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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 104

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NeverarGreat said:

I think a lot of people see the greatness achieved by Empire and forget that it stood on the shoulders of Star Wars.

ray_afraid said:

I don’t disagree at all. As Kershner said, Star Wars is the breakthrough and therefore can’t be outdone.
But ESB takes all of it and pushes it to the next level in a much more mature film. That’s something Star Wars has never gotten again.

I don’t see it that way. I know of the interview you mentioned, but IIRC they were talking mostly about SW’s original success, not necessarily about SW being potentially better than TESB as a movie.
In the end, I think they were able to make TESB stand on its own, in fact I’d say it’s a very different movie than SW, it doesn’t just rely on building on top of the previous movie. They are both good movies, mind you, but in my opinion TESB is better than SW because it has much more depth, much more care for the characters and its world. It is also so well crafted I’d often take a random scene and start analyzing it just to learn how the hell were they able to to make it so good. Few movies are so well made (especially in recent years), it’s just that good 😃

The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201

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darthrush said:

NeverarGreat said:

Star Wars is the best movie of the franchise.
The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie of the franchise.

Which one you prefer says a lot about how much of a Star Wars fan you are vs simply liking good movies.

Thanks for the great distinction though between the two. I’ve never heard it put that way.

Someone has used it as a signature without “of the franchise” here for years but I don’t remember who.

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
The Force Awakens
A New Hope
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace

Who is the more foolish, the fool, or the one who follows him?

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I would love to hear the reasoning in putting ANH fifth.

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TV’s Frink said:

I would love to hear the reasoning in putting ANH fifth.

Mine are ranked in rewatchability order

Who is the more foolish, the fool, or the one who follows him?

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TV’s Frink said:

ZeeverFett said:

TV’s Frink said:

I would love to hear the reasoning in putting ANH fifth.

Mine are ranked in rewatchability order

I would love to hear why you consider ANH fifth in rewatchability.

My first four picks I find more pleasure in watching. Watching SW:ANH is like not fast forwarding the Lois Lane flying scene in Superman: The movie.

Who is the more foolish, the fool, or the one who follows him?

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Man. To me ANH is the MOST rewatchable of all of them, and it’s not even my favorite.

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ZeeverFett said:

TV’s Frink said:

ZeeverFett said:

TV’s Frink said:

I would love to hear the reasoning in putting ANH fifth.

Mine are ranked in rewatchability order

I would love to hear why you consider ANH fifth in rewatchability.

My first four picks I find more pleasure in watching. Watching SW:ANH is like not fast forwarding the Lois Lane flying scene in Superman: The movie.

“Can you read my mind?”

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Absolutely right too, the five words “Episode Iv A New Hope” they added in 1981 totally ruined the movie.

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I wouldn’t go that far. Had Lucas stopped in '81 and released that version on DVD and later on BluRay, I probably wouldn’t care. But since that didn’t happen, A New Hope now stands for the first glimpse of the revisionist bullshit that was to come. And now, I associate it with the Special Edition, rather than the '81 home video release (or the theatrical re-release).

Ceci n’est pas une signature.

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chyron8472 said:

ZeeverFett said:

TV’s Frink said:

ZeeverFett said:

TV’s Frink said:

I would love to hear the reasoning in putting ANH fifth.

Mine are ranked in rewatchability order

I would love to hear why you consider ANH fifth in rewatchability.

My first four picks I find more pleasure in watching. Watching SW:ANH is like not fast forwarding the Lois Lane flying scene in Superman: The movie.

“Can you read my mind?”

I can’t tell if you’re just making a Superman joke or if you also agree.

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Frank your Majesty said:

I wouldn’t go that far. Had Lucas stopped in '81 and released that version on DVD and later on BluRay, I probably wouldn’t care. But since that didn’t happen, A New Hope now stands for the first glimpse of the revisionist bullshit that was to come. And now, I associate it with the Special Edition, rather than the '81 home video release (or the theatrical re-release).

I was being decidedly unserious.

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Possessed said:

Absolutely right too, the five words “Episode Iv A New Hope” they added in 1981 totally ruined the movie.

SW 77 is a masterpiece. ANH 81 is the worst movie ever made.

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Possessed said:

Frank your Majesty said:

I wouldn’t go that far. Had Lucas stopped in '81 and released that version on DVD and later on BluRay, I probably wouldn’t care. But since that didn’t happen, A New Hope now stands for the first glimpse of the revisionist bullshit that was to come. And now, I associate it with the Special Edition, rather than the '81 home video release (or the theatrical re-release).

I was being decidedly unserious.

That’s how I took it. I just wasn’t sure if you were implying that I was too harsh on the '81 version.

Ceci n’est pas une signature.