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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 412

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doubleofive said:

I believe the file was originally called “STAR_WARS_REVISITED_NTSC_DVD_9.ISO”, not sure on the hashes.

OK thanks.

That’s strange. It looks like the version on myspleen is ‘wrong’ (if you can base it on filename alone).

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SnooPac said:

doubleofive said:

I believe the file was originally called “STAR_WARS_REVISITED_NTSC_DVD_9.ISO”, not sure on the hashes.

OK thanks.

That’s strange. It looks like the version on myspleen is ‘wrong’ (if you can base it on filename alone).

i seem to remember having to redownload a few parts the first time i tried to join in seeding this file on myspleen. i had gotten the file many years before i joined the tracker. sadly this happens. Thats why i love it when people post checksums along with release announcements.

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Thanks dahmage. I guess there’s no official checksum for this.

OK I grabbed both, and extracted/mounted the ISO files, and there really aren’t many differences.

Firstly, the VIDEO_TS folders within in both ISOs are exactly 7.50GB (8,058,986,496 bytes). So that’s a good sign.
There are a few differences though:

$ diff -r mega/ spleen/
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/ADYWAN OFFICIAL: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/DOUBLEOFIVE: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/JEANCARL & RAVENSP: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/OWEN LARS KENOBI: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/SAVAGE: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/SKY_: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/SLUGGO: Thumbs.db
Only in spleen/: readme.txt
Only in mega/: Thumbs.db
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP differ
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO differ
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.BUP and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.BUP differ
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.IFO and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.IFO differ

So looks like nothing serious.
The Thumbs.db’s can be ignored I guess, as well as the readme.
Then there’s just the ifo/bup files. I’m thinking those aren’t too important either, compared to the vob files anyway? Though to be honest I don’t really know the purpose of those files on a DVD.
So I think either release is good.
👍

Still, would be nice to know I have the ‘official’ one 😃.

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SnooPac said:

Thanks dahmage. I guess there’s no official checksum for this.

OK I grabbed both, and extracted/mounted the ISO files, and there really aren’t many differences.

Firstly, the VIDEO_TS folders within in both ISOs are exactly 7.50GB (8,058,986,496 bytes). So that’s a good sign.
There are a few differences though:

$ diff -r mega/ spleen/
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/ADYWAN OFFICIAL: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/DOUBLEOFIVE: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/JEANCARL & RAVENSP: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/OWEN LARS KENOBI: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/SAVAGE: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/SKY_: Thumbs.db
Only in mega/DVD_ROM/COVERS & LABELS/SLUGGO: Thumbs.db
Only in spleen/: readme.txt
Only in mega/: Thumbs.db
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP differ
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO differ
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.BUP and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.BUP differ
Binary files mega/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.IFO and spleen/VIDEO_TS/VTS_51_0.IFO differ

So looks like nothing serious.
The Thumbs.db’s can be ignored I guess, as well as the readme.
Then there’s just the ifo/bup files. I’m thinking those aren’t too important either, compared to the vob files anyway? Though to be honest I don’t really know the purpose of those files on a DVD.
So I think either release is good.
👍

Still, would be nice to know I have the ‘official’ one 😃.

Agreed. Based on your comparison I would prefer the spleen one. Thumbs.db doesn’t belong on a proper iso in my opinion. Windows only junk.

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dahmage said:
Agreed. Based on your comparison I would prefer the spleen one. Thumbs.db doesn’t belong on a proper iso in my opinion. Windows only junk.

Yep, that’s the one I kept.
Thanks!

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A buddy texted me about Adywan’s revisited star wars a few days ago, which was great for me since ESB was released and I downloaded it. I also downloaded ANH to watch it. I will say, I am super impressed. I have the Harmy’s versions which are a superb edition that removes all the unnecessary things from the special editions Lucas has been sending out.

However, Adywan did it right! For a star was “special edition,” I liked it alot. Also from reading his posts that he will be doing an HD version of ANH with some corrections, albeit some are pretty necessary, I am excited!

