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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED ** — Page 74

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It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

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DominicCobb said:

It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

It is official cannon that that’s Rex now.
I personally would get a kick out of seeing the Ghost or any nod to rebels in ROTJ:R-but don’t expect it.

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exitzero said:

DominicCobb said:

It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

It is official cannon that that’s Rex now.
I personally would get a kick out of seeing the Ghost or any nod to rebels in ROTJ:R-but don’t expect it.

Maybe we should all tweet-bomb Temuera Morrison and convince him to appear as Rex in Ady’s Endor pick-up shots haha.

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exitzero said:

DominicCobb said:

It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

It is official cannon that that’s Rex now.

It’s not.

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DominicCobb said:

exitzero said:

DominicCobb said:

It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

It is official cannon that that’s Rex now.

It’s not.

What we personally deem as canon aside, Pablo Hidalgo did confirm that as official canon.

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Humby said:

DominicCobb said:

exitzero said:

DominicCobb said:

It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

It is official cannon that that’s Rex now.

It’s not.

What we personally deem as canon aside, Pablo Hidalgo did confirm that as official canon.

Sure about that?

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/971414871337189376?s=20

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DominicCobb said:

Humby said:

DominicCobb said:

exitzero said:

DominicCobb said:

It wasn’t retconned, it’s pretty ambiguous. There wouldn’t even be anything for ady to do about that.

the only real Rebels suggestion should be to put the Ghost into the space battle.

It is official cannon that that’s Rex now.

It’s not.

What we personally deem as canon aside, Pablo Hidalgo did confirm that as official canon.

Sure about that?

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/971414871337189376?s=20

Ok fine, I double checked the celebration 2017 Filoni/Hidalgo interview, and they don’t confirm it but they heavily imply it. And by look of Rex in the finale, it’s pretty much as good as canon.

Personally, I don’t care either way. I enjoy my Star Wars in different mediums, and I have no problem enjoying them independently or as part of a whole. We all have our own tastes and are capable of enjoying things for different reasons.

Never the less, I still think we should nerd-pressure Temuerra Morrison into appearing in Ady’s Endor shoot for RotJ:R haha

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sonofjones said:

I’m not sure if anyone’s already suggested this (I haven’t exactly been reading this forum regularly), but here’s an idea I have: Anakin’s death feels kind of out of place in the tail end of the Battle of Endor. It’s an emotional, quiet scene, but as soon as it’s done we jump right back into high paced excitement and heroic triumph. The two tones clash and it always felt a bit jarring to me.

So what if instead it were made so Anakin died on the shuttle after it had already escaped the Death Star? Then we transition back to Han and Leia on Endor and any celebration there that might happen, then have the ending Adywan described (Luke burning his father’s body alone as the Jedi ghosts look on).

I can see how you may feel that way, never had an issue with it myself though and I think it’s because you see this kind of thing happening in normal life anyway - small sad moments that mean a lot to the individual but they don’t halt the entire world which could be rejoicing something amazing at that very same moment. I think there’s a number of other things to also consider:

  • the urgency of the scene (to get off the DS before it explodes) helps in understanding why it doesn’t linger and go on for to long.

  • the rest of the galaxy doesn’t know and is rightfully celebrating the downfall of the Empire (or if you watch the ST, a minor set back at that…)

  • they can’t focus too much on the sadness of Luke losing his father in face of the fact he was the biggest and evilest villain in the galaxy that has killed untold number of people (billions if just going by his involvement with destroying Alderan) and the story has been building up to his defeat over 3 movies which the audience are supposed to cheer at along with the galaxy, while also feeling sad for Luke.

I find also that much like with Alderan’s destruction and probably other examples throughout the movies, they don’t deliver all the emotion of one event in one scene. They space it out a bit to give you time to process what has happened and then later on hit you harder with the emotional side of things. For Alderan, it was Obiwan later falling into a chair on the Falcon and relaying his sense of horror and loss of what he was suddenly feeling through the force. For Vader/Anakin’s death, it is the funeral pyre scene as Luke lights it and the music swells, seriously one of the scenes that always makes the eyes get a bit misty (got the chills watching it again just now on Youtube) which then pans up to show the celebrations still going on elsewhere which we are then returned to and see all the main characters joyfully reuniting, Luke somewhat bitter-sweetly. This is in order to bring the audience themselves back into a feeling of jubilance and positivity to end the movie on.

All that aside, while the idea makes sense to an extent it is also changing the story and removing a pretty important if not pivotal scene from the movie. Unless you meant to keep it and make it seem somehow they are on Endor as Luke removes Vader’s helmet on the shuttle’s rear ramp? I’m hoping Ady doesn’t do that or his idea for ending on the funeral pyre with the force ghosts looking on, it just changes to much of the ending that I’ve always loved. Plus I don’t understand how having the force ghosts standing there smiling at each other is appropriate for this idea - turn those “non-frowns” upside down? 😛

Val

Edit: Below is the clip I refer to and to explain my feelings on the ending of ROTJ - Lucas swapping in Hayden’s head and changing the music from Yub Nub is one of the, if not THE changes to the OT that I hated the most and changed forever the way I viewed Lucas, as it fucked with an ending I fondly remembered, had loved watching for many years and never thought anything was wrong with it or the way it left me feeling at the culmination of 3 movies telling a saga that I grew up with.

https://youtu.be/bBMqJ9mQKpI

Anyway - move along, move along…

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You really want to see the ghost in return of the Jedi? Well, pause this frame:

Be happy.

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Telion said:

You really want to see the ghost in return of the Jedi? Well, pause this frame:

Be happy.

I’m down for a Rogue One-esque cameo during the Battle of Endor and I actually wouldn’t mind Ady hiring an extra dressed up as Hera for the Home One briefing. Now if only Dodonna and Riekkan could have been present in some capacity. Lucas really dropped the ball there.

“Did you know, the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?! Look it up.”

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FVDnz said:

I’m down for a Rogue One-esque cameo during the Battle of Endor and I actually wouldn’t mind Ady hiring an extra dressed up as Hera for the Home One briefing. Now if only Dodonna and Riekkan could have been present in some capacity. Lucas really dropped the ball there.

Nah, its not needed. Just remember that this little speck is the ghost.

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Remember how the Legends EU was supposed to be “what’s happening just the right of camera”? Just imagine that all the things you want to happen during the movies are happening just to the side there. 😉

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doubleofive said:

Remember how the Legends EU was supposed to be “what’s happening just the right of camera”? Just imagine that all the things you want to happen during the movies are happening just to the side there. 😉

Haha, like Tag and Bink. They should be added to special features. Just have Ady and someone else cameo, then play out a couple of scenes form the comic. That would make an awesome gag real.

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Does adywan have phone internet to keep informed about when he’ll get his new internet?

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Not sure if anyone’s brought this up, here’s some ideas I’ve found other places I’d like to see Adywan do.

  1. Show Endor Prime, similar to here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0dGxCrwZzI

  2. Show Sullust when the Rebel Fleet gathers like here: https://doubleofive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/sullust.jpg and here: https://doubleofive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/briefingplanetarium2.jpg

  3. Show waterfalls near the Shield Generator to add some variety to the landscape of Endor: https://doubleofive.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/endor-waterfall-base.jpg

Also, since this seems to be a divisive topic, I wandered if anyone’s heard/read Adywan’s thoughts on rearranging the events of Jabba’s palace (following something similar to Spence’s ROTJ edit where Leia tries to sneak in to save Han, fails, and Luke goes afterwards to save everyone). I know he wants to keep it so the first time we see Luke in person is when he enters Jabba’s palace (which is the right call in my opinon), but I think it could still be accomplished even while keeping that.

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That those were hosted on my personal WordPress specifically because they were suggested to Adywan? Yes.

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