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I’d buy it.

No, I’m not kidding. After watching a few clips this past year, Ive decided to embrace it. At the very least, it’s an honest representation of the phenomenon that was Star Wars in the 1970s.

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They have to include the Donny and Marie SW musical or no sale. 😃

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Slavicuss said:

What else could they release - besides the original versions fully restored - in a new box-set to make us buy the saga again?

4K. That’s the selling point for all other movies that are released on 4K.

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The rest of the deleted scenes like stuff from the Celebration this year? Probably without the ones from the last set though.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Slavicuss said:

What else could they release - besides the original versions fully restored - in a new box-set to make us buy the saga again?

4K. That’s the selling point for all other movies that are released on 4K.

Not enough of a selling point for me - unless the OUT was included.

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Mocata said:

The rest of the deleted scenes like stuff from the Celebration this year? Probably without the ones from the last set though.

Throw in the HOLIDAY SPECIAL and THE LOST CUT and I’ll think about. Not buying another box-set unless the OUT is present - fully restored - yeah, I don’t ask for much.

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DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

So does anyone honestly still think that when the time eventually comes to release the OT on 4k* that Disney won’t include a restored OOT?

I mean, to the layman, do the 2011 blu-rays look that terrible when upscaled on a properly setup and calibrated 4k display? People are going to need a reason to buy these movies yet again other than higher (but not necessarily perceptible) resolution and hdr.

Maybe I’m way underestimating the demand for a 4k hdr SE, but I feel like a lot of fans are worn out from all these changes and would prefer to simply watch these films as they were.

*probably no sooner than 2020 so that Disney can keep the profits from Empire and Jedi all to themselves.

The general population doesn’t care about the changes. A great number of them have never seen anything but the SE. They don’t even know what they’re missing, and their numbers are growing every day.

All Disney would have to do is market the theatrical cuts as all new never before released cuts and those people will have their minds blown

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nickyd47 said:

DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

So does anyone honestly still think that when the time eventually comes to release the OT on 4k* that Disney won’t include a restored OOT?

I mean, to the layman, do the 2011 blu-rays look that terrible when upscaled on a properly setup and calibrated 4k display? People are going to need a reason to buy these movies yet again other than higher (but not necessarily perceptible) resolution and hdr.

Maybe I’m way underestimating the demand for a 4k hdr SE, but I feel like a lot of fans are worn out from all these changes and would prefer to simply watch these films as they were.

*probably no sooner than 2020 so that Disney can keep the profits from Empire and Jedi all to themselves.

The general population doesn’t care about the changes. A great number of them have never seen anything but the SE. They don’t even know what they’re missing, and their numbers are growing every day.

All Disney would have to do is market the theatrical cuts as all new never before released cuts and those people will have their minds blown

I’m sure many would, but the problem is that releasing the OOT would have to be a labour of love, like Mike Verta has done. Someone within the Lucasfilm/Disney conglomerate with influence needs to champion these classic films, otherwise I don’t see it happening. There’s really not much of a financial incentive to do it. I’m sure a 4K release including the OOT would do somewhat better than one without it, but how much better are we talking about, 10%? That’s nothing compared to the amount of money to be made with the release of the new films each year.

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DrDre said:

nickyd47 said:

DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

So does anyone honestly still think that when the time eventually comes to release the OT on 4k* that Disney won’t include a restored OOT?

I mean, to the layman, do the 2011 blu-rays look that terrible when upscaled on a properly setup and calibrated 4k display? People are going to need a reason to buy these movies yet again other than higher (but not necessarily perceptible) resolution and hdr.

Maybe I’m way underestimating the demand for a 4k hdr SE, but I feel like a lot of fans are worn out from all these changes and would prefer to simply watch these films as they were.

*probably no sooner than 2020 so that Disney can keep the profits from Empire and Jedi all to themselves.

The general population doesn’t care about the changes. A great number of them have never seen anything but the SE. They don’t even know what they’re missing, and their numbers are growing every day.

All Disney would have to do is market the theatrical cuts as all new never before released cuts and those people will have their minds blown

I’m sure many would, but the problem is that releasing the OOT would have to be a labour of love, like Mike Verta has done. Someone within the Lucasfilm/Disney conglomerate with influence needs to champion these classic films, otherwise I don’t see it happening. There’s really not much of a financial incentive to do it. I’m sure a 4K release including the OOT would do somewhat better than one without it, but how much better are we talking about, 10%? That’s nothing compared to the amount of money to be made with the release of the new films each year.

Well, yeah.

Disney needs to want to do this. Not because they’ll make more money off of it, but because it’s the right thing to do.

