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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 275

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I think maybe Editroid missing the point where the subjective agenda we have here (ie favouring the OT), not what the general populous has who go on IMDB. One day there might be a PT.com that edits the OT to match the PT.

Just to play devils advocate - if the PT were really THAT awful, we wouldn’t feel they could be saved through the PREQUEL RADICAL REDUX thread. Right?

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Oh, and it looks like there is a PT.com after all.

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ben_danger said:

Just to play devils advocate - if the PT were really THAT awful, we wouldn’t feel they could be saved through the PREQUEL RADICAL REDUX thread. Right?

That is a very fair point. There are GOOD things about the prequels, Im sure many agree to different degrees which is all fine. Which is why there are these threads and topics about “fixing” the prequels. Personally, most of the problems from these films were acting/dialogue, directing decisions and plot holes. From a non radical change up, stuff that Hal did with his edits helped with some of these areas.

Granted this is the Radical redux thread, so this could be an endless discussion to completely transform the films!

I read somewhere, may not have been from this site, but I think it was to start our the movies with Anakin being younger but already a padawan? That could be interesting.

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ben_danger said:

I think maybe Editroid missing the point where the subjective agenda we have here (ie favouring the OT), not what the general populous has who go on IMDB. One day there might be a PT.com that edits the OT to match the PT.

I think that already happened. They were called the “Special Editions”. 😉

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The thread is about making radical changes to the prequels and not about how fabulous they currently are 🙃

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I’ve been pondering whether the Death Star trench plot in ANH might have been intended to be anecdotal of Luke Skyhopping on Tatooine - and how those experiences indirectly equipped him for the battle of Yavin. You see this sort of thing alot in movies, and its a great way to sometimes make a convoluted victory seem believable (superhero films use it loads).

So - WHAT IF the intended (I assume it was intended) parallel between pod racing/space battle could be made more direct?

The pivotal point of the battle is Anakin flying into the droid control ship, and blowing up the reactor. Could this be made to seem more deliberate - and more believable? WHAT IF Anakin was to win the pod race by tactfully flying through a narrow alternative tunnel to slip past Sebulba? No idea how, but it might work?

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This has already been done quite successfully in many edits (L8, Hal, Q2, etc.). It works great because Lucas indeed thought of this parallel during writing but somehow forgot about it during shooting and editing. It is then more aligned with “He was already a great pilot when I met him”.

edit: oh sorry I misread your post, you mean more parallels, like a pay-off. Yeah indeed a shot-to-shot parallel between the pod race and the dog fight could be very cool (but thinking about this there already is a mirror structure, when Anakin’s ship is down within the mother ship, and “this is podracing !” emphasizes that).

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Here’s fun.
Yoda and Kenobi died in prequels.
They were projections of Anakin’s memories in the original films given substance by the good man still trapped in Vader.
This is why they begin to fade away. As Luke becomes stronger Anakin’s tangible living son becomes a better incarnation of the light side in his character.

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Bingowings said:

Here’s fun.
Yoda and Kenobi died in prequels.
They were projections of Anakin’s memories in the original films given substance by the good man still trapped in Vader.
This is why they begin to fade away. As Luke becomes stronger Anakin’s tangible living son becomes a better incarnation of the light side in his character.

Weirdly that sounds pretty awesome.

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Vaguest of ideas -

I saw the films BEFORE SUNRISE and BEFORE SUNSET recently, and was wondering about how the romance between Anakin and Padme might be a touch more convincing.

I think this would work in a PT that doesn’t contain TPM, so we start with an overhauled AOTC, and Episode III will likely be filled by a future anthology film.

So the basic premise is - we have Anakin and Padme MEET in AOTC. They have a short romance, but mutually decide, or realise it is impossible - and separate as the Clone Wars open.

The events of ROTS, which force Anakin to stay grounded on Coruscant, bringing the two together again after many years apart. The initially platonic relationship shifts as they can’t resist the revisiting the romance more completely, finally consummating their relationship - however Anakin’s slip to the Darkside ultimately stops it going any further.

She could be engaged to Bail Organa in some sort of classic aristocratic marriage. Anakin perhaps only finds out about the pregnancy being his as he chokes Padme, or it’s revealed at the very end of the film as he burns on the shores of Mustafar.

It would radically change their relationship - turning it from a marriage into more of a WHAT IF - the tragedy is possibly drawn now from Anakin not realising what good things he has until he’s crushed it.

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I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit.You can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in I thought it was good idea to give Obi-Wan and arc during the prequels.

