The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit Ideas thread — Page 11

Kylo’s “What girl?” can stay I think, but yeah, the rest need to go.

Yeah I guess you’re, besides removing that line could be difficult in this scene.

Collipso said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

LordStarkiller said:

• Move the throne room sequence to after The Resistance lands on Crait.

I think that’s a great idea, as that whole scene felt like the climax, even though the movie still had a half-hour left. That said, you’d have to move Holdo’s sacrifice, and come skip Phasma’s scenes entirely to allow Finn and Rose to escape before being caught, as they only survived due to Holdo’s sacrifice. This also would result in cutting out DJ’s betrayal, but if you cut out Canto Blight, you could out his character entirely.

But didn’t Holdo’s sacrifice pretty much destroyed Snoke’s ship? So wouldn’t it be weird if the throne room scene occurred with half of the ship blown up and he’s just there doing nothing and so are Ren and Rey?

Did you even read my post? I said that moving the throne room scene would require moving Holdo’s sacrifice as well, so that half the ship isn’t blown up yet.

MalàStrana said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I just realized that the (non-) reveal of Rey’s parents begs for more edits to TFA. The one that sticks out to me is Rey and BB-8’s exchange:

“Classified? Me too, big secret.”

Yeah, that line is insulting now. I’m sure other “hints” need to be cut back now too, I’d have to rewatch TFA again though.

I think maybe cut when Han is about to tell Maz who’s the girl and the movie abruptly cuts “not to reveal the mystery”.

This might be a good idea. It probably was the most obvious nod to her being someone special in the Force Awakens.

I agree, there is a need now to cut the following mentions in TFA:

• Kylo’s “What girl ?”
• Maz’s “Who’s the girl ?”
• Kylo’s “The girl I’ve heard so much about” (remove audio only, no need to edit the video. This sentence was already silly before TLJ got released)

Literally none of these need to be cut.

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I just realized that the (non-) reveal of Rey’s parents begs for more edits to TFA. The one that sticks out to me is Rey and BB-8’s exchange:

“Classified? Me too, big secret.”

Yeah, that line is insulting now. I’m sure other “hints” need to be cut back now too, I’d have to rewatch TFA again though.

I think maybe cut when Han is about to tell Maz who’s the girl and the movie abruptly cuts “not to reveal the mystery”.

This might be a good idea. It probably was the most obvious nod to her being someone special in the Force Awakens.

I agree, there is a need now to cut the following mentions in TFA:

• Kylo’s “What girl ?”
• Maz’s “Who’s the girl ?”
• Kylo’s “The girl I’ve heard so much about” (remove audio only, no need to edit the video. This sentence was already silly before TLJ got released)

Literally none of these need to be cut.

You literally don’t want to cut anything from TFA and TLJ, so you’re not the best advisor about that 😉

EyeShotFirst said:

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I just realized that the (non-) reveal of Rey’s parents begs for more edits to TFA. The one that sticks out to me is Rey and BB-8’s exchange:

“Classified? Me too, big secret.”

Yeah, that line is insulting now. I’m sure other “hints” need to be cut back now too, I’d have to rewatch TFA again though.

I think maybe cut when Han is about to tell Maz who’s the girl and the movie abruptly cuts “not to reveal the mystery”.

This might be a good idea. It probably was the most obvious nod to her being someone special in the Force Awakens.

I agree, there is a need now to cut the following mentions in TFA:

• Kylo’s “What girl ?”
• Maz’s “Who’s the girl ?”
• Kylo’s “The girl I’ve heard so much about” (remove audio only, no need to edit the video. This sentence was already silly before TLJ got released)

Literally none of these need to be cut.

I agree. I think we’re getting at a point where we’re too busy trying to see what we can cut, instead of trying to benefit the story. None of those lines negate or contradict what we learn. Of course they’d talk about her, she’s making a big splash. Nobody knew who the hell that blonde farmboy was until he blew up the death star.

Exactly. These just happen to be the lines that everyone was reading into when they were making their big theories.

Even Kylo Ren’s line from the novelization - “It i* you” - still works. She’s the awakening in the force that he felt.

