4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 211

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CatBus said:
The matter has survived for 30 years on nothing more than fumes and wishful thinking. I think you underestimate the matter’s will to live.

Oh it will live on for decades to come. But only in our hearts. Your average punter will buy whatever is shoved in front of them without knowing the difference, and those numbers are what matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilqN-Q_2Vw

Leave this here. Pay homage to SSWR’s old edit, great ideas and out of the box thinking with dialogue. Especially the refurbishing of Palpatine’s line now being used as sarcasm towards windu.

*wrong thread

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Fang Zei said:

Mocata said:

If they are not doing anything right now, I don’t see how 2020 is a realistic date.

It’s simple, they don’t want to do anything other than reissuing the 2011 discs until the rights are back in their hands (with the previously noted exception of ANH, which will never be back in their hands anyway).

This is all nonsense. Releasing a new set has nothing to do with distribution rights. If that were the case, Disney would pull all copies off the shelves and just wait until 2020 to sell anything. They wouldn’t be selling the Blurays AT ALL.

Just like what happened with VHS, DVD, and Bluray, they will wait until the next technology becomes widely adopted by consumers, and then they will issue a new set with an updated master. For obvious reasons, that will most likely be after the ST is completed, so they can issue a 4k set of all the movies.

When they do issue the 4K set…3 years from now, 5 years from now, etc…it will be the SE version if it is left up to Kennedy and LFL, which it likely will be. The only way to get an official OOT release is for their bosses at Disney to order them to make it happen. The only way their bosses at Disney would ever do that is if you, the fans, call it to their attention and force them to do so. Most likely with your wallet.

Ah, so I see you’ve given up your “it will never ever ever ever ever happen no matter what ever” stance despite no new news. Interesting.

I’ve been very consistent on this topic. In the absence of the fans convincing Kennedy’s bosses to order her to release the OOT or ask for her resignation, there is zero chance you will get anything other than the SE from Disney. No OOT. Not going to happen. Ever.

If you want an official release, stop giving them your money.

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Fang Zei said:

Mocata said:

If they are not doing anything right now, I don’t see how 2020 is a realistic date.

It’s simple, they don’t want to do anything other than reissuing the 2011 discs until the rights are back in their hands (with the previously noted exception of ANH, which will never be back in their hands anyway).

This is all nonsense. Releasing a new set has nothing to do with distribution rights. If that were the case, Disney would pull all copies off the shelves and just wait until 2020 to sell anything. They wouldn’t be selling the Blurays AT ALL.

Just like what happened with VHS, DVD, and Bluray, they will wait until the next technology becomes widely adopted by consumers, and then they will issue a new set with an updated master. For obvious reasons, that will most likely be after the ST is completed, so they can issue a 4k set of all the movies.

When they do issue the 4K set…3 years from now, 5 years from now, etc…it will be the SE version if it is left up to Kennedy and LFL, which it likely will be. The only way to get an official OOT release is for their bosses at Disney to order them to make it happen. The only way their bosses at Disney would ever do that is if you, the fans, call it to their attention and force them to do so. Most likely with your wallet.

Ah, so I see you’ve given up your “it will never ever ever ever ever happen no matter what ever” stance despite no new news. Interesting.

I’ve been very consistent on this topic.

Where’s that moving the goalposts image when you need it…

NeverarGreat said:

TV’s Frink said:

Single post.

Mithrandir said:

*wrong thread

Single Post seeks Wrong Thread in the OT Forum Area

ASS?

NFBisms said:

Alderaan said:

Fang Zei said:

I didn’t say the rights issue was preventing a new release. I said they are intentionally keeping what’s coming next in their back pocket for after May of 2020 so they don’t have to share any of the profits with Fox.

Again, this doesn’t make any sense though and doesn’t hold up to the bare minimum of scrutiny. If they didn’t want to share money with Fox, they wouldn’t be selling the Blurays right now, at all. The distribution rights aren’t faintly related to the lack of OOT release in way at all.

“Not selling Star Wars anywhere, at all” is what doesn’t make sense.

Exactly.

It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.

Fang Zei said:

Exactly.

It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.

That doesn’t make any sense though. If that were the case, that wouldn’t stop them from working on such a release at the present time, which they aren’t. It can take years for a restoration on this scale to be finished, and if they aren’t going to sell it until 2020 anyway, there’s no reason for them not to get a head start on it now if that was there intent.

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fang Zei said:

Exactly.

It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.

That doesn’t make any sense though. If that were the case, that wouldn’t stop them from working on such a release at the present time, which they aren’t. It can take years for a restoration on this scale to be finished, and if they aren’t going to sell it until 2020 anyway, there’s no reason for them not to get a head start on it now if that was there intent.

How long did the Coppola Restoration of Godfather I&II take?

Even if they didn’t start working on it until 2018, two years seems like a long enough time.

Fang Zei said:

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Fang Zei said:

Exactly.

It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.

That doesn’t make any sense though. If that were the case, that wouldn’t stop them from working on such a release at the present time, which they aren’t. It can take years for a restoration on this scale to be finished, and if they aren’t going to sell it until 2020 anyway, there’s no reason for them not to get a head start on it now if that was there intent.

How long did the Coppola Restoration of Godfather I&II take?

Even if they didn’t start working on it until 2018, two years seems like a long enough time.

Whatever they DO do, IF they do anything, it’ll be quiet and on the quick-and-semi-cheap anyway. Hopefully not as bad as the GOUT, but I wouldn’t expect much more. It won’t be treated like some big flagship project—it’ll just be a limited staff preparing what will essentially be a special feature.

Fang Zei said:

NFBisms said:

Alderaan said:

Fang Zei said:

I didn’t say the rights issue was preventing a new release. I said they are intentionally keeping what’s coming next in their back pocket for after May of 2020 so they don’t have to share any of the profits with Fox.

Again, this doesn’t make any sense though and doesn’t hold up to the bare minimum of scrutiny. If they didn’t want to share money with Fox, they wouldn’t be selling the Blurays right now, at all. The distribution rights aren’t faintly related to the lack of OOT release in way at all.

“Not selling Star Wars anywhere, at all” is what doesn’t make sense.

Exactly.

It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.

I don’t buy the idea of a huge spike in profits. The OOT has become relic of the past, mostly desired by purists. If anything interest for them seems to be waning with each year that passes.

DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

NFBisms said:

Alderaan said:

Fang Zei said:

I didn’t say the rights issue was preventing a new release. I said they are intentionally keeping what’s coming next in their back pocket for after May of 2020 so they don’t have to share any of the profits with Fox.

Again, this doesn’t make any sense though and doesn’t hold up to the bare minimum of scrutiny. If they didn’t want to share money with Fox, they wouldn’t be selling the Blurays right now, at all. The distribution rights aren’t faintly related to the lack of OOT release in way at all.

“Not selling Star Wars anywhere, at all” is what doesn’t make sense.

Exactly.

It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.

I don’t buy the idea of a huge spike in profits. The OOT has become relic of the past, mostly desired by purists. If anything interest for them seems to be waning with each year that passes.

Well, I’m convinced they’re going to wait until the 4k UHD release to include the OOT, and they’re definitely going to wait until at least 2020 for the 4k release.

They aren’t going to do anything. Disney is going to keep making **** movies, you’re going to keep paying to see them and then buy them on Bluray, you’re going to accidentally catch the SEs on TV when you’re flipping the channels some holiday weekend, and when 2020 comes around and you still don’t have the OOT, you’re going to shrug and tell everyone IT JUST HAS TO BE coming out for the 50th anniversary.

I only saw TFA and RO once each in the theater, in regular-sized 2D, and didn’t buy RO on blu-ray.

Meanwhile, I’ve still never bought any iteration of the I-VI blu-rays.

The amount of money I’ve spent on anything else Star Wars over the last several years is precisely zero.

