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Let’s button up this sequence

I decided to add a signature

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I think eyelet this go on too long.

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You can thank Mala and Alderaa for that. They traveled back in time and told George that the Death Star already prepared to fire in Star Wars, having it also prepare to fire in Jedi would be a total rehash and ruin the whole franchise.

Ceci n’est pas une signature.

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“Luke, help me tee, this must work. Just, let me lookanu, with my boomerize” - what i thought he said! 😂

When’s something gonna happen?

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If John Williams was suddenly unable to compose music for the next film for whatever reason, my first choice for a replacement would probably be Alan Silvestri. John Ottman wouldn’t be bad either.

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I really hope Williams finishes the ST, but beyond that I’d be perfectly happy to see Giacchino become a series regular. I also still want to hear Alexandre Desplat’s take.

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timdiggerm said:

Because the Avengers films have had such memorable music?

Be thankful I didn’t say Hans Zimmer or Tyler Bates lol.

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By the time Williams dies, they’ll have an algorithm set up to generate “Williams-ish” music that’s “good enough” (not actually good but not terrible so they just go with it, since it’s mostly sampling old Williams music anyway). Things get weird when the second movie they try it with starts using music from Lost in Space, and fan theorists lose their minds.

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I realize this is kind of morbid, but in The Empire Strikes Back when Luke’s hand is cut off by Vader, does it seem weird to anyone else that he doesn’t bleed more? I know George Lucas wants to keep the movies PG but if he could get a way with showing a bloody arm in A New Hope in the Mos Eisley Cantina scene and that made movie was PG, then why wasn’t there blood gushing from Luke’s wrist? I mean…come on! Really? You can’t show him smear blood on his outfit or anything while Vader tells him he’s his father? I don’t know. It’s a little morbid but it seems that scene should be bloodier.

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kellyliston2017 said:

I realize this is kind of morbid, but in The Empire Strikes Back when Luke’s hand is cut off by Vader, does it seem weird to anyone else that he doesn’t bleed more? I know George Lucas wants to keep the movies PG but if he could get a way with showing a bloody arm in A New Hope in the Mos Eisley Cantina scene and that made movie was PG, then why wasn’t there blood gushing from Luke’s wrist? I mean…come on! Really? You can’t show him smear blood on his outfit or anything while Vader tells him he’s his father? I don’t know. It’s a little morbid but it seems that scene should be bloodier.

I remember reading somewhere that the MPAA originally gave Star Wars a G rating and Lucas requested it be bumped up to PG. I’d be very curious if the G was still with everything in the finished movie (like Owen and Beru’s charred corpses and the aforementioned bloody arm) or if those shots were added later.

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Anchorhead said:

SilverWook said:
Bought some groceries at Target, and passed through the toy aisle, and what should I see? That action figure two pack with Moroff! Only one on the pegs, and sitting right in front like it was waiting for me. Impulse buy! Haven’t bought a SW figure in a long time.

Awesome. I’ve never had a Star Wars shirt or toy, but I feel like I’ll be correcting that in the coming weeks. I have my Rogue One socks as my only wearable Star Wars things ever, but I feel like I’m this close to getting a shirt.

I find that amazing you’ve never had any merchandise at all. I’ve had more than a few shirts over the years. There are so many cool shirt designs out now it puts the 70’s stuff to shame. As hard water out here eventually ate away my favorite shirts, I kept my 10th anniversary shirt in mothballs until I saw TFA. Still fits like a glove.
I’m sure modern science could explain why two printed shirts of similar fabric survived my childhood but all the others didn’t. (The iron on stuff was faded by the third wash.) Neither one is Star Wars though.

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SilverWook said:

Anchorhead said:

SilverWook said:
Bought some groceries at Target, and passed through the toy aisle, and what should I see? That action figure two pack with Moroff! Only one on the pegs, and sitting right in front like it was waiting for me. Impulse buy! Haven’t bought a SW figure in a long time.

Awesome. I’ve never had a Star Wars shirt or toy, but I feel like I’ll be correcting that in the coming weeks. I have my Rogue One socks as my only wearable Star Wars things ever, but I feel like I’m this close to getting a shirt.

I find that amazing you’ve never had any merchandise at all. I’ve had more than a few shirts over the years. There are so many cool shirt designs out now it puts the 70’s stuff to shame. As hard water out here eventually ate away my favorite shirts, I kept my 10th anniversary shirt in mothballs until I saw TFA. Still fits like a glove.
I’m sure modern science could explain why two printed shirts of similar fabric survived my childhood but all the others didn’t. (The iron on stuff was faded by the third wash.) Neither one is Star Wars though.

