logo Sign In

Kennedy worse than Lucas. — Page 5

This topic has been locked by a moderator.

Author
Time

imperialscum said:

dahmage said:

imperialscum said:

chyron8472 said:

generalfrevious said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

rodneyfaile said:

The Force Awakens and Rogue One are superior to the prequels in every way.

Not in terms of their soundtracks.

That’s very much up for debate.

I can’t remember any [music] from the recent films, but I absolutely remember at least one song from each prequel film.

March of the Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqKtype7Kk

Rey’s Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM

You don’t remember those?

I could actually not remember either of those. And it is probably not music’s fault but rather unmemorable nature of TFA.

who are you again?

Sorry, I do not introduce myself to peasants.

who keeps talking? or was that the wind…

Author
Time

dahmage said:

imperialscum said:

dahmage said:

imperialscum said:

chyron8472 said:

generalfrevious said:

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

rodneyfaile said:

The Force Awakens and Rogue One are superior to the prequels in every way.

Not in terms of their soundtracks.

That’s very much up for debate.

I can’t remember any [music] from the recent films, but I absolutely remember at least one song from each prequel film.

March of the Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqKtype7Kk

Rey’s Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM

You don’t remember those?

I could actually not remember either of those. And it is probably not music’s fault but rather unmemorable nature of TFA.

who are you again?

Sorry, I do not introduce myself to peasants.

who keeps talking? or was that the wind…

Someone passing gas, more like.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

I feel like we’ve been through this before, but memorability is but a small aspect of the quality of a film’s score.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

DominicCobb said:

I feel like we’ve been this before, but memorability is but a small aspect of the quality of a film’s score.

Music is art and therefore completely subjective and subjective things do not have quality. It all comes down to individual impression which then relates to memorability.

真実

Author
Time

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

I feel like we’ve been this before, but memorability is but a small aspect of the quality of a film’s score.

It all comes down to individual impression which then relates to memorability.

Yet somehow I remember you and you’re complete shit.

Author
Time

I guess some people just have a more refined taste when it comes to their “individual impression” beyond whether they can remember a piece of music they heard two years later.

Author
Time

DominicCobb said:

I guess some people just have a more refined taste when it comes to their “individual impression” beyond whether they can remember a piece of music they heard two years later.

You guess wrong. If something makes an impression on you, then you will remember it. If not, you will most likely forget it. That is just how human brain work.

真実

Author
Time

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

I feel like we’ve been this before, but memorability is but a small aspect of the quality of a film’s score.

It all comes down to individual impression which then relates to memorability.

Yet somehow I remember you and you’re complete shit.

Bad impression or good impression, it is all the same when it comes to memorability, as long as something actually makes an impression on you.

真実

Author
Time

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

I guess some people just have a more refined taste when it comes to their “individual impression” beyond whether they can remember a piece of music they heard two years later.

You guess wrong. If something makes an impression on you, then you will remember it. If not, you will most likely forget it. That is just how human brain work.

Well, believe it or not there is a difference between remembering something and finding it memorable. You can watch a film and think “hey, this music is really good and works really well as a whole and as a part of this film” and remember that impression years later. Whether that means you can remember what the melodies are is something different.

Author
Time

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

I guess some people just have a more refined taste when it comes to their “individual impression” beyond whether they can remember a piece of music they heard two years later.

You guess wrong. If something makes an impression on you, then you will remember it. If not, you will most likely forget it. That is just how human brain work.

Well, believe it or not there is a difference between remembering something and finding it memorable. You can watch a film and think “hey, this music is really good and works really well as a whole and as a part of this film” and remember that impression years later. Whether that means you can remember what the melodies are is something different.

I would say that generally, even if you do not remember the melody to extend to be able to hum it or “play” it in your head, if it actually made an impression on you, when you hear it again you will most likely recognise it. I did not recognise those two at all.

真実

Author
Time

I’m afraid that probably says more about you than the music.