People don’t seem to realize that JJ had the same reveal in mind when he made TFA.

MalàStrana said:

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I just realized that the (non-) reveal of Rey’s parents begs for more edits to TFA. The one that sticks out to me is Rey and BB-8’s exchange:

“Classified? Me too, big secret.”

Yeah, that line is insulting now. I’m sure other “hints” need to be cut back now too, I’d have to rewatch TFA again though.

I think maybe cut when Han is about to tell Maz who’s the girl and the movie abruptly cuts “not to reveal the mystery”.

This might be a good idea. It probably was the most obvious nod to her being someone special in the Force Awakens.

I agree, there is a need now to cut the following mentions in TFA:

• Kylo’s “What girl ?”
• Maz’s “Who’s the girl ?”
• Kylo’s “The girl I’ve heard so much about” (remove audio only, no need to edit the video. This sentence was already silly before TLJ got released)

Literally none of these need to be cut.

You literally don’t want to cut anything from TFA and TLJ, so you’re not the best advisor about that 😉

Want/need are two different things.

(and besides, yes, there are things I would cut from both films)

The BIG twist was finding out she’s just some girl that came from no one noteworthy.

I saw that one coming. For me, the real twist was Snoke dying.

Reading this thread makes me realize why I greatly curtailed my participation in famdoms years ago.

Finally just got to see TLJ a couple days ago (yay kids!) and I think I’d definitely like to see a “light” edit of it. I think just a bit of editing to remove the “humor” that doesn’t make sense in-universe and breaks my “suspension of disbelief” would make me enjoy the movie immensely more. Skimming through I see mention of some of them already, such as:

• Poe/Hux “on hold” at the beginning. Maybe just have him say he has a message from Princess Leia, his boost gauge hits 100%, and he goes. Skip the whole back and forth “phone conversation” that was awkward as hell.
• Luke getting the stupid look on his face and tossing the light saber that Rey brought to him over his shoulder. Such a crappy dismissal of the whole journey from TFA. Maybe just cut to a shot of it on the ground like he dropped it. Still powerful message of him discarding it but not so campy/stupid.
• Luke getting his green milk. Just ax it.
• Rey “reaching out”. Actually this I didn’t mind as much though maybe tone down the campiness of it a bit if possible. Hard to remember exactly how this went only seeing it once.
• After Rey cuts the rock in half and it tumbles down the hill. I thought that bit of light humor was fine and could be left at that. Then they had to have it smashing the caretakers cart and them looking annoyed. It felt like something out of a dumb sitcom. I expected a laughtrack to start up. Just get rid of the cart being smashed.
• In fact, the caretakers randomly showed up out of nowhere (after quite a lot of scenes where we were led to believe they were alone on the island), for no reason seemingly other than to be annoyed at Rey’s “antics”. I think they could be completely cut out as they are only in a couple scenes anyways.
• Luke brushing his shoulder off after the bombardment. Just drop it, I think the point of the scene gets across without the little extra “joke”.

Probably a few more, but those I remember off the top of my head after just seeing it once.

It will be interesting to see some of the bigger edits as well!

I’ve always been intrigued by the concept of fan edits and this is the first film that I feel like truly needs one to not be terrible. Sorry in advance for a long post, but there is just so much to change. Here are some of my ideas that I will try execute, feel free to incorporate in your edits, or discuss:

-Humor: As others have already stated, is way overdone. There are way too many jokes. It’s not even so much that they aren’t funny as they are poorly timed and take away from any emotional tension being built. Cut the Poe/Hux back and forth or shorten it a bit. Cut Luke brushing off his shoulder (one of the not-so-terrible jokes, but do we really need one after the extremely badass survival of the laser barrage?). Cut “Chrome Dome”. Cut Hux’s “do you think we got him”. Cut the lightsaber bonking Rey on the rebound. Cut Finn and Rose telling DJ they do not need his help.

