Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
The Person in Question
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
Technically any change without the original being available is a crime against cinema (though this is a relatively minor misdemeanor). Remember this is the site where people were complaining that they covered up Robert Patrick’s balls in Terminator 2.
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
I got no problem with the subtitle, but the way it’s implemented is the first in a long line of lazy changes.
Ady’s Revisited has the subtitle and the original timing, making it my ideal version.
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
Technically any change without the original being available is a crime against cinema (though this is a relatively minor misdemeanor). Remember this is the site where people were complaining that they covered up Robert Patrick’s balls in Terminator 2.
I know what people complain about on this site, I just think that some of it is completely absurd.
The Person in Question
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
It’s because of what it now represents 😉
.Val
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
Technically any change without the original being available is a crime against cinema (though this is a relatively minor misdemeanor). Remember this is the site where people were complaining that they covered up Robert Patrick’s balls in Terminator 2.
I know what people complain about on this site, I just think that some of it is completely absurd.
Yes, I think the crawl complaint right now is absurd.
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
It’s because of what it now represents 😉
.Val
It still seems a bit much.
I wouldn’t go that far. Had Lucas stopped in '81 and released that version on DVD and later on BluRay, I probably wouldn’t care. But since that didn’t happen, A New Hope now stands for the first glimpse of the revisionist bullshit that was to come. And now, I associate it with the Special Edition, rather than the '81 home video release (or the theatrical re-release).
I was being decidedly unserious.
That’s how I took it. I just wasn’t sure if you were implying that I was too harsh on the '81 version.
Oh I definitely was, but not maliciously.
Frank’s point remains. Star Wars refers to the original film. ANH refers to the altered versions, most of which are shit.
My point remains also, and just you wait til I remember what it was.
I would love to hear the reasoning in putting ANH fifth.
Mine are ranked in rewatchability order
I would love to hear why you consider ANH fifth in rewatchability.
My first four picks I find more pleasure in watching. Watching SW:ANH is like not fast forwarding the Lois Lane flying scene in Superman: The movie.
“Can you read my mind?”
I can’t tell if you’re just making a Superman joke or if you also agree.
Yes. No.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Frank’s point remains. Star Wars refers to the original film. ANH refers to the altered versions, most of which are shit.
Not really. All ANH versions of the film, including the SE at one point, were referred to as Star Wars.
The Person in Question
Frank’s point remains. Star Wars refers to the original film. ANH refers to the altered versions, most of which are shit.
Not really. All ANH versions of the film, including the SE at one point, were referred to as Star Wars.
Well honestly this kinda proves Frank’s point more, because no one really called it ANH until the PT and the SEs.
No one called it ANH until we were knee-deep into the PT.
The Person in Question
No one called it ANH until we were knee-deep into the PT.
Exactly and by then it was all SE. Therefore SW=great, ANH=ehhh…
Rogue One after 1981:
Rogue One before 1981:
Referring to the 1981 version always irks me because we all watched Star Wars on VHS for years without having any problems with that subtitle being in the crawl, but now it’s apparently a crime against cinema.
I don’t really refer to the '81 version as ANH. If that was the version released alongside the SE in high quality, I probably wouldn’t be here. But sice that didn’t happen, I want the real deal and go all the way back to '77. Call it an act of defiance if you want.
Like Dom said, even though not all versions of the SE were publicly referred to as ANH, all versions of the movie that were called ANH by the public are SE versions. Therefore, I associate ANH with the SE. And since the '97 version is much closer to the '04 cut than the '81 release, it makes sense to file that one also under ANH.
When talking about Star Wars, I want to differentiate between the SE and pre-SE versions of the movie. Calling one Star Wars and the others A New Hope is a nice way to do this.
Ceci n’est pas une signature.
This argument is ridiculous.
This argument is ridiculous.
It’s ridiculously ridiculous.
The Person in Question
The movie is always called Star Wars. The title crawl isn’t relevant, only what the poster art says. There’s no giant number IV on the cover of any release I care to watch.
SW:ANH
I found your problem. You should watch Star Wars. That’s a much better movie than A New Hope.
Nope, I grew up watching Star Wars, ANH was a decent chance to revitalize my desire to watch the movie. It was a wonderful groundbreaking movie for it’s time, but out of everything it is the most dated and the most filled with flaws and things I would have like to have seen them actually change for today’s viewing audience.
Who is the more foolish, the fool, or the one who follows him?
There’s no giant number IV on the cover of any release I care to watch.
Which is the whole point of differentiating between Star Wars and A New Hope.
Ceci n’est pas une signature.
The movie is always called Star Wars. The title crawl isn’t relevant, only what the poster art says.
Hahaha what.
The movie is always called Star Wars. The title crawl isn’t relevant, only what the poster art says.
Hahaha what.
This is the title of the movie.
Really nobody even cared about calling them by episode names until the obscene Episode I marketing push came along.
Oh nevermind, I misunderstood what you were saying.