Well, that depends on how dark it gets. Movies aren’t always given R ratings strictly for violence or language or sex/nudity - thematic and disturbing elements can be a factor, too.
I don’t expect any censorship, but I don’t think it’s impossible.
It’s not impossible in the sense that it is, of course, technically possible, but I think there is a higher chance of a fairy using a magic spell to turn me into a VHS copy of Dazed and Confused than there is of Episode VIII getting an R rating.
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Well, it won’t get an R rating, but the MPAA might require cuts before giving it a PG-13. Happens more often than you think, and most of the time it’s tiny trims - we’re talking stuff like cutting 5 frames off of shot X and 3 frames off of shot Y. Hell, the last Hobbit movie was rated R in its extended cut - though oddly enough, some of the extensions in the LOTR EEs were restored from cuts the MPAA imposed to get a PG-13, yet they still gave all three of the LOTR EEs PG-13 ratings. Bet they forgot they required Jackson to cut Lurtz licking the knife Aragorn stabbed him with or to shorten Smeagol strangling Deagol by a few seconds by the time the EEs were submitted…
It would have to be pretty dark to out do the Anakin BBQ scene in ROTS.
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Actually, I think I remember hearing once upon a time that the MPAA did require some cuts to that scene, but I don’t know for sure. I’ll see if I can do a quick Google while work is slow.
I’m also very interested to see the MPAA and BBFC ratings for this. At least with BBFC we’ll know if anything gets censored for a lower rating, but it’s entirely possible we’d never find out if the same is true here in the US.
If censorship happens, it’ll most likely be from the MPAA here in the US firsr, then that censored cut will be the “official” cut and would be the version that gets sent to the BBFC and other countries. So if the BBFC cuts anything, it’s possible that it would actually be twice-censored…
I can’t imagine that any
DisneyStar Wars movie would contain a shred of content warranting an R rating.
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Well, at any rate, it appears that I was mistaken about ROTS being cut to get PG-13, or at least I can’t find anything via Google about it.
It will be PG-13 in the end. Disney wants as many viewers as possible. There will never be a R rated Star Wars film. If anything, there could be something darker, once they get their own streaming service up an running by 2019.
I can’t imagine we’ll ever be getting a PG or U rated Star Wars movie again either - at least not a live action one. I think the PG-13 / 12 rating seems to be what they aim for nowadays.
It will be PG-13 in the end. Disney wants as many viewers as possible. There will never be a R rated Star Wars film. If anything, there could be something darker, once they get their own streaming service up an running by 2019.
I mean, I was never trying to say that a Star Wars film would ever be released with an R rating. Just that it’s possible that the MPAA might require some elements to be dialed back to ensure a PG-13. It’s not likely, but it’s possible. Let’s not forget that AOTC is censored in the UK, and (not Star Wars, but it’s another PG-13 example) Casino Royale is censored in the US and censored differently in the UK.
It’s not likely, but it’s possible, and the disclaimer on the TV spot is giving me Temple of Doom vibes, which carried the same disclaimer and ended up causing the creation of the PG-13 rating.
It will be PG-13 in the end.
DisneyStar Wars wants as many viewers as possible.
WYSHS
Rian Johnson replied this when asked if the movie was okay for a seven-year-old:
"It really depends on the 7 year old. There are intense things in the movie, but I don’t think anything worse than in the OT or prequels."
https://www.cnet.com/news/star-wars-last-jedi-appropriate-for-kids-director-rian-johnson-george-lucas/
I’d really be surprised if it was any worse than Rogue One. It’s weird that they’re advertising that it has intense scenes, though. Assuming Rian Johnson was telling the truth in his tweet, two possibilities are in my mind:
Intensity might be referring to things that we as adults aren’t bothered by, but kids might take very seriously. For example, we might see Luke or Rey getting tortured horribly, and while it wouldn’t make an adult blink an eye (it’s nothing even close to R rated material), to a kid it might be kind of a traumatic to see someone getting tortured like that. I’m sort of thinking of the shot in the trailer where Snoke is kind of bending over Rey with the force.
Disney got some complaints about how violent and sad Rogue One was, especially in comparison to mostly lighthearted (and also PG-13) TFA. I mean, yes TFA had action but it was a cartoony sort of action. Rogue One was a flat out war movie.
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Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:
I can’t imagine we’ll ever be getting a PG or U rated Star Wars movie again either - at least not a live action one. I think the PG-13 / 12 rating seems to be what they aim for nowadays.