-Space Leia: I think its impossible to “kill” Leia here because she’s important to the rest of the plot, but this scene needs to be fixed. Show Leia closing her eyes and the bridge exploding, but cut before she’s sucked out of the ship, and right to Poe and Co. sprinting downstairs and seeing her hand on the window. It seems more reasonable that she could force shield herself from an explosion and not suffer too serious of injuries compared to being exploded AND flying through a vacuum.

-Casino: I actually like the world-building here, but it is way overdone. Cut some scenes of aliens, cut everything that happens on the balcony, cut all the fathiers (sp??). I like the idea somebody else in this thread mentioned (sorry, I’m new to the site, so feel free to take credit) of flipping the image when Rose and Finn walk out of the jail cell to imply that they follow DJ. Next scene, they are on the ship returning to Poe and Co. This also cuts the run-time down significantly.

-Broom Boy: Cut right when his broom looks like a lightsaber and he’s staring off into space. No need to show that campy shot of his cereal box ring (which won’t even make sense if we cut the fathier sequence earlier in the film).

The things I am having the most difficult time coming up with fixes for:

-Captain Phasma Fight: If it isn’t cut entirely, how is it possible to not make her seem completely useless?

-Rose Stopping Finn: Just so campy and it makes no sense how they would get back into the cave afterwards.

-Holdo: Is there a more bland character in any movie ever? I’d rather have Jar Jar yell “Weesa inna big doodoo now” then have to sit through another one of her boring sentences.

I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this question, but how do you get the materials to make an edit? Wait for the DVD to come out and rip the file? Are there ways to separate the video from the audio (because I think a rescoring could make the movie that much more intense)?

darthrush said:

After seeing it for a second time, I am set on the fact that I will be doing a pretty comprehensive edit of this. The stuff I like in this film, hits on ALL cylinders for me personally. But the Canto Bight stuff just made me so angry this time around and the runtime of the movie did wear on me. What the Last Jedi needs is a tight and focused edit.

My full idea for the ENTIRE finn/rose subplot is the following:

1. Finn says that they surely cannot get past the shield. Poe raises his head as if he has an idea. We get the Maz scene. I really don’t have any problem with this scene like others. Maz is shown to always be caught up in something. It further connects both films and we get a great joke for me where she kind of gets sexual and just makes everyone uncomfortable. This stays for logic sense and for my appreciation of it.
2. Then we have our first scene of Canto Bight. I would cut down as many weird shots of aliens, champagne, and jokes as possible. Sadly, the public property joke has to stay since that’s the reason they get put in a cell. I also would cut the entire part where Rose talks about the fathiers. Overall, just making this scene as quick as possible.
3. Once they’re in the cell, cut the joke about not needing DJ’s help. Like RogueLeader suggested, we cut from DJ walking out the cell and them following, to the ship leaving. You would flip the shot of Finn and Rose leaving the cell to show that they went the same direction and axe her line of “This way” so it feels less like they went on some detour and rather that they followed him. This would get rid of the entire fathier chase sequence.
4. We next see them on their way back. This scene stays intact.
5. After this basically everything would be the same except cutting the ironing joke and cutting BB-8 in the ATST. Also I would cut them riding on top of the ATST with BB-8 and after Finn defeats Phasma, it would cut to their ship escaping the burning hangar bay.

Hopefully this would make for a much shorter subplot. If there are any ideas to make an even more radically cut down version of this that sacrifices less screen time then I would love to hear it out. Anything to mitigate this part of the film.

I think it can be cut down even more significantly.

– Cut Maz, cut all of the casino. Make it so Poe sends Finn and Rose off, continue with the Poe subplot, where he asks what’s going on, the next time we see Finn and Rose is on the stolen ship. “We got A codebreaker, not THE codebreaker”. I don’t remember if the scene where DJ steals from the ship is before or after that, but if it is, rearrange it so the conversation with Poe comes first.
– Show enough of the infiltration of the ship to get the gist, but cut Phasma entirely. She’s pointless. Show DJ’s betrayal “You’re wrong!” “…Maybe.” (I love that exchange). Cut everything after that, the next time we see them, they’re in the planet’s atmosphere on the ship.