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Fang Zei said:

DrDre said:

nickyd47 said:

DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

So does anyone honestly still think that when the time eventually comes to release the OT on 4k* that Disney won’t include a restored OOT?

I mean, to the layman, do the 2011 blu-rays look that terrible when upscaled on a properly setup and calibrated 4k display? People are going to need a reason to buy these movies yet again other than higher (but not necessarily perceptible) resolution and hdr.

Maybe I’m way underestimating the demand for a 4k hdr SE, but I feel like a lot of fans are worn out from all these changes and would prefer to simply watch these films as they were.

*probably no sooner than 2020 so that Disney can keep the profits from Empire and Jedi all to themselves.

The general population doesn’t care about the changes. A great number of them have never seen anything but the SE. They don’t even know what they’re missing, and their numbers are growing every day.

All Disney would have to do is market the theatrical cuts as all new never before released cuts and those people will have their minds blown

I’m sure many would, but the problem is that releasing the OOT would have to be a labour of love, like Mike Verta has done. Someone within the Lucasfilm/Disney conglomerate with influence needs to champion these classic films, otherwise I don’t see it happening. There’s really not much of a financial incentive to do it. I’m sure a 4K release including the OOT would do somewhat better than one without it, but how much better are we talking about, 10%? That’s nothing compared to the amount of money to be made with the release of the new films each year.

Well, yeah.

Disney needs to want to do this. Not because they’ll make more money off of it, but because it’s the right thing to do.

That simply won’t happen. The only reason they’d do this if there was some sort of financial gain for them. I think it’s time we face facts: Disney aren’t interested in making a deal with Fox. If we’re lucky, the absolute earliest we’re getting them is 2020, and that’s a long way out.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

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Is it possible that Star Wars could go into the Disney Vault for a while and when it comes out it will have a full restoration? Isn’t Disney big on restoring their own classics and releasing them that way? I could see a release marketed by Disney that way being a huge seller.

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AFAIK, the ‘vault’ strategy only applies to a relatively small (and defined) collection of classic animated films. Those movies that we see coming out in ‘Diamond’ and ‘Platinum’ editions and so forth.

Their other strategy is, of course, to simply not bother transferring movies that they don’t think will sell. Black Cauldron, anyone? (On another note the complete, uncensored director’s cut of that movie still hasn’t been seen by the public).

Maybe this is where the OUT falls. But really, who knows?

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2020 sounds futuristic, but it’s pretty much around the corner. A release this close a point where they wouldn’t need to bother striking a deal with a third party would make little sense from a business standpoint, assuming there even is any interest at all to begin with.

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I guess 2020 isn’t so bad. I’ll be 47 years old and should still have reasonably good eyesight and hearing. I just don’t want them to take too long. I don’t want the OUT in 4K when I can only see in SD. At least it would be available for others.

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For one they already made a deal, when they released the digital collection, and re-released the blurays of the SE in 2015. Secondly, Fox will own Star Wars forever, so any OOT release will need to involve Fox today, in 2020 or at any other time until the copyright runs out around 2075.

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Ha, copyrights that run out! That’s a nice one.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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NeverarGreat said:

I think he meant that Disney keeps extending copyright duration so that their old titles don’t fall into the public domain.

The maximum term of copyright protection (including renewal) became 95 years in 1998 for all works published after 1964.

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DrDre said:

For one they already made a deal, when they released the digital collection, and re-released the blurays of the SE in 2015. Secondly, Fox will own Star Wars forever, so any OOT release will need to involve Fox today, in 2020 or at any other time until the copyright runs out around 2075.

It isn’t even really a deal so much as it is that Disney would finance the restoration and wouldn’t want to release it when Fox is getting the cut on all three films.

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DrDre said:

NeverarGreat said:

I think he meant that Disney keeps extending copyright duration so that their old titles don’t fall into the public domain.

The maximum term of copyright protection (including renewal) became 95 years in 1998 for all works published after 1964.

Perpetual copyright on the installment plan. I doubt we’ll ever see the year 1930 come into the public domain.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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In an ideal world, copyrights would automatically expire with no hope for renewal after thirty years. That’s time enough for the creators to make money off their creations; then it rightly belongs to the public.

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Unfortunately, we don’t live in an ideal world, we live in Disney’s world.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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ATMachine said:

Unfortunately, we don’t live in an ideal world, we live in Disney’s world.

I’d rather live in Epcot myself. :p

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ATMachine said:

Unfortunately, we don’t live in an ideal world, we live in Disney’s world.

And they like money, and releasing obscure cuts of one of the most popular trilogies of all time would give them
a ton of it. There’s something holding those cuts back. I don’t believe Disney is disinterested. I think it has
to do with who gets to make the most bank off of all the blue balled Star Wars fans