJ’s ship was a quicker escape plan.
If you remove Broom Boi you can flip the last two shots of the Falcon in hyperspace and end with the group shot on the Falcon as I suggested before. The shot is perfectly framed and would make for a great ending shot. I followed your criticism from before and removed the voices at the end of the clip as I just added in a stock sound effect of them originally. I think it works well but I don’t want to pressure you with it. I’m not good enough with the editing tools to do the whole movie myself, but I think it might be a good thing for your edit 😃
The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
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This does not seem like a workable option to me, because the character of DJ will return in Episode 9
Sounds like you know something we don’t, Hal 😉
My two cents: I cut out a lot of the egregious CG creatures in the casino, cut out the slave children completely and shortened the fathier chase by quite a bit. I also cut out Rose’s “Now it’s worth it” line.
That really works for me, but it all comes down to personal preference I suppose.
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I would sit down and watch the whole sequence two or three times, and take notes either in a word doc or on a piece paper. Write out what problems this sequence has exactly. That gives you the questions, “how can I tone down this or that element of the story?”. Find what moments add to those elements and cut them out. While I do think you could possibly cut the whole Canto Bight sequence time to half, I just think it would be hard for it not to feel like something has obviously been cut if you remove entire portions of the sequence. The more I’ve thought about it, the more I think you would have to bend over backwards just to make it work without the Fathier chase.
I thought natedug’s take on the Fathier chase was interesting, where he cut from the boy realizing what they want to do, to the cup of tea rattling on the table in the street. It would remove a huge chunk of the chase but still keep important elements of the story, (the slave children, how they ended up on a different ship, etc.). There might be an alternative way to trim throughout from beginning to end of the chase though as well. Like just show a portion of them running on the racetrack, then cut to the shot of them breaking through the window, etc. etc.)
There have been a lot of interesting ideas but I think you could provide an interesting take on the sequence.
Saying that, maybe you should try to cut the Fathier chase and see if you’re happy with it. Maybe you can make it work! But for me, sometimes you just have to try something and see if it works for you or not. And if doesn’t, at least you’ll know.
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Even if the fathier chase sequence is removed, I would still be in favor of keeping the slave kid epilogue so long as we get the brief introduction to them as Rose is lecturing Finn as he uses the binoculars.
Of course, if they are arrested immediately, that’d be gone.
You don’t need to change the ending (except for the rebellion ring maybe) even if you cut all the slave kid stuff during casino planet.
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Should Poe and Rey meeting for the first time be removed ? As far as I remember they both were only 1 meter away for the other during the “map sequence” of TFA ? This scene in TLJ was… odd… as if Johnson didn’t even bother to watch TFA to be sure or to ask the LFL continuity committee…
She may have stood near him, but did they interact? No.
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Things happen between movies Adywan. Poe is right next to the girl who helped save his BB unit along with his new best pal Finn but he would wait until the ending of the next movie to say “oh, thanks by the way. Rey, right ?” Doesn’t make any sense. Not a huge continuity issue, but still it felt weird and forced at the end of TLJ.
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Things happen between movies Adywan. Poe is right next to the girl who helped save his BB unit along with his new best pal Finn but he would wait until the ending of the next movie to say “oh, thanks by the way. Rey, right ?” Doesn’t make any sense. Not a huge continuity issue, but still it felt weird and forced at the end of TLJ.
In this specific case nothing could’ve happened between them between the movies. Maybe between scenes, but not necessarily. I see your point though.