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Back to the topic though, I really don’t understand why people are apologist or have blinders on for Trump. They’ve decided they support the man, and it therefore makes him infallible.
made a minor tweak. Some like him, some just support him. Others just hate politicians and ignore most of the day to day news.
Some just wanna see the world burn.
Many are trolls in love with their Troll-in-Chief.
I have no idea what Mrebo’s problem is though.
I think it’s hilarious that such simple and good advice needs to be presented to him like he’s 5 years old and he’s still unable to follow it. And at the end of the day, this doesn’t change anything. I don’t know what’s wrong with you humorless knuckleheads.
It would be funny if it were a tv show. It’s not, and it’s not.
Unfortunately Trump either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the consequences of anything he does, and it seems neither do you.
What do you think are the consequences of congratulating?
I know, nothing he says or does matters.
You’re deflecting. You pretend I’m saying things I’m not.
In the words of Willie Scott, “I’m right here!”
When it comes to these symbolic acts like congratulating Putin or Pence not standing for the NK Olympic team, you’re all
The blue elephant in the room.
What is happening?
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Back to the topic though, I really don’t understand why people are apologist or have blinders on for Trump. They’ve decided they like the man, and it therefore makes him infallible.
I’ve said it before, but it’s results. For some people, if he delivers the results they want, everything else can be forgiven. While certainly there are some that are so blinded that they actually think Trump is a wonderful human being, many more of them think he is fairly awful but tax cuts, or fairly awful but Gorsuch, or fairly awful but white power. Yes, I’m certain there are even a few Nazis who shake their heads and say “I know we’re all ultimately just about murdering people, but couldn’t we have come up with a better spokesperson?”
But to get to the point of “what does it take for people to see how bad he is?” the answer at some point is nothing. Trump’s shooting a guy on 5th Avenue comment was accurate. Some of his supporters would just say yeah he shot a guy but tax cuts, or he shot a guy but Gorsuch, or he shot a guy but white power. Some may peel off if there’s publicly-available ironclad indisputable direct physical evidence that Trump committed treason and then ate a baby afterward, but I doubt even in that case he’d go under 36% support.
Many are trolls in love with their Troll-in-Chief.
I have no idea what Mrebo’s problem is though.
I think it’s hilarious that such simple and good advice needs to be presented to him like he’s 5 years old and he’s still unable to follow it. And at the end of the day, this doesn’t change anything. I don’t know what’s wrong with you humorless knuckleheads.
It would be funny if it were a tv show. It’s not, and it’s not.
Unfortunately Trump either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the consequences of anything he does, and it seems neither do you.
What do you think are the consequences of congratulating?
I know, nothing he says or does matters.
You’re deflecting. You pretend I’m saying things I’m not.
Many are trolls in love with their Troll-in-Chief.
I have no idea what Mrebo’s problem is though.
I think it’s hilarious that such simple and good advice needs to be presented to him like he’s 5 years old and he’s still unable to follow it. And at the end of the day, this doesn’t change anything. I don’t know what’s wrong with you humorless knuckleheads.
It would be funny if it were a tv show. It’s not, and it’s not.
Unfortunately Trump either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the consequences of anything he does, and it seems neither do you.
What do you think are the consequences of congratulating?
I know, nothing he says or does matters.
But maybe the better people to ask that question to are the national security experts who warned him against doing it?
But to get to the point of “what does it take for people to see how bad he is?” the answer at some point is nothing. Trump’s shooting a guy on 5th Avenue comment was accurate. Some of his supporters would just say yeah he shot a guy but tax cuts, or he shot a guy but Gorsuch, or he shot a guy but white power.
You forgot yeah he shot a guy but Hillary was equally bad, which is something that is being said in this very thread.
Many are trolls in love with their Troll-in-Chief.
I have no idea what Mrebo’s problem is though.
I think it’s hilarious that such simple and good advice needs to be presented to him like he’s 5 years old and he’s still unable to follow it. And at the end of the day, this doesn’t change anything. I don’t know what’s wrong with you humorless knuckleheads.
It would be funny if it were a tv show. It’s not, and it’s not.
Unfortunately Trump either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the consequences of anything he does, and it seems neither do you.
What do you think are the consequences of congratulating?
Putin is running a dictatorial regime with sham elections propped up by massive national and international propaganda. What are the consequences of the U.S. president congratulating him on his successful running of a sham election?.. it feeds his propaganda machine and strengthens his legitimacy. Worse, Trump makes the effort to congratulate Putin, but can’t make the effort to do anything in response to a nerve gas attack by this same regime on our closest ally (England). Trump’s supporters haven’t come to grips with what a danger this dalliance he has with Putin is to the free world.
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Many are trolls in love with their Troll-in-Chief.
I have no idea what Mrebo’s problem is though.
I think it’s hilarious that such simple and good advice needs to be presented to him like he’s 5 years old and he’s still unable to follow it. And at the end of the day, this doesn’t change anything. I don’t know what’s wrong with you humorless knuckleheads.
It would be funny if it were a tv show. It’s not, and it’s not.
Unfortunately Trump either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the consequences of anything he does, and it seems neither do you.
What do you think are the consequences of congratulating?
I know, nothing he says or does matters.
You’re deflecting. You pretend I’m saying things I’m not.
In the words of Willie Scott, “I’m right here!”
When it comes to these symbolic acts like congratulating Putin or Pence not standing for the NK Olympic team, you’re all
No, if those were the only mistakes this admin made it wouldn’t be an issue. But we’re at point where we can expect basically every interaction with a foreign nation to go the wrong way, and that’s not exactly a good place to be at.