Author
Time

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

I feel like we’ve been this before, but memorability is but a small aspect of the quality of a film’s score.

Music is art and therefore completely subjective and subjective things do not have quality. It all comes down to individual impression which then relates to memorability.

Movies are art, too, which also leaves them to subjective interpretations of quality. That means that your impression of the quality of a movie may not be gospel truth.

Author
Time

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

I feel like we’ve been this before, but memorability is but a small aspect of the quality of a film’s score.

subjective things do not have quality.

Haven’t you, multiple times, claimed your opinion of the recent films to be fact?

Author
Time

I don’t think there’s any question of that.

Author
Time

Gods make the rules. They don’t have to abide by them.

Author
Time

In regards to the continued absence of a restored OUT, it is 100% Disney’s fault.

It’s the last remaining bite at the apple / dip in the well / whatever analogy you want to use. Seriously folks, they had to hold off on releasing the deleted scenes until the frickin’ blu-ray instead of including them on the dvd - a format known for including deleted scenes - just so they’d have a selling point other than “the iffy-looking '04 masters of the versions you hate (but will still buy anyway for some reason), now at their full resolution! …Oh, and the prequels too.”

Disney will wait until 2020 when the rights to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels revert fully to Lucasfilm.

To those who say “yeah, but even when 2020 rolls around there’s still no guarantee it will be anything other than the SE in 4k,” I say bullshit.

There’s got to be something to that story John Landis told a couple years ago, right?

Author
Time

Fang Zei said:

In regards to the continued absence of a restored OUT, it is 100% Disney’s fault.

It’s the last remaining bite at the apple / dip in the well / whatever analogy you want to use. Seriously folks, they had to hold off on releasing the deleted scenes until the frickin’ blu-ray instead of including them on the dvd - a format known for including deleted scenes - just so they’d have a selling point other than “the iffy-looking '04 masters of the versions you hate (but will still buy anyway for some reason), now at their full resolution! …Oh, and the prequels too.”

Disney will wait until 2020 when the rights to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels revert fully to Lucasfilm.

To those who say “yeah, but even when 2020 rolls around there’s still no guarantee it will be anything other than the SE in 4k,” I say bullshit.

There’s got to be something to that story John Landis told a couple years ago, right?

I’d say 50% DISNEY and 50% Lucas.

Landis won’t even release WEREWOLF with it’s original mono audio.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

adywan said:

As for not releasing the OT, then i didn’t know you had seen the sale contract between Lucas and Disney. You haven’t? Oh, well then, how do you know that part of the contract was that they had to agree that they could not alter his films in any way, including reverting them back to their pre SE state? That they had to remain as they are in this final versions? At least until after his death? Truth is, none of us know.

Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That’ve Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay

Author
Time

Protecting Disney regarding not releasing OOT is pointless. No matter how you try to spin it, in the end it is entirely Disney’s fault that it is not being released. If they let Lucas put some restriction in the contract, it is their fault. If they wait because they do not want Fox to get a small percentage, it is their fault. And so on… and you can apply this to all the pathetic excuses people come up with around here.

真実

Author
Time

I think we can put the “contract” theory to bed, once and for all. John Landis said only a couple years ago that George himself told him that “Disney is going to put them out, as they were.” That’s quite an odd thing to make up / joke about, so I think it’s safe to take his word for it.

Less credible is that story from some guy on HTF (or whichever message board it was) about how Disney was going to restore the OOT in time for TFA, and then didn’t because they realized they needed more time to really get it right.

But the 2020 makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. It doesn’t make sense in terms of timing (the ST will be over by then and Ep9 will already be on blu-ray and 4k), but on the other hand that might give them a good release window to hype up and advertise the restoration.

Author
Time

Every time John Landis is brought up in this, it makes me laugh.
"But John Landis said! And he couldn’t possibly have some info wrong or have been misled! I mean, it’s JOHN freakin’ LANDIS we’re talking about here!"
I don’t mean to sound mean, but ALLOL!

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea