Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 80

Huh, its hard after the first 2.

1. ESB, But this kinda comes with the idea that in ESB, ALOT of time passes, even though it doesnt feel like it to me.
2. SW
3. ROTJ, sure i like space battles
4. The Clone Wars (All), it… messes up some continuity, but I thought it provided good story, and I like some depth. Its odd that characters show up and then later, like, Chewbacca doesn’t seem interested in sharing his past. I guess this is still considered cannon? I have not seen rebels.
5. Rouge One, I struggle with the pace of it. I feel like in the first half of the movie must have had decent time pass.
6. TPM, Midichlorians are dumb, but, a lot of SW is political stuff, and it establishes that. Its close for me between Rouge and this.
7. TFA, again pacing of this movie bothers me. But, this ones rating will come into how it ties things together with the rest of the movies. A good real twist and maybe the sequel trilogy will move up.
   8-9. ROTS, AOTC, so these 2 don’t really add much to the story. We essentially know whats going to happen. Maybe the only real element is it tells us what happened to all the jedi.

chyron8472 said:

@yotsuya
Several of those questions about TFA are answered in the book. That is, if you care you know the answers to them, but you probably don’t.

Stuff like the relationship between the New Republic and the Resistance and why Han and Chewie found the Falcon so fast is explained in the movie as well. Also a line or two isn’t enough to please everyone. Some people needs things to be fleshed out a little more.

Double post

ESB
SW
TFA
ROTJ
TPM = AOTC = ROTS = R1

I tried to figure out a ranking of the prequels and R1, but then I realized that I never want to watch any of those movies again. R1 may be better directed, but its story and characters are just as boring as those of the prequels.

Lord Haseo said:

chyron8472 said:

@yotsuya
Several of those questions about TFA are answered in the book. That is, if you care you know the answers to them, but you probably don’t.

Stuff like the relationship between the New Republic and the Resistance and why Han and Chewie found the Falcon so fast is explained in the movie as well. Also a line or two isn’t enough to please everyone. Some people needs things to be fleshed out a little more.

A slightly different opening crawl, a different selection of scenes (some of the stuff was filmed but cut… the BR does not have even a fraction of the deleted scenes and doesn’t have any of the good ones) and just a tiny bit more logical thought and this movie could have been error free and great. But that isn’t Abrams style. And no one should have to read the book to understand the movie. There is nothing in the movie about the republic having rotating capitals, nothing about it having a tiny fleet. Some of this can be inferred, but mostly it just doesn’t make sense. Abrams gave us the characters, the environment, but he failed to deliver the scope. His Star Wars is small. Lucas’s Star Wars is epic in scale. He has the First Order destroy one system and makes it sound like they destroyed the Republic. In Lucas’s Star Wars, Coruscant could be wiped out and the fleet would still exist, the regional governments would still exist. And the entire section of Rey and Finn escaping on the Falcon is full of holes. How did they evade the Star Destroyer? Were they not tracking their ships on the surface? The Falcon should have been chased out of the atmosphere and jumped to hyperspace and then the hyperdrive fails and dumps them someplace for Han and Chewy to find (that could have been done in the current running time). As it stands they fly into space and Han and Chewy pick them up instead of the New Order. What were Han and Chewy doing at Jakku and why didn’t the Star Destroyer bother them? So many inconsistencies in once scene that it give me a headache. And then when the Starkiller fires, that just makes no sense. The Death Star at least was near its target. No mention of why Starkiller can just shoot and the system gets destroyed. No logic how Han and Finn could see it happening (the single most fantastic, unscientific, and unrealistic event in all 8 movies). Abrams gets and A for set design and characters, but an F for story.

