Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 414

Warbler said:

Is it really too far fetched to think that maybe statues of Jefferson and Washington might also have to go?

Yes, it is.

And by the way…

Lori Vermeulen, Stockton’s provost and vice president for academic affairs, said Thursday in a letter to the campus community that the bust’s removal was temporary, and that there are plans to incorporate it in an exhibit that will show Richard Stockton’s role from a more historical perspective.

If they were just throwing it in the trash, that would bother me. But I’m fine with this.

yhwx said:

https://youtu.be/sx0ICHi1atk

ok, I could only get through a couple minutes of that. That guy is nuts.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Is it really too far fetched to think that maybe statues of Jefferson and Washington might also have to go?

Yes, it is.

if you say so. Btw, who are you to judge? You’re white and privileged. Maybe the fate of Jefferson and Washington should be left up to people of color to decide, right? After all, we don’t know how it feels to have monuments to people who enslaved our ancestors.

And by the way…

Lori Vermeulen, Stockton’s provost and vice president for academic affairs, said Thursday in a letter to the campus community that the bust’s removal was temporary, and that there are plans to incorporate it in an exhibit that will show Richard Stockton’s role from a more historical perspective.

If they were just throwing it in the trash, that would bother me. But I’m fine with this.

It is the very same thing they are talking about doing with the Confederate Monuments, putting them in a museum.

My point is, the only reason they are taking this guy’s bust down is because he owned slaves. Therefore owning slaves now enough to justify removing monuments.

Sounds reasonable.

I assume you are being sarcastic.

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/24/court-trump-protester-data-inauguration-disruptj20/

Warbler said:

I assume you are being sarcastic.

You assume correctly.

Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hell, I’ve never heard of Stockton before.

I have. He a member of the 2nd Continental Congress from New Jersey. He is one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stockton_(Continental_Congressman)

I’m pretty sure you’re in the minority there.

Warbler said:

I assume you are being sarcastic.

I guess this qualifies as progress.

TV’s Frink said:

I’m pretty sure you’re in the minority there.

Well, I am sure a lot of historians know about him. I guess the first time I ever heard of the guy was from the movie 1776. At the beginning of the movie, everyone in congress wonders where the representatives from New Jersey are. A little bit later, 3 representatives from NJ arrive, announcing that the old delegation was recalled and new one sent in its place. One of the the three was Richard Stockton. The other two were John Witherspoon and Francis Hopkinson. It turned the royal governor of NJ(Ben Franklin’s son) was arrested and the new delegation was instructed to vote in favor of Independence.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I assume you are being sarcastic.

I guess this qualifies as progress.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I love the 21st century.

SilverWook said:

Now things are just getting stupid.
http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/26/gone-with-the-wind-theater-canceled-screening/
For those idiots who’ve never seen the movie, spoiler alert the North wins the Civil War.

Yeah I agree, that’s pretty dumb.

Although, with that said, I’m just guessing because I’ve never actually seen Gone With the Wind.

TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

Now things are just getting stupid.
http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/26/gone-with-the-wind-theater-canceled-screening/
For those idiots who’ve never seen the movie, spoiler alert the North wins the Civil War.

Yeah I agree, that’s pretty dumb.

Frinkly, my dear, I don’t give a dahm(age).

Obviously it’s silly, but let me play devil’s advocate. They played the film this month, and there was a poor response from audiences. Audiences didn’t want to see it next year, so they swapped it out - the reason why is almost secondary.

As to that reason why, ever since I first saw it when I was a kid, the film’s glorification of the antebellum South bothered me. It’s of course a classic, and it needs to be seen, but there are other ways to see it. Let me put it this way: if it played at my local theater, I’d skip it and wait till the next screening.

SilverWook said:

Was it really from people who saw the movie? Or social media savvy trolls? Because I doubt theater do comment cards in 2017. Fake accounts on twitter are a thing, I imagine facebook has them too.

Who’s to say? Though it’s not hard to imagine people sitting that one out. Why play Gone With the Wind if more people will show up to Lawrence of Arabia?