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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 160

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I haven’t watched TFA in a while. I think when I do rewatch it soon, my opinion of it will turn out lesser than I had it before.

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I’ve seen TFA twice. My chances of watching it a third time are about as great as my chances of watching Krull a third time.

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yhwx said:

I haven’t watched TFA in a while. I think when I do rewatch it soon, my opinion of it will turn out lesser than I had it before.

It will. TFA diminishes like a fart in the wind upon subsequent viewings.

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The Starkiller plan scene is easily the worst in the film, but even then it’s still fun in a “don’t take this too seriously” kind of way.

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DominicCobb said:

The Starkiller plan scene is easily the worst in the film, but even then it’s still fun in a “don’t take this too seriously” kind of way.

i agree.

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DominicCobb said:

The Starkiller plan scene is easily the worst in the film, but even then it’s still fun in a “don’t take this too seriously” kind of way.

What do you mean?

Random Dude: A weapon of this size must have some kind of thermal oscillator

Janitor: It does. (instantly points to a specific place in a complex holographic model) right here!

Oh, right.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

The Starkiller plan scene is easily the worst in the film, but even then it’s still fun in a “don’t take this too seriously” kind of way.

What do you mean?

Random Dude: A weapon of this size must have some kind of thermal oscillator

Janitor: It does. (instantly points to a specific place in a complex holographic model) right here!

Oh, right.

Am I the only one who assumed that Finn working sanitation meant that he was stationed in the “sanitation unit” as patrol/guard, not an actual janitor? And considering these guys are raised from birth, they are probably educated to some degree in engineering.

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Humby said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

The Starkiller plan scene is easily the worst in the film, but even then it’s still fun in a “don’t take this too seriously” kind of way.

What do you mean?

Random Dude: A weapon of this size must have some kind of thermal oscillator

Janitor: It does. (instantly points to a specific place in a complex holographic model) right here!

Oh, right.

Am I the only one who assumed that Finn working sanitation meant that he was stationed in the “sanitation unit” as patrol/guard, not an actual janitor?

Yes

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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I assumed it was just his turn to be on sanitation duty while he was deployed there, not that it was his only job. If all he ever was was a janitor, then why the fuck would he have been assigned to the assault squad on Jakku?

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ChainsawAsh said:

If all he ever was was a janitor, then why the fuck would he have been assigned to the assault squad on Jakku?

This.

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Jim Smith said:

yhwx said:

I haven’t watched TFA in a while. I think when I do rewatch it soon, my opinion of it will turn out lesser than I had it before.

It will. TFA diminishes like a fart in the wind upon subsequent viewings.

Nah that’s Rogue One.

Not enough people read the EU.

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Mind you, Space Janitors can be awesome heroes too. 😉

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Where were you in '77?

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Humby said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

The Starkiller plan scene is easily the worst in the film, but even then it’s still fun in a “don’t take this too seriously” kind of way.

What do you mean?

Random Dude: A weapon of this size must have some kind of thermal oscillator

Janitor: It does. (instantly points to a specific place in a complex holographic model) right here!

Oh, right.

Am I the only one who assumed that Finn working sanitation meant that he was stationed in the “sanitation unit” as patrol/guard, not an actual janitor? And considering these guys are raised from birth, they are probably educated to some degree in engineering.

No you’re not.

Am I the only one who actually thinks TFA has gotten better? I rewatched over the weekend after about an 18 month hiatus.

Loved it.

When Rey gets that saber … chills man, chills.

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I’ve been doing one a week leading up to TLJ (watched ESB last night) and I find myself really looking forward to watching TFA again in two weeks.

Gonna have to flip a coin to decide whether to watch the theatrical or HAL’s Restructured V1 when I get to it though. (But if Restructured V2 is out by then, it’ll definitely be that.)

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

Jim Smith said:

yhwx said:

I haven’t watched TFA in a while. I think when I do rewatch it soon, my opinion of it will turn out lesser than I had it before.

It will. TFA diminishes like a fart in the wind upon subsequent viewings.

Nah that’s Rogue One.

What do you know, you’re a gungan for Christ’s sake.

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Jim Smith said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Jim Smith said:

yhwx said:

I haven’t watched TFA in a while. I think when I do rewatch it soon, my opinion of it will turn out lesser than I had it before.

It will. TFA diminishes like a fart in the wind upon subsequent viewings.

Nah that’s Rogue One.

What do you know?

Lots of useless information that will never get me anywhere important, like that Rogue One is boring.

Not enough people read the EU.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

Jim Smith said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Jim Smith said:

yhwx said:

I haven’t watched TFA in a while. I think when I do rewatch it soon, my opinion of it will turn out lesser than I had it before.

It will. TFA diminishes like a fart in the wind upon subsequent viewings.

Nah that’s Rogue One.

What do you know?

Lots of useless information that will never get me anywhere important, like that Rogue One is boring.

Rogue One is boring. Even the cheap thrills, which I like, of the Star Wars action stuff is diminished by it taking itself far too seriously.

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Just watched it again for the first time in about a year. I still loved it. Honestly I wasn’t even bothered by some of the similarities to ANH. The only thing I would change is cut down on some of the humor and trim Kylo rens temper tantrums. Maybe after I do my eventual rotj fan edit.