I can sit and watch TFA but it’s a huge mess in terms of basic script elements. One TIE Fighter destroys all the turbo lasers on a capital ship? It had like two or three? Someone had to be told to use missiles? Would they have forgotten they were there if the order wasn’t given? It’s hilariously hair brained for most of the running time.

yotsuya said:

Lord Haseo said:

chyron8472 said:

@yotsuya
Several of those questions about TFA are answered in the book. That is, if you care you know the answers to them, but you probably don’t.

Stuff like the relationship between the New Republic and the Resistance and why Han and Chewie found the Falcon so fast is explained in the movie as well. Also a line or two isn’t enough to please everyone. Some people needs things to be fleshed out a little more.

A slightly different opening crawl, a different selection of scenes (some of the stuff was filmed but cut… the BR does not have even a fraction of the deleted scenes and doesn’t have any of the good ones) and just a tiny bit more logical thought and this movie could have been error free and great. But that isn’t Abrams style. And no one should have to read the book to understand the movie. There is nothing in the movie about the republic having rotating capitals, nothing about it having a tiny fleet. Some of this can be inferred, but mostly it just doesn’t make sense. Abrams gave us the characters, the environment, but he failed to deliver the scope. His Star Wars is small. Lucas’s Star Wars is epic in scale. He has the First Order destroy one system and makes it sound like they destroyed the Republic. In Lucas’s Star Wars, Coruscant could be wiped out and the fleet would still exist, the regional governments would still exist.

You got me on the fleet part but beyond that reading the novelization isn’t necessary.

And the entire section of Rey and Finn escaping on the Falcon is full of holes. How did they evade the Star Destroyer?

Same way Luke evaded the small fleet that surrounded the Hoth System…no one really knows but at least in this case there is only one Star Destroyer vs many with the addition of a Super Star Destroyer/s.

Were they not tracking their ships on the surface?

That’s a thing in SW? Since when?

The Falcon should have been chased out of the atmosphere and jumped to hyperspace and then the hyperdrive fails and dumps them someplace for Han and Chewy to find (that could have been done in the current running time).

Admittedly that’s how I would have written it but that doesn’t mean the way it was done doesn’t work.

As it stands they fly into space and Han and Chewy pick them up instead of the New Order. What were Han and Chewy doing at Jakku and why didn’t the Star Destroyer bother them?

I think they were somewhere else when they finally tracked down the Falcon. This does however continue the problem of Hyperspace being inconsistent but it’s whatever as this is a problem that will never be fixed.

EDIT:

I just remembered the one guy on Yavin IV who tracked ships with some device and that scene in ESB where Vader tells someone to monitor Skywalker and allow him to land. But I don’t remember if they spotted his ship or tracked it. And if they tracked it when exactly did he pop up on their scanners? Rey and Finn were far beyond the atmosphere of Jakku so it’s possible the scanners don’t have that type of range.

Not exactly sure what happened here…

ray_afraid said:

Reading a novelization for “more info and goodies than what was in the final films” is fine, but no one should have to read the novelization to make sense of what’s going on in the film. The film should give the audience all the information they need.

+1 million

1. Revenge of the Sith
2. A New Hope
3. The Phantom Menace
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Return of the Jedi
6. The Force Awakens
7. Attack of the Clones
8. Rogue One

Blender order returns!

You missed April Fool’s Day by a few days.

Handman said:

1. Revenge of the Sith
2. A New Hope
3. The Phantom Menace
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Return of the Jedi
6. The Force Awakens
7. Attack of the Clones
8. Rogue One

Why is Rogue One last out of curiosity?

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. The Force Awakens
4. Star Wars
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5. Rogue One

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/891104

DominicCobb said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/891104

He probably changed his mind after watching a video review of the series.

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/891104

He probably changed his mind after watching a video review of the series.

Wasn’t aware the Truth ™ could be changed.

That just goes to show you don’t understand it.

TK-949 said:

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. The Force Awakens
4. Star Wars
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5. Rogue One

You might as well not put Rogue One on the list if you’re going to have such a huge gap between that and the next film lol

I doubt I’ll ever understand Rogue One hate.