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the entire book was one big chapter
Finished Ready Player One for the podcast “book club” 372 Pages We’ll Never Get Back (from a couple of the RiffTrax guys). Holy shit, that book is the absolute worst. Badly written, poorly plotted, the main character has no redeeming qualities and spends 371 pages bragging about how much stuff he has memorized.
As a gamer, I was intrigued by this book so I bought the audiobook from Audible. I couldn’t even get past the first few chapters. Somewhere early on, the main character thinks about how smart he is for realizing there is no God, then almost immediately afterward he goes back to watching episodes of Family Ties and thinks about how pointless life is.
So… Rick and Morty?
Rick and Morty if the creators meant for Rick to be someone to emulate.
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the entire book was one big chapter
But seriously. Speaking for myself as a Christian, and the fulfillment I personally get from my faith, it was extremely ironic to hear Wil Wheaton say “There is no God and I’m smart to realize it; I wish I could tell my younger self” followed immediately by “This is stupid; Life sucks and then you die.”
As I have said a number of times before, I mostly enjoy escapism and adventure in my fiction. It would be fun to have a nostalgic 80’s/90’s romp in fiction, but not when the main character craps all over the idea first. It really ruined the mood and I was no longer interested.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
A great many atheists are like that. Think they are so much smarter than everyone else for being an atheist. You can’t prove there is no god any more than you can prove that there is. Hold on to whatever belief you have, but don’t think yourself superior for it.
A great many atheists are like that. Think they are so much smarter than everyone else for being an atheist. You can’t prove there is no god any more than you can prove that there is.
That’s why anyone who isn’t agnostic is an idiot!
The ‘superior atheistic nihilist’ cliche seems to have become much more prominent in the early 2000’s with the growth of the internet and Youtube in particular. It’s certainly in character for him to conform to the cliche, given that. Doesn’t make it any more palatable however.
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I know personally many people like that. But it’s likely they’ve been enabled by the internet.
But seriously. Speaking for myself as a Christian, and the fulfillment I personally get from my faith, it was extremely ironic to hear Wil Wheaton say “There is no God and I’m smart to realize it; I wish I could tell my younger self” followed immediately by “This is stupid; Life sucks and then you die.”
In his defense, a lot of people including myself had incredibly unfulfilling experiences with faith. I don’t know the context of that statement so I won’t say much more, but I certainly wish I could have told my younger self not to care about God and the devil. Even in the last couple years I had another relapse (I call it that specifically in reference to my situation, not other people’s) into Christianity and it did nothing positive for me, in fact it was negative.
The Person in Question
And I can understand that, particularly in this current political climate. It is not my intent to preach, but only to convey my dissatisfaction with Ready Player One for killing my motivation to keep reading it.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
I’m curious what the context of that sentence is. There’s a tragic irony to being unable to believe in a philosophy that assigns meaning to life when you hate life.
The Person in Question
I’m curious what the context of that sentence is. There’s a tragic irony to being unable to believe in a philosophy that assigns meaning to life when you hate life.
The context is that his neighbor, who is the only person in real life who treats him kindly, believes in God. The speech is him telling the reader that he doesn’t have the heart to tell her that God is a myth perpetuated for generations and that he’s so much better off. And it’s at least a couple paragraphs long, just ranting to the reader about how enlightened he is and how dumb his kind neighbor is.
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I wish someone had just told me the truth right up front, as soon as I was old enough to understand it. I wish someone had just said: “Here’s the deal, Wade. You’re something called a ‘human being.’ That’s a really smart kind of animal. Like every other animal on this planet, we’re descended from a single-celled organism that lived millions of years ago. This happened by a process called evolution, and you’ll learn more about it But trust me, that’s really how we all got here. There’s proof of it everywhere, buried in the rocks. That story you heard? About how we were all created by a super-powerful dude named God who lives up in the sky? Total bullshit. The whole God thing is actually an ancient fairy tale that people have been telling one another for thousands of years. We made it all up. Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. “Oh, and by the way … there’s no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny. Also bullshit. Sorry, kid Deal with it."
Cheery shit, in the middle of a book about a kid memorizing Holy Grail to win a contest.
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Is the character supposed to be an asshole?
The Person in Question
Is the character supposed to be an asshole?
He’s the point of view hero, who never has a comeuppance in any way.