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Possessed said:

Just watched it again for the first time in about a year. I still loved it. Honestly I wasn’t even bothered by some of the similarities to ANH. The only thing I would change is cut down on some of the humor and trim Kylo rens temper tantrums. Maybe after I do my eventual rotj fan edit.

My only problems with it weren’t what I wanted cut out but what I wanted more of.

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TV’s Frink said:

Watched again in preparation for TLJ. Definitely a bit rehashy (especially the control room scene where they make their plans to attack Starkiller Base - that’s a bad scene, no two ways about it), but overall still an excellent Star Wars movie. Once again, I simply cannot understand how anyone could rate a prequel above it…especially if they’ve actually seen a prequel recently. TFA feels like a Star Wars movie, from the characters to the look, it’s Star Wars. The prequels feel like an entirely different franchise, one that probably would have been cancelled after the first (and absolutely after the second).

8/10

If you prioritize likable characters, dialogue, and fan service, The Force Awakens is superior to any of the prequels. But if you prioritize realistic character flaws, strong villains, lightsaber duels, originality, worldbuilding, and political drama, any of the prequels is superior to The Force Awakens.

The main problem with The Force Awakens is the unoriginal story. If I wanted to watch a movie where

  1. A droid is carrying top-secret information on a desolate desert planet,
  2. A Force-sensitive, masked, and darkly clothed villain commands his subordinates to find the droid,
  3. Stormtroopers wipe out a desert settlement,
  4. The enemy tortures a hero to extract the top-secret information,
  5. A Force-sensitive orphan on the desert planet acquires the droid and later receives Anakin Skywalker’s lightsaber,
  6. The heroes narrowly escape an imperial attack aboard the Millenium Falcon and enlist the help of Han Solo and Chewbacca,
  7. Han Solo owes a debt he must repay
  8. The heroes visit a shady cantina with alien creatures,
  9. The masked villain in black captures and interrogates a damsel in distress aboard a planet-destroying superweapon,
  10. The planet-destroying superweapon fires on a planet or planets sympathetic to a rebellion against fascist control,
  11. The heroes infiltrate the planet-destroying superweapon, disable a tractor beam or shield generator, and rescue the damsel in distress,
  12. The protagonist watches a wise old mentor die at the hands of the masked villain in black, and
  13. As Princess Leia watches from a control room, X-wings fly through a trench on a planet-destroying superweapon in order to exploit its critical weakness and blow it out of the sky,

then I would simply watch A New Hope.

Of course The Force Awakens feels like a Star Wars movie. It is a shameless ripoff of Star Wars with no original story to tell. The protagonist is more similar to a superhero or a goddess than a flesh and blood human being with actual lifelike flaws. The primary villain is an emotionally disturbed teenager who throws temper tantrums with his lightsaber and is absolutely unintimidating.

0/10

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Lol ok.

LordPlagueis said:

TV’s Frink said:

Watched again in preparation for TLJ. Definitely a bit rehashy (especially the control room scene where they make their plans to attack Starkiller Base - that’s a bad scene, no two ways about it), but overall still an excellent Star Wars movie. Once again, I simply cannot understand how anyone could rate a prequel above it…especially if they’ve actually seen a prequel recently. TFA feels like a Star Wars movie, from the characters to the look, it’s Star Wars. The prequels feel like an entirely different franchise, one that probably would have been cancelled after the first (and absolutely after the second).

8/10

If you prioritize likable characters, dialogue, and fan service, The Force Awakens is superior to any of the prequels. But if you prioritize realistic character flaws

Like Padme going from being creeped out by Anaking to immediately falling in love?
Like Anakin going from being a Jedi to immediately betraying the galaxy on some bizarre hope that the Dark Side can save his wife, then immediately turning and asking what he’s done, then immediately going full evil two seconds later?
Like the Jedi all being idiots and having no clue about Palpatine being Sidious?

Character flaws yes, realistic no.

strong villains

Hahahah PT Anakin is an absolute joke.

lightsaber duels

I love dancing around with glowsticks! Jumping around in a lava river like space Frogger! The most powerful interesting character from ESB reduced to a short green videogame blur! The most powerful force users even using a lightsaber in the first place!

originality, worldbuilding, and political drama

Yeah the space senate scenes were really overflowing with tension and drama.

0/10

Yay another troll score.

JEDIT: Ah, you think ROTS is the second best Star Wars movie. Ok.

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Also thanks for taking us all back to Thanksgiving.

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TV’s Frink said:

But if you prioritize realistic character flaws

Like Padme going from being creeped out by Anaking to immediately falling in love?
Like Anakin going from being a Jedi to immediately betraying the galaxy on some bizarre hope that the Dark Side can save his wife, then immediately turning and asking what he’s done, then immediately going full evil two seconds later?
Like the Jedi all being idiots and having no clue about Palpatine being Sidious?

The most powerful interesting character from ESB reduced to a short green videogame blur! >

I find the PT edits I enjoy remove many (most?) of these problems. They’re not as good as the ST or RO, certainly, but also not as irretrievably unwatchable as you yourself claim they are.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.