I honestly don’t think you miss much.

darthrush said:

Handman said:

darthrush said:

After seeing it for a second time, I am set on the fact that I will be doing a pretty comprehensive edit of this. The stuff I like in this film, hits on ALL cylinders for me personally. But the Canto Bight stuff just made me so angry this time around and the runtime of the movie did wear on me. What the Last Jedi needs is a tight and focused edit.

My full idea for the ENTIRE finn/rose subplot is the following:

1. Finn says that they surely cannot get past the shield. Poe raises his head as if he has an idea. We get the Maz scene. I really don’t have any problem with this scene like others. Maz is shown to always be caught up in something. It further connects both films and we get a great joke for me where she kind of gets sexual and just makes everyone uncomfortable. This stays for logic sense and for my appreciation of it.
2. Then we have our first scene of Canto Bight. I would cut down as many weird shots of aliens, champagne, and jokes as possible. Sadly, the public property joke has to stay since that’s the reason they get put in a cell. I also would cut the entire part where Rose talks about the fathiers. Overall, just making this scene as quick as possible.
3. Once they’re in the cell, cut the joke about not needing DJ’s help. Like RogueLeader suggested, we cut from DJ walking out the cell and them following, to the ship leaving. You would flip the shot of Finn and Rose leaving the cell to show that they went the same direction and axe her line of “This way” so it feels less like they went on some detour and rather that they followed him. This would get rid of the entire fathier chase sequence.
4. We next see them on their way back. This scene stays intact.
5. After this basically everything would be the same except cutting the ironing joke and cutting BB-8 in the ATST. Also I would cut them riding on top of the ATST with BB-8 and after Finn defeats Phasma, it would cut to their ship escaping the burning hangar bay.

Hopefully this would make for a much shorter subplot. If there are any ideas to make an even more radically cut down version of this that sacrifices less screen time then I would love to hear it out. Anything to mitigate this part of the film.

I think it can be cut down even more significantly.

– Cut Maz, cut all of the casino. Make it so Poe sends Finn and Rose off, continue with the Poe subplot, where he asks what’s going on, the next time we see Finn and Rose is on the stolen ship. “We got A codebreaker, not THE codebreaker”. I don’t remember if the scene where DJ steals from the ship is before or after that, but if it is, rearrange it so the conversation with Poe comes first.
– Show enough of the infiltration of the ship to get the gist, but cut Phasma entirely. She’s pointless. Show DJ’s betrayal “You’re wrong!” “…Maybe.” (I love that exchange). Cut everything after that, the next time we see them, they’re in the planet’s atmosphere on the ship.

I honestly don’t think you miss much.

I actually like this idea except you still would need a trimmed down version of the Maz scene. She would say they need to find a codebreaker, she makes her “he can do everything” joke, and then you cut all of the stuff about the rose lapel or whatever about him on a high card table. This makes it more of a general “find the codebreaker” rather than all of this stuff about a casino.

I’m glad you like it! I’d need to rewatch that specific scene again, but I’m sure there’s a way to show Poe, Finn, and Rose arrive to the same conclusion without Maz at all.

And I kind of like the Phasma fight so I maybe would keep that. I consider it somewhat important for Finn to quite literally defeat his past.

He did that in TFA, though, when he shoved her into a garbage chute. It can be inferred she died on SKB. I don’t think her appearance does anything but further show her being useless and stupid, like Boba Fett in ROTJ.

I’m very tempted to create my own edit of the film come its home video release.

What I also found weird about TLJ is the fact that so little has been made out of Luke’s lightsaber. It was - quite literally - a throwaway item, wheras in TFA Maz even made a big secret out of how she got it. A question which probably won’t get answered either (unless JJA decides to fix as much as possible of what RJ messed up).

Why not stitch together the two scenes before and after they call Maz into one? I wish I had the script, but there should be enough there to show they need a specific codebreaker, and if you cut canto bight entirely, you don’t need to explain why they need to go there.

Finn: "No one can get in there, they scramble the shields code every hour."
Poe: “I think I know someone.”

Cut to Finn and Rose leaving on the shuttle. That’s all you need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV4wSdjNYp0 We need the guy who runs this channel to do VFX for fan edits.