Yeah, this. Everything now is 12A in theatres.
- Disney got some complaints about how violent and sad Rogue One was, especially in comparison to mostly lighthearted (and also PG-13) TFA. I mean, yes TFA had action but it was a cartoony sort of action. Rogue One was a flat out war movie.
TFA had the opening where an entire village is slaughtered and also had Han Solo murdered pretty brutally.
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I’m also very interested to see the MPAA and BBFC ratings for this. At least with BBFC we’ll know if anything gets censored for a lower rating, but it’s entirely possible we’d never find out if the same is true here in the US.
If censorship happens, it’ll most likely be from the MPAA here in the US firsr, then that censored cut will be the “official” cut and would be the version that gets sent to the BBFC and other countries. So if the BBFC cuts anything, it’s possible that it would actually be twice-censored…
I can’t imagine that any
DisneyStar Wars movie would contain a shred of content warranting an R rating.WYSHS
No. Episode III had some shreds of content fitting for an R rated film. I’m not bashing Disney, I see no need for an R rated Star Wars movie.
The Person in Question
- Disney got some complaints about how violent and sad Rogue One was, especially in comparison to mostly lighthearted (and also PG-13) TFA. I mean, yes TFA had action but it was a cartoony sort of action. Rogue One was a flat out war movie.
TFA had the opening where an entire village is slaughtered and also had Han Solo murdered pretty brutally.
Wasn’t there a scene in Rogue One where Gin pushed a small child into a laserbolt?
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Lucas wouldn’t have risked to end the PT with an R rated movie. That would have severely reduced his ticket and toy sales.
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- Disney got some complaints about how violent and sad Rogue One was, especially in comparison to mostly lighthearted (and also PG-13) TFA. I mean, yes TFA had action but it was a cartoony sort of action. Rogue One was a flat out war movie.
TFA had the opening where an entire village is slaughtered and also had Han Solo murdered pretty brutally.
Wasn’t there a scene in Rogue One where Gin pushed a small child into a laserbolt?
Huh? There’s a scene where “Jyn” pulls a child away from laser fire.
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novel; Dawn of the Karabu.
I must’ve misinterpreted that scene then.
The Person in Question
Rogue One was a flat out war movie.
I was surprised by the violence of the movie when I saw it again: it’s quite cartoonish as well as a matter of fact. Even when Darth kills rebels by dozens the scene is less violent than Anakin killing seperatists in ROTS. There is no bloodshed or severed limbs and most of the people getting killed are in a white suit (and they kinda die funny). R1 is far from being the “gritty war movie” everybody seems to remember.
Rogue One was a flat out war movie.
I was surprised by the violence of the movie when I saw it again: it’s quite cartoonish as well as a matter of fact. Even when Darth kills rebels by dozens the scene is less violent than Anakin killing seperatists in ROTS.
Hahahaha no.
I actually have to agree with Malá on that. Anakin killing the separatists was a lot more brutal than anything that happened in Rogue One. I’d still rather watch R1 than the PT.
The Person in Question
I decided to watch the scenes and compare. Make of this what you will.
Revenge of the Sith - Separatist slaughter scene
B1 battle droid cut in half
2 Nemoidians sliced across the abdomen
1 B1 cut in half
1 Separatist stabbed
1 B1 chopped down
1 Nemoidian collapses from phantom wound
1 Separatist slashed across the back
1 Separatist slashed across the chest
1 Separatist sliced under arm
1 Geonosian chopped in half
1 Nemoidian sliced across chest
1 B1 chopped in two
1 Nemoidian slashed across chest
1 B1 killed by deflected blaster bolt
Nute Gunray slashed across chest
Total deaths: 15?
Kill variety: Poor
Empathy felt for victims: None (they’re cheesy comic-book villains)
CGI deaths: Yes
Rogue One - Rebel slaughter scene
2 to 3 Rebels killed by deflect blaster bolts
1 Rebel suspended in the air and chopped across the stomach
1 Rebel killed by deflected blaster bolt
4 Rebels force(😛)fully disarmed
2 Rebels killed by saber swipes
1 Rebel force choked and thrown into a wall
1 Rebel stabbed through door
3 Rebels killed behind closed door
Total deaths: 15-16?
Kill variety: Good
Empathy felt for victims: Some (they’re the “good guys,” but are still nameless grunts)
CGI deaths: No
^Jeebus gets it.
Also I’d add that the nameless grunts are terrified whereas the ROTS victims are whatever.