I thought I would post this idea here because adywan is not doing the prequels

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HerekittykittyX said:

I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit.You can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in I thought it was good idea to give Obi-Wan and arc during the prequels.

I thought I would post this idea here because adywan is not doing the prequels

Look, we all know that Maul should have been kept as the villain of the whole trilogy, but it’s to late now. What you’re asking for is just not even remotely feasible.

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You can have Maul as the main villain if you (somehow) have him survive the duel. He could pretty much replace Sidious in the holograms, and he could the puppet master behind all that mess, until he’s slain by either Anakin or Obi-Wan. Of course, this might work better in the previously mentioned scenario where Palpatine isn’t working with the Separatists. Just because two people are Sith (or simply against the Jedi) doesn’t mean they have to be on the same side.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

HerekittykittyX said:

I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit.You can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in I thought it was good idea to give Obi-Wan and arc during the prequels.

I thought I would post this idea here because adywan is not doing the prequels

Look, we all that Maul should have been kept as the villain of the whole trilogy, but it’s to late now. What you’re asking for is just not even remotely feasible.

I feel like this is kinda the point of the thread.

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SparkySywer said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

HerekittykittyX said:

I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit.You can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in I thought it was good idea to give Obi-Wan and arc during the prequels.

I thought I would post this idea here because adywan is not doing the prequels

Look, we all that Maul should have been kept as the villain of the whole trilogy, but it’s to late now. What you’re asking for is just not even remotely feasible.

I feel like this is kinda the point of the thread.

The point of the thread is to post ideas that really shake up the prequels rather than nibbling off the easier to get to urksome aspects.

It’s then up to an editor to think of how they would do this.

Now it would be very time consuming and labour intensive to recast Maul, film a new actor in costume and composite them over the existing footage.

But one way Maul could be the villain of the whole piece is if his body (as per existing canon) was salvaged from Naboo. He existed as a cowled figure in the second film and is revealed to be a cyborg in the last film. that way the only new footage would be an adjustment to the Sidious footage in the second film. This is doable and not too time consuming and shakes up the story (or lack of) in the PT.

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Personally I’m making Dooku the main villain of the trilogy, replacing Sidious in many scenes, as it fits better in canon (although that’s not relevant in this thread), and will probably be easier to pull off.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Personally I’m making Dooku the main villain of the trilogy, replacing Sidious in many scenes, as it fits better in canon (although that’s not relevant in this thread), and will probably be easier to pull off.

It’s a radical shift in the story content of the PT. It’s relevent 😃

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Bingowings said:

SparkySywer said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

HerekittykittyX said:

I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit.You can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in I thought it was good idea to give Obi-Wan and arc during the prequels.

I thought I would post this idea here because adywan is not doing the prequels

Look, we all that Maul should have been kept as the villain of the whole trilogy, but it’s to late now. What you’re asking for is just not even remotely feasible.

I feel like this is kinda the point of the thread.

The point of the thread is to post ideas that really shake up the prequels rather than nibbling off the easier to get to urksome aspects.

It’s then up to an editor to think of how they would do this.

Now it would be very time consuming and labour intensive to recast Maul, film a new actor in costume and composite them over the existing footage.

But one way Maul could be the villain of the whole piece is if his body (as per existing canon) was salvaged from Naboo. He existed as a cowled figure in the second film and is revealed to be a cyborg in the last film. that way the only new footage would be an adjustment to the Sidious footage in the second film. This is doable and not too time consuming and shakes up the story (or lack of) in the PT.

another idea how about have episode 2 be episode 1 then episode 2 will be called clone wars take 4 to 6 episodes of the clone wars make anakin more relatable then have revenge of the Sith so the order will go episode 1 attack of the clones start it off with duel of the fates have mual “die” then cut into attack of the clones put ten years later cut into Anakin and Obi-Wan talking in the elevator have then have episode 2 be the clone wars tv show have the mual arc and the domnio squad arc and add the scene were Anakin beats up the dude padmae is flirting with foreshadow what he is becoming and end the flim with mual getting shocked to death by the emperor then have episode 3 revenge of the sith

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Bingowings said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Personally I’m making Dooku the main villain of the trilogy, replacing Sidious in many scenes, as it fits better in canon (although that’s not relevant in this thread), and will probably be easier to pull off.

It’s a radical shift in the story content of the PT. It’s relevent 😃

What I meant is that not contradicting canon doesn’t lend itself well to radical changes.