Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 586

35% chance of winning is 65% chance of losing.

Do you honestly want her to run? To win? Why do you care about her running? I didn’t even know you liked Oprah.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

To say she can’t possibly win is silly. Anyone with 100% name recognition and tons of money has the possibility to win. I wouldn’t think she’s the favorite but of course she’d have a chance.

On 538’s podcast yesterday they reranked their likely Dem nominees for 2020 based on this Orpah “news.” Nate Silver placed her 5th, ahead of Doug Jones and Bernie Sanders.

Sorry but I trust Nate Silver more than you.

5th likeliest is not the same as winning.

Well yeah Ric, but 5th likeliest is also not the same as 5th place. Irrelevant point.

My point is Oprah running is irrelevant. It’s inconsequential. Just something new for the media to talk about.

You think she’d have no chance at all. You’re wrong.

I am allowed to think that. I can be binary about her chances if I so choose.

And it is not your job to refute me for saying so. Why don’t you try being nice around here to people who disagree with you for a change.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

35% chance of winning is 65% chance of losing.

Do you honestly want her to run? To win? Why do you care about her running? I didn’t even know you liked Oprah.

Oh my god.

You clearly don’t understand polling or statistics or probability,

I understand. I understand that making a binary statement, like “she has no chance”, is a valid statement in general conversation. I’m not posting statistics. I’m just talking. I don’t think she has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.

and my correcting you on them has nothing to do with what I want or care about.

It has more to do with rudely arguing with and invalidating someone on the internet?

So you’re not trusting polls because they predicted only a 30% chance for Trump’s victory, yet you’re saying a 35% chance for Oprah in the polls is equivalent to no chance at all?

TV’s Frink said:

Yes, you are allowed to be wrong. Enjoy.

Grow up.

Frank your Majesty said:

So you’re not trusting polls because they predicted only a 30% chance for Trump’s victory, yet you’re saying a 35% chance for Oprah in the polls is equivalent to no chance at all?

I’m saying this talk about her is just talk. It’s too early to know anything for sure at this point, so polling is bound to be wildly inaccurate.

I don’t think talking about Oprah’s chances is barely even worth discussing, because I don’t see how she could possibly be carried on more than her celebrity. Not to mention the myriad of factors working against her.

TV’s Frink said:

Frank your Majesty said:

So you’re not trusting polls because they predicted only a 30% chance for Trump’s victory, yet you’re saying a 35% chance for Oprah in the polls is equivalent to no chance at all?

He takes a Trumpian view of statistics, which is to only believe the ones that support his narrative. The rest are alternative factual polls.

Would you stop attacking me, please.

TV’s Frink said:

I’m not attacking you, I’m attacking your position. Which is wrong. But ok.

I said STOP ATTACKING ME.

Invalidating peoples’ opinions won’t make you any friends. Stop treating me like this. Stop attacking me and telling me I’m wrong. Just stop. You’re being rude and childish.

And don’t you dare condescend to me just because I use a media server or watch cartoons.

Warbler said:

I’m just curious, other than not being Trump, what qualifications does Oprah have for being President?

You need qualifications anymore? Well assuming you still do…

She makes a well thought out political/social speech, with detail, content, reasoned conclusions and persuasive arguments… that fired people up. That’s a pretty damned important skill for a politician (or so we used to think).

DominicCobb said:

What is the point of debating if you can’t tell people they’re wrong?

It’s the attitude. He’s not just telling me I’m wrong. He’s making me to be an idiot. As though his opinion is somehow superior to mine. As though my position in feeling that Oprah has no chance is stupid because her chance is not technically zero percent.

Debate can occur without invalidation and condescension.

chyron8472 said:

Do you honestly want her to run? To win? Why do you care about her running? I didn’t even know you liked Oprah.

Good grief…

JEDIT- Should’a waited till I’d read the whole page. Then I could’ve made my post in all caps.

TV’s Frink said:

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

Do you honestly want her to run? To win? Why do you care about her running? I didn’t even know you liked Oprah.

Good grief…

JEDIT- Should’a waited till I’d read the whole page. Then I could’ve made my post in all caps.

But I don’t even know if I like Oprah…I think I do, I guess I never gave it much thought. I do like her bees gif though.

These are my feelings toward Oprah as well.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’m not attacking you, I’m attacking your position. Which is wrong. But ok.

I said STOP ATTACKING ME.

Invalidating peoples’ opinions won’t make you any friends. Stop treating me like this. Stop attacking me and telling me I’m wrong. Just stop. You’re being rude and childish.

And don’t you dare condescend to me just because I use a media server or watch cartoons.

How am I attacking you?

You are being condescending, invalidating and rude.

The MLP and Plex stuff is making a point.

It makes the point that you think I’m an idiot, because past events show you don’t think spending hours configuring Plex, or talking to people on the Plex forums about using Plex, is a worthwhile use of anyone’s time; and you think I’m creepy for enjoying watching a particular cartoon aimed at my daughter, especially since you don’t enjoy it. You think your opinion is better than mine.

You don’t know politics, polling, or probability very well, as evidenced by your posts.

You can let me have my opinion that Oprah doesn’t stand a chance without attacking me. You don’t have to turn it into a debate over statistics. You don’t have to say my opinion takes a Trumpian view or accuse me of only being willing to talk to an echo chamber. You can be polite to people on these forums.