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I’m curious what the context of that sentence is. There’s a tragic irony to being unable to believe in a philosophy that assigns meaning to life when you hate life.
Okay, here’s the whole thing.
[I]t didn’t take me long to discover that the OASIS was also the world’s biggest public library, where even a penniless kid like me had access to every book ever written, every song ever recorded, and every movie, television show, videogame, and piece of artwork ever created. The collected knowledge, art, and amusements of all human civilization were there, waiting for me. But gaining access to all of that information turned out to be something of a mixed blessing. Because that was when I found out the truth.
I don’t know, maybe your experience differed from mine. For me, growing up as a human being on the planet Earth in the twenty-first century was a real kick in the teeth. Existentially speaking.
The worst thing about being a kid was that no one told me the truth about my situation. In fact, they did the exact opposite. And, of course, I believed them, because I was just a kid and I didn’t know any better. I mean, Christ, my brain hadn’t even grown to full size yet, so how could I be expected to know when the adults were bullshitting me?
So I swallowed all of the dark ages nonsense they fed me. Some time passed. I grew up a little, and I gradually began to figure out that pretty much everyone had been lying to me about pretty much everything since the moment I emerged from my mother’s womb.
This was an alarming revelation.
It gave me trust issues later in life.I started to figure out the ugly truth as soon as I began to explore the free OASIS libraries. The facts were right there waiting for me, hidden in old books written by people who weren’t afraid to be honest. Artists and scientists and philosophers and poets, many of them long dead. As I read the words they’d left behind, I finally began to get a grip on the situation. My situation. Our situation. What most people referred to as “the human condition.”
It was not good news.
I wish someone had just told me the truth right up front, as soon as I was old enough to understand it. I wish someone had just said:
“Here’s the deal, Wade. You’re something called a ‘human being.’ That’s a really smart kind of animal. Like every other animal on this planet, we’re descended from a single-celled organism that lived millions of years ago. This happened by a process called evolution, and you’ll learn more about it later. But trust me, that’s really how we all got here. There’s proof of it everywhere, buried in the rocks. That story you heard? About how we were all created by a super-powerful dude named God who lives up in the sky? Total bullshit. The whole God thing is actually an ancient fairy tale that people have been telling one another for thousands of years. We made it all up. Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
“Oh, and by the way … there’s no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny. Also bullshit. Sorry, kid. Deal with it.
“You’re probably wondering what happened before you got here. An awful lot of stuff, actually. Once we evolved into humans, things got pretty interesting. We figured out how to grow food and domesticate animals so we didn’t have to spend all of our time hunting. Our tribes got much bigger, and we spread across the entire planet like an unstoppable virus. Then, after fighting a bunch of wars with each other over land, resources, and our made-up gods, we eventually got all of our tribes organized into a ‘global civilization.’ But, honestly, it wasn’t all that organized, or civilized, and we continued to fight a lot of wars with each other. But we also figured out how to do science, which helped us develop technology. For a bunch of hairless apes, we’ve actually managed to invent some pretty incredible things. Computers. Medicine. Lasers. Microwave ovens. Artificial hearts. Atomic bombs. We even sent a few guys to the moon and brought them back. We also created a global communications network that lets us all talk to each other, all around the world, all the time. Pretty impressive, right?
“But that’s where the bad news comes in. Our global civilization came at a huge cost. We needed a whole bunch of energy to build it, and we got that energy by burning fossil fuels, which came from dead plants and animals buried deep in the ground. We used up most of this fuel before you got here, and now it’s pretty much all gone. This means that we no longer have enough energy to keep our civilization running like it was before. So we’ve had to cut back. Big-time. We call this the Global Energy Crisis, and it’s been going on for a while now.
“Also, it turns out that burning all of those fossil fuels had some nasty side effects, like raising the temperature of our planet and screwing up the environment. So now the polar ice caps are melting, sea levels are rising, and the weather is all messed up. Plants and animals are dying off in record numbers, and lots of people are starving and homeless. And we’re still fighting wars with each other, mostly over the few resources we have left.
“Basically, kid, what this all means is that life is a lot tougher than it used to be, in the Good Old Days, back before you were born. Things used to be awesome, but now they’re kinda terrifying. To be honest, the future doesn’t look too bright. You were born at a pretty crappy time in history. And it looks like things are only gonna get worse from here on out. Human civilization is in ‘decline.’ Some people even say it’s ‘collapsing.’
“You’re probably wondering what’s going to happen to you. That’s easy. The same thing is going to happen to you that has happened to every other human being who has ever lived. You’re going to die. We all die. That’s just how it is.
“What happens when you die? Well, we’re not completely sure. But the evidence seems to suggest that nothing happens. You’re just dead, your brain stops working, and then you’re not around to ask annoying questions anymore. Those stories you heard? About going to a wonderful place called ‘heaven’ where there is no more pain or death and you live forever in a state of perpetual happiness? Also total bullshit. Just like all that God stuff. There’s no evidence of a heaven and there never was. We made that up too. Wishful thinking. So now you have to live the rest of your life knowing you’re going to die someday and disappear forever.
“Sorry.”
OK, on second thought, maybe honesty isn’t the best policy after all. Maybe it isn’t a good idea to tell a newly arrived human being that he’s been born into a world of chaos, pain, and poverty just in time to watch everything fall to pieces. I discovered all of that gradually over several years, and it still made me feel like jumping off a bridge.
Luckily, I had access to the OASIS, which was like having an escape hatch into a better reality. The OASIS kept me sane. It was my playground and my preschool, a magical place where anything was possible.
So as you can see, it totally killed the mood. I wasn’t just reading this—I was listening to Wil Wheaton tell it to me, and from what I know of him it felt like he probably meant it himself.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
God, it was longer than I remembered.
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Is that stuff even relevant at all to the story?
Well, I don’t see that the narrator deserves comeuppance for having such a harsh worldview, but if that has no bearing on the story I can see how it’s obnoxious. I don’t know why Wil Wheaton happening to be the audiobook reader has any effect on it being a problem. If it is relevant to the story it could provide a window into a jaded and hopeless mind. I’ve never read it, I don’t know, so I can’t say that it kills the mood since I have no idea how out of place it is.
The Person in Question
Yeah, I mean there’s necessarily nothing wrong with being atheist and/or jaded, those passages just seem out of place for what I thought that kind of story would be.
The story is supposed to be about a kid’s efforts to win the inheritance of a rich old man who left an easter egg in a video game. Whomever finds the easter egg wins; and the old man had a penchant for 80’s pop culture so delving into same would likely help you find the egg.
That’s it. That’s the plot, or what the plot is built up to be before this, as well as marketed. That’s why I was interested in the book, but when I got to this section I could no longer be bothered.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Well, I don’t see that the narrator deserves comeuppance for having such a harsh worldview, but if that has no bearing on the story I can see how it’s obnoxious. I don’t know why Wil Wheaton happening to be the audiobook reader has any effect on it being a problem. If it is relevant to the story it could provide a window into a jaded and hopeless mind. I’ve never read it, I don’t know, so I can’t say that it kills the mood since I have no idea how out of place it is.
I meant that he doesn’t get comeuppance for being an insufferable asshole through the entire book.
And I imagine Wheaton was reading it in the sly voice he does that makes even the most innocent things insufferable.
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And I imagine Wheaton was reading it in the sly voice he does that makes even the most innocent things insufferable.
Shut up, Wesley.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
But Wil Wheaton is a brilliant genius!
The Person in Question
I’m an atheist and I’ll leave it at that. Also can’t stand Rick and Morty and I’ll leave it at that too.
Borrowed from the local library Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and UBIK by Philip K. Dick. Have The Man in the High Castle on my phone. On page 411 of 1041 of Stephen King’s IT. (7pt font size on phone. It’s an epub and I have the legit book first printing in storage.)
Still want to read the rest of the METRO and THE WITCHER books. Might as well start reading the 6 or however many Day Watch books. The Russian vampires where there were two movies. Found the Millenium Trilogy books in storage so I’m glad I don’t have to rebuy them.
I’m an atheist and I’ll leave it at that.
Good for you. I’m not. Good for me. Nobody is complaining about the guy being an atheist. Being an atheist is okay. We’re complaining about being an asshole about it. The kind of atheism that condescends and laughs at any other viewpoint and judges not being an atheist as being of less intelligence. And there are plenty like that, just as there are many who believe in god that condemn those that don’t. You can’t concretely prove either way so there’s no reason to be snobby about your beliefs.
So yeah as long as you aren’t an asshole about it nobody will mind.