Based on his list of changes, if I can add just ONE thing for his changes that he didn’t mention… it has to do with the added CG dog fight with the TIES and X-wings. I liked that a lot too. It helped add more to the scale of this battle. He can keep it in, he did well with it and I do think it matches with the style and look of the movie. BUT, it does have an awkwardness to it. The awkward is the silence. I think a “simple” fix (I have no idea how to do this, so I do apologize if it is not “simple” and is a lot of work) is to add some talking. Fortunately, with the distorted communication between the pilots “radio,” I think it can be done. There were a lot of x-wing and y-wings, so the voices would not need to be the pilots we see or hear from the movie.

By adding some lines like “one is behind you” … “TIES on Sector _____” … etc, with the distorted radio voices … I think that would do it. It would really match the whole rest of the scene since people were constantly talking. When a bunch of TIES come in … I would think there would still be a lot of chatter!

Anyway, that is it for me. All in all, this is an amazing edit. Based on the changes he will make with the HD version, it will be even more amazing.

“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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To get way ahead of ourselves, has Adywan said anything about what “Some changes to the Special Edition Mos Eisley content” might mean? I suspect that he will want to make the Dewback by the cantina consistent (as the SE reverts to 1977 Dewback when the gang exists). Perhaps a removal of the mirrored stormtrooper?

Anything that might result in even fewer CG creatures and droids will be a plus for me. 😃

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towne32 said:

To get way ahead of ourselves, has Adywan said anything about what “Some changes to the Special Edition Mos Eisley content” might mean? I suspect that he will want to make the Dewback by the cantina consistent (as the SE reverts to 1977 Dewback when the gang exists). Perhaps a removal of the mirrored stormtrooper?

Anything that might result in even fewer CG creatures and droids will be a plus for me. 😃

I recall the mirrored trooper being high on the list.

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This has probably been asked before, but why was Ponda Baba’s arm replaced with Evazan’s?

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Anakin Starkiller said:

This has probably been asked before, but why was Ponda Baba’s arm replaced with Evazan’s?

Indeed it has AS, and it’s because Obi-Wan actually cuts Evazan’s arm off due to him pulling out a blaster in the original footage.

(having said that, since the footage shows Obi-Wan swiping his lightsaber TWICE during that scene, I guess Ponda Baba’s arm also ended up on the cantina floor somewhere)

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ImperialFighter said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

This has probably been asked before, but why was Ponda Baba’s arm replaced with Evazan’s?

Indeed it has AK, and it’s because Obi-Wan actually cuts Evazan’s arm off due to him pulling out a blaster in the original footage.

(having said that, since the footage shows Obi-Wan swiping his lightsaber TWICE during that scene, I guess Ponda Baba’s arm also ended up on the cantina floor somewhere)

I think that because we don’t actually see the gun fired although there is footage for it… Basically Obi-wan deflects the doctors Laser at Walrus Man then cut’s off the doctors hand. Thus Killing Walrus and seriously maiming the Doctor who does not like anyone.

The Laser being deflected is missing even though we hear the gun go off… That is what the first swipe is for. They just forgot to rotoscope the Laser in and bouncing off. This is also why Luke trains to deflect blasters.

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They probably swapped Doctors hand for the walrus due to censorship. This is also I think the only missing element in the theatrical or special edition I can think of. Apart from Obi-wans lightsaber and the flames on the Cloak which Ady already did.

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ImperialFighter said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

This has probably been asked before, but why was Ponda Baba’s arm replaced with Evazan’s?

Indeed it has AK, and it’s because Obi-Wan actually cuts Evazan’s arm off due to him pulling out a blaster in the original footage.

(having said that, since the footage shows Obi-Wan swiping his lightsaber TWICE during that scene, I guess Ponda Baba’s arm also ended up on the cantina floor somewhere)

In the book Ponda Baba was cut in half:

In the split second when the gun and its owner’s attention was off him, the old man’s hand had moved to the disk slung at his side. The short human started to yell as a fiery blue-white light appeared in the dimness of the cantina.
He never finished the yell. It turned into a blink. When the blink was finished, the man found himself lying prone against the bar, moaning and whimpering as he stared at the stump of an arm.
In between the start of his yell and the conclusion of the blink, the rodent-thing had been cleft cleanly in half down the middle, its two halves falling in opposite directions.