Don’t blame me.

Not blaming you. It was more of a general “you”.

Listen Fang, here’s the deal. I’m going to tell you like it is, ok? George Lucas doesn’t like the original original trilogy. They weren’t his movies, never were, not the ones he wanted to make anyway. The Star Wars that he wanted to make…everyone told him it sucked. He had to get help with the script. The studio told him the movie had to be like this, it had to be like that. He said fine, since it wasn’t going to get made any other way. He lived with it. He made a lot of money, and that was that.

When he got the chance later on, he made the SEs. Some fixes were practical, others were him ****ing up the movies in the ways he wanted to **** them up 40 years ago, but more sensible people told him no. Now he is a billionaire and nobody tells him no anymore. He made the movies that he likes, and resents the fact that you and I like the originals that he does not like, and he only very begrudgingly gave them to us in faded, washed out, DNRd, non-anamorphic generation-old LD transfers because who the fuck would want to watch them anyways? Certainly not George Lucas.

Now George is no longer around. Kathleen Kennedy is. That’s George’s woman at LFL and Disney. She’s not going to touch those movies. She probably doesn’t care, and even if she did, she’s not going to piss off George. There is zero chance, none, never, that she will release the OOT. The only people who have the power to make it happen are her bosses at Disney. Any day…today, tomorrow…they can call her up on the phone, walk into her office, and say hey Kathleen, we’re greenlighting a new project. We want to give the fans the OOT. She would either comply or resign, but one way or another we would finally get what we want.

You know why that’s unlikely to happen? Because Disney is making a lot of money on the crap they are selling right now. It’s garbage. It’s junk. But like vulture, I mean venture capitalists, they bought the Star Wars carcass and they are going to chop it up and sell it in a million different slices and styles. They aren’t going to give you new movies. They aren’t going to give you new ideas. They aren’t going to sell you anything you haven’t seen before. They are going to give you rehash after rehash after spinoff, until they have made as much money as possible and until there is no longer any meat left on that damn bone.

You know what is the one thing that could upset that apple cart? Pissing off George Lucas. Getting into a war with him and his sycophants. Disney doesn’t want no bad press. They don’t want all those George Lucas fans who spend 12 hours a day on TFN cutting back on their SW purchases. They don’t want you guys only going to see Lost Jedi 4 times instead of 12. They don’t want you not buying the next Saga issue with deleted scenes you’ve probably already seen before, just because maybe there is some bad blood in the water.

As long as people keep watching and buying their brain-dead ripoffs, there will be no OOT.

And the argument that buying a ticket to The Last Jedi will stop the OOT from ever coming out is insanely stupid.

JawsTDS said:

TV’s Frink said:

And the argument that buying a ticket to The Last Jedi will stop the OOT from ever coming out is insanely stupid.

Don’t you mean The LOST Jedi?

Mall Intercom: This is security, we have a lost Jedi, I repeat, we have a lost Jedi. Anyone who may have lost their Jedi, please come to the south entrance to reclaim him/her.

So few people even know anything about the special edition changes. Of the few who do know about them, I am surprised how few really care. You’d think changes to such a beloved trilogy of movies and the suppression of the original versions would send the large passionate fan base into a frenzy.

Nope.

Pretty quiet.

While standing in various lines at Star Wars Celebration, I was surprised how other fans didn’t want to chat about the possibility of an OUT release, even during the 40th anniversary of the original. I even got a few eye rolls. I could barely believe it. Nothing is going to change anytime soon, which means the desire for the original versions is just going to become more and more obscure because the vast majority doesn’t even know and the few who do don’t even care.

Lucas succeeded. He changed history.

I don’t think it’s going to happen. Ever. Enjoy your fan made projects. My Harmy blu-rays have a place of honor among my collection. Disney/Lucasfilm and the majority of fans are more concerned with the new movies now. I love the new movies too, but it is a shame we have forgotten where they came from. The number of people who care about the OUT is only going to decrease.