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The best way, I found to make an MKV from a BD with multiple crawl, or seemless branching in general (tested with the official BDs, not this but I’d assume it would be the same) is to import not the m2ts files into the muxing program, but the playlist file corresponding to the version you want.

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Agreed, Harmy. It would’ve saved me multiple steps to get where I am now at least. As it is, I’m working from a new, movie-only ISO I made through tsmuxer, so up to that point nothing’s actually been reencoded. I tried MakeMKV, but I haven’t done a screenshot comparison yet. Looks good from what I can see though, with grain apparently untouched and a file size of 29.9 GB.

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Hagdorm said:

Agreed, Harmy. It would’ve saved me multiple steps to get where I am now at least. As it is, I’m working from a new, movie-only ISO I made through tsmuxer, so up to that point nothing’s actually been reencoded. I tried MakeMKV, but I haven’t done a screenshot comparison yet. Looks good from what I can see though, with grain apparently untouched and a file size of 29.9 GB.

If your computer didn’t spend hours encoding anything, and it only remuxed it, you don’t need to worry about video quality. As long as all the audio is there, and the two videos (crawl/rest) are playing nicely, it sounds like you should be in good shape.

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Wow, kudos to all the folks here doing what they can to preserve movie history. Getting Harmy’s Jedi grindhouse scan makes me jealous that the Negative1 scans are only in 2.0

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towne32 said:

If your computer didn’t spend hours encoding anything, and it only remuxed it, you don’t need to worry about video quality. As long as all the audio is there, and the two videos (crawl/rest) are playing nicely, it sounds like you should be in good shape.

Yeah, but I want an MKV as well, lol (I really don’t know why, I just kinda do). RU.08’s suggestion seems to be spot on though. The file is a little smaller, but I couldn’t detect any difference in quality between screenshots, even zoomed in. I may revisit this by adding in the 1985 LD track though, because I miss Threepio’s tractor beam line. I assume that VHS releases were the same audio as the LD, weren’t they? I remember that line and it felt a little odd when I got my copy of the GOUT when it first came out that it wasn’t there. With that audio track and the 81 crawl, this will truly be the version of SW I fell in love with as a kid.

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Hagdorm said:

The file is a little smaller, but I couldn’t detect any difference in quality between screenshots, even zoomed in.

Ah, yes. That’s just due to the differences in overhead space in an m2ts vs mkv container. Perfectly normal. And perfectly frustrating if you’re converting in the other direction and think you’ve got something that fits on a disc…

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towne32 said:

Ah, yes. That’s just due to the differences in overhead space in an m2ts vs mkv container. Perfectly normal. And perfectly frustrating if you’re converting in the other direction and think you’ve got something that fits on a disc…

I figured something like that was going on. That’s a pretty big variance really, from 33.9 down to 29.9. Now on to make yet another version to add the LD audio. I think I can understand Lucas’ tinkering to an extent now, lol.

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Harmy said:

The best way, I found to make an MKV from a BD with multiple crawl, or seemless branching in general (tested with the official BDs, not this but I’d assume it would be the same) is to import not the m2ts files into the muxing program, but the playlist file corresponding to the version you want.

That’s true, but Makemkv does a better job at joining multiple M2TS files than mkvtoolnix in my experience. Mkvtoolnix gives some error frames at joined points sometimes for some reason (I’m pretty sure it did this on one of my Alien discs, so now I only use MakeMKV to convert .MPLS to .MKV).

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RU.08’s suggestion seems to be spot on though. The file is a little smaller, but I couldn’t detect any difference in quality between screenshots, even zoomed in.

That’d be because it’s exactly the same file, but in a different container. The extra size on the BD is mostly just the other crawl, the extras on the disc, and the menus.

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Yeah, but I want an MKV as well, lol (I really don’t know why, I just kinda do).

Well I know why I want it, so I can stream it from my PC to my TV. Much more convenient than using a Bluray player that might skip, pause, and do all sorts of nonsense while playing!

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RU.08 said:

Well I know why I want it, so I can stream it from my PC to my TV. Much more convenient than using a Bluray player that might skip, pause, and do all sorts of nonsense while playing!

Either you need a better player or I need a better router. Maybe both.

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Well, the file was smaller because it turns out that MakeMKV filtered out all but the 5.1 audio. So…here we go again, lol.

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RU.08 said:

Harmy said:

The best way, I found to make an MKV from a BD with multiple crawl, or seemless branching in general (tested with the official BDs, not this but I’d assume it would be the same) is to import not the m2ts files into the muxing program, but the playlist file corresponding to the version you want.

That’s true, but Makemkv does a better job at joining multiple M2TS files than mkvtoolnix in my experience. Mkvtoolnix gives some error frames at joined points sometimes for some reason (I’m pretty sure it did this on one of my Alien discs, so now I only use MakeMKV to convert .MPLS to .MKV).

I usually join using TSMuxer v1.12 (versions 2.xx don’t work as well for this) before using mkvtoolnix. That eliminates the errors.

If I had some gum, I’d chew a hole into the sun…

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As to the discussion about blu-rays skipping and whatnot I have to say I prefer using BDs for my downloads. I find them more reliable than streaming or using external hard drive…

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wanted to join specifically to say thanks to those that made these releases happen. I stumbled upon the V1.0 of SSE on myspleen a while back and loved it, just grabbing 1.6 now saw a lot of people for pages asking for invites, thanks again!

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I’m very new to this. Is it still possible to download the SSE? I downloaded Harmy’s v2.5 using JDownloader or something a while back, and that is the extent of my knowledge of being able to do this.

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Hi all. I’m kind of late to the party but I was really hoping to get a link for version 1.6. I don’t have any of the earlier editions, and from what I’m reading 1.6 is the most up to date. I’ve tried Google but no luck. Thanks.

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Hi, first post here. I had found Hammy’s version and thought that was that. THE only version. One year later I somehow found out there are several projects, this being the one I have most interest in as it comes from the reels and not bluray edits. But for the life of me, I can’t figure out how get it.What is even worse this thread is from 2012 and there are no release details that I can find on 170 pages. It is just too much information. For the love of Star Wars OT, where do I get this? I’m dying here guys…

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rodofshadows said:

For the love of Star Wars OT, where do I get this? I’m dying here guys…

Well, then stop your dying and start reading those 170 pages.

Or, you can open a Google search engine and type this

site:originaltrilogy.com

make a space, then type…

the name of this thread

make a space and then type…

your question.

There’s bound to be many folks asking this same question. Out of those people, one person gets his question answered.

So, you have a choice:

Be richer with knowledge and do the former option, or have a quick answer and do the latter.

Either way, you’ll win.

Good luck.

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To the seasoned members here: feel free to use to quote in other FAQ on other threads.

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Also, the reason for the sarcastic sounding response from alexp above is that there is honestly no chance in all of this discussion that WHERE to get this project could have been skipped. It is talked about or mentioned or, at the very least, hinted about almost all the time, you’ll figure it out. We know people want the quick and easy path, but you know where that leads… Yep, it leads to not learning anything, where did you think it led?

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It’s on the pirate bay.

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Could someone please PM me a link to the non-corrupted version 1.6? I’ve only been able to locate the paradox version, which is incomplete and corrupted. Thanks, and may the Force be with you!

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Anyone else think Harmy’s DeSpecialized version looks better than this? The silver screen version is still cool to have, but I prefer watching the Despecialized edition.