And Pence’s move made him a massive hypocrite (and a probable racist), but I never said we’re all going to die. You pretend I’m saying things I’m not.
we’re all going to die
What is happening?
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Suspiciouscoffee just went meta.
we’re all going to die
Wrong thread!
Another proud day for Republicans.
https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.
On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.
Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”
Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.
While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
Where are Jake and Elwood when we really need them?
Where were you in '77?
During one of our last gun control threadcraps, I mentioned that some of the numbers about guns in the US are hard to reconcile between sources, because while gun ownership rates are either holding steady or in a slight decline, the actual number of guns owned has risen pretty steeply. i.e. if you just take the number of guns and divide by the number of people, that will incorrectly tell you that everyone in the US has one or more guns, because the US currently has more guns than people. The truth is, more-or-less the same percentage of Americans have owned guns for decades, but the new trend is that some are now stockpiling them.
Scientific American now has an article about this gun-stockpiling phenomenon and an overview of the data/demographics behind it.
The short, broad-brush answer to the first part of that question is this: men, who on average possess almost twice the number of guns female owners do. But not all men. Some groups of men are much more avid gun consumers than others. The American citizen most likely to own a gun is a white male—but not just any white guy. According to a growing number of scientific studies, the kind of man who stockpiles weapons or applies for a concealed-carry license meets a very specific profile.
Where are Jake and Elwood when we really need them?
Ha, Illinois Nazis!
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But maybe the better people to ask that question to are the national security experts who warned him against doing it?
This is a good point.
Where are Jake and Elwood when we really need them?
Ha, Illinois Nazis!
I HATE Illinois Nazis!
https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.
On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.
Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”
Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.
While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
unbelievable. I hope he doesn’t have a chance in the general election. This is really sad.
https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.
On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.
Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”
Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.
While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
unbelievable. I hope he doesn’t have a chance in the general election.
He doesn’t.
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What?
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Trump?
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Donald Trump???
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Holy shit.
https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.
On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.
Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”
Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.
While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
unbelievable. I hope he doesn’t have a chance in the general election. This is really sad.
Optimist: He was the only option on the Republican primary ballot. 20,000 Republicans voting for a guy who is the only candidate for this particular office listed on the Republican primary ballot is not unbelievable. With no other options, I imagine many wouldn’t bother to learn much about him.
Pessimist: Now he’ll be the only candidate on the general ballot with an (R) next to his name. With no other candidates with an (R) next to their name, how many Republicans still wouldn’t bother to learn much about him?
Real Pessimist: How many Republicans would bother to learn much about him, and think he sounds pretty good?
Realist: We’re all fucked.
https://thinkprogress.org/20000-illinois-republicans-voted-for-nazi-7bbeeb7631fd/
The former head of the American Nazi Party ran for the Republican nomination of Congress in Illinois’ 3rd Congressional District. No Republican stepped up to oppose him.
On Tuesday, despite his vocal Holocaust denial, his anti-Semitic rhetoric, and his white supremacist views, 20,339 Illinois Republicans, according to preliminary totals, cast their ballots for Arthur Jones.
Jones’ Nazi-sympathies were not a secret going into election day. His campaign website features a slideshow of pictures of him speaking at white nationalist events. He is a perennial candidate who has previously run for U.S. House, Chicago alderman, and mayor of Chicago, and even mayor of Milwaukee. Chicago media extensively covered the race. The Anti-Defamation League warned voters of his record. The chairman of Illinois Republican Party even disavowed him, saying “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”
Still, a stunning portion of the GOP primary electorate opted to cast their ballot for Jones rather than nobody. This includes, according to unofficial totals as of Wednesday morning, 13,158 voters in suburban Cook County (more than 70 percent of 18,595 GOP primary ballots cast), 4,093 voters in Will County, 3,023 voters in the City of Chicago, and 65 voters in DuPage County.
While the National Republican Congressional Committee, the campaign arm of the House GOP, dismissed Jones last month as “a fringe candidate who has been doing this for over a decade with with no real connection to the GOP,” his campaign platform mirrors President Trump’s agenda. Jones’ campaign website promises to “put America first” with border protections, the elimination of “Sanctuary Cities”, no “amnesty for illegal aliens,” gun rights, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
unbelievable. I hope he doesn’t have a chance in the general election. This is really sad.
Optimist: He was the only option on the Republican primary ballot. 20,000 Republicans voting for a guy who is the only candidate for this particular office listed on the Republican primary ballot is not unbelievable. With no other options, I imagine many wouldn’t bother to learn much about him.
How many voting Republicans are there in this jurisdiction? How many Republicans voted in this election? Even if a nazi is the only person on the ballot, I still wouldn’t vote for him/her. I would cast a write-in vote. I doubt it was all that unknown that a nazi was on the ballot.
Pessimist: Now he’ll be the only candidate on the general ballot with an (R) next to his name. With no other candidates with an (R) next to their name, how many Republicans still wouldn’t bother to learn much about him?
Real Pessimist: How many Republicans would bother to learn much about him, and think he sounds pretty good?
This is one time where the Democrat should run all kinds of negative campaign ads. It needs to be gotten out there in that jurisdiction that they have nazi on the ballot.
This is one time where the Democrat should run all kinds of negative campaign ads. It needs to be gotten out there in that jurisdiction that they have nazi on the ballot.
The one time?