Yeah, I can’t remember a time when I didn’t have Star Wars merchandise. Some of my earliest memories involve playing with this:

And it’s not infrequently that I can be found sporting one of the handful of Star Wars shirts I own:

Star Wars merch is legion…It is pointless to resist!

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I had some of the Micro collection ships. The break apart feature was fun. I regret not keeping the MC Millennium Falcon sometimes. It was the only version Kenner ever made that had the belly turret gun.

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There are Star Wars movies most people on these boards haven’t seen.

There are Star Wars movies I haven’t seen, and I’ve seen all the ones released in theaters.

Who knows what movies lurk in the Disney Vault?

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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I would argue Lucas committed an “original sin” when writing Star Wars in 1975.

He’d wanted to demonstrate the Empire’s cruelty by showing the graphic aftermath of Leia’s torture in Vader’s prison. But by the end of 1975, with budget cuts pressing on him and the management at Fox doubtful about the prospects of his little space-opera film, Lucas began to panic: he’d already started thinking of SW as a story spread over multiple films, and he didn’t want it derailed at the very first outing. The failure of THX 1138_ in the movie theaters still haunted his mind.

So he decided he needed to maximize the revenue from SW to improve the prospects of a sequel. The best way to do this was by avoiding an R rating, keeping Star Wars open to all ages. The stark realities of Imperial torture, meant as a commentary on Vietnam and the US military-industrial complex, were tidied off-screen in the name of family-friendly moviegoing. It paid off: Star Wars was a massive hit at the box office.

But there were consequences. In-universe, Lucas struggled to come up with alternative ways to depict the Empire as a credible threat to the heroes. His solution, worked out during filming, was to kill off Obi-Wan on the Death Star. This in turn led to the problem of who Luke’s Jedi mentor would be in future films. And if Obi-Wan could show up as a ghost, why couldn’t Luke’s father do the same? Wouldn’t having two ghost mentors be a little crowded? This problem of story-crafting, the result of hasty alterations to the first film, ultimately led to the merging of Darth Vader and Luke’s father, who had previously been two separate characters.

And in the real world, the politics of Star Wars became so anodyne, so essentially unthreatening, that anyone could identify with the Rebels fightin against the evil Empire. Most famously, Ronald Reagan adopted this rhetoric in spades, so much so that his SDI missile defense system quickly was dubbed “Star Wars” by the press. The sort of Goldwaterite conservatism that Lucas had railed against in the early 1970s had now co-opted his film franchise in the public mind.

And no one, outside of a very small coterie, ever expected that George Lucas would make another R-rated film.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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George has never made a R rated film. THX was rated with the now defunct GP rating back in 1971, which was replaced by PG a few years later. The 1978 reissue of THX received a PG.

Only the 2004 revised version got an R. That has more to do with the MPAA’s modern hangups than George’s intentions.

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SilverWook said:

Anchorhead said:

SilverWook said:
Bought some groceries at Target, and passed through the toy aisle, and what should I see? That action figure two pack with Moroff! Only one on the pegs, and sitting right in front like it was waiting for me. Impulse buy! Haven’t bought a SW figure in a long time.

Awesome. I’ve never had a Star Wars shirt or toy, but I feel like I’ll be correcting that in the coming weeks. I have my Rogue One socks as my only wearable Star Wars things ever, but I feel like I’m this close to getting a shirt.

I find that amazing you’ve never had any merchandise at all. I’ve had more than a few shirts over the years. There are so many cool shirt designs out now it puts the 70’s stuff to shame. As hard water out here eventually ate away my favorite shirts, I kept my 10th anniversary shirt in mothballs until I saw TFA. Still fits like a glove.
I’m sure modern science could explain why two printed shirts of similar fabric survived my childhood but all the others didn’t. (The iron on stuff was faded by the third wash.) Neither one is Star Wars though.

I had every one-sheet from 1977 - 1983. Regular releases, variations, anniversaries, and teasers. Every single one except the 1976 teaser were lost in a flood about twenty years ago. I gave that teaser to my old boss before I moved to Austin. I still have a Star Wars lunch box.

Beyond that, all I have are four Rogue One pairs of socks and the awesome Star Wars Art: Ralph McQuarrie book set. Forty years - not a single shirt. Does seem kind of weird. I have seen some interesting Rogue One shirts I would like to have though. I may jump in yet. 😉

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Ouch! That’s an impressive poster collection to lose. 😦

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