And in the script:

With astounding agility old Ben’s laser sword sparks to life and in a flash an arm lies on the floor. The rodent is cut in two …

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They chopped off the Walrus head too! there is a still for it. there must have been many permutations for the sequence but the lightsaber is no where near the Walrus.

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This is not a suggestion, because obviously, but wouldn’t it make sense if these shots…
Lightbright guy
…showed lists of rebel/Imperial fighters and the lightbright guys highlighted them in red when they got destroyed.

I think it would add even more of a ticking clock, especially near the end when just about the only fighters left were those of our heroes.

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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NeverarGreat said:

This is not a suggestion, because obviously, but wouldn’t it make sense if these shots…
Lightbright guy
…showed lists of rebel/Imperial fighters and the lightbright guys highlighted them in red when they got destroyed.

I think it would add even more of a ticking clock, especially near the end when just about the only fighters left were those of our heroes.

At the very least they’re begging something of the sort that ady did to the similar panels in ESBR.

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Ronster said:

I think that because we don’t actually see the gun fired although there is footage for it… Basically Obi-wan deflects the doctors Laser at Walrus Man then cut’s off the doctors hand. Thus Killing Walrus and seriously maiming the Doctor who does not like anyone.

The Laser being deflected is missing even though we hear the gun go off… That is what the first swipe is for. They just forgot to rotoscope the Laser in and bouncing off. This is also why Luke trains to deflect blasters.

Any good?

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Jani-wan said:

In the book Ponda Baba was cut in half:

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Ronster said:

They chopped off the Walrus head too! there is a still for it. there must have been many permutations for the sequence but the lightsaber is no where near the Walrus.

Ronster, that was an interesting notion about Dr. Evazan’s laserbolt being deflected into Ponda Baba, and if that works for you, then great.

But it’s not the way I personally choose to view the inconclusive footage. Due to the positioning of all the actors, I’ve always preferred to imagine that Obi-wan makes his 1st swipe on Dr. Evazan’s RIGHT arm, as he raises his blaster…and then takes his 2nd swipe at Ponda Baba’s RIGHT arm too, because he then started to raise his blaster also.

And because various behind-the-scenes pics do confirm that Ponda Baba was originally given a blaster too (not seen onscreen), it didn’t matter to me WHICH character’s arm adywan decided to show as dismembered…as I would just imagine the OTHER arm (and blaster) had also fallen on the cantina floor somewhere offscreen.

However, I’m ALSO okay with the notion that Ponda Baba might have actually got sliced in HALF by Obi-wan’s swipe at him…as I can still imagine that his RIGHT arm was cut off at the same time if he did indeed do that! - so due to the way the footage is filmed and edited, EITHER of these scenarios work fine for me when I watch the movie.

Along with George’s decision to ultimately go with the ‘hairy hand’ prop instead of the ‘flipper’, the behind-the-scenes pics of a Ponda Baba ‘decapitated head prop’ show just how much revision was involved in this scene overall - but the REALLY head-scratching aspect for me is the fact that the Ponda Baba actor has his LEFT arm missing in this particular behind-the-scenes pic - abload.de/img/ponda2apjc2.jpg

…when in fact we end up seeing a prop of Ponda Baba’s RIGHT arm in the final shot! - vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/f1/Ponda_arm.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070326183107&path-prefix=nl

(However, while it was interesting to see Ponda Baba with his ‘hairy hand’ attached in ROGUE ONE, I reckon I’d prefer to remove that ‘coincidental cameo’ of those guys from my own ideal cutlist of the movie) 😃 - https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/a/a2/PondaEvazan.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170402092052

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Well the only thing that really draws my attention is we do hear the gun being fired… after the bar man says "no blasters’

And we do not see it so I just came to that conclusion that the laser was missing in my head. I will admit that I do make mistakes… But yeah I do not mind what anyone thinks only that it has always been a bit confusing exactly what is going on and it is probably no doubt due to the many permutations and even possibly censorship.