Random Thoughts — Page 537

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.

edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.

You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/02/27/most-shocking-moment-in-oscars-history-presenters-call-the-wrong-winner-for-best-picture/?utm_term=.9fcb0f2d1bb0

Well I don’t know what the hell happened, cause on camera they pulled the card right out of Beatty’s hands and it said “Moonlight” on it. I know he claimed the card he had said “La La Land”, but on camera they pulled the card right out of his hand and showed it to the camera and it said “Moonlight”. Either way, Beatty still looked off to me, either somewhat drunk or somewhat high.

Or old?

I didn’t actually watch the end so I didn’t see it, but you are the first person I’ve heard say the card had Moonlight on it. Did anyone else see this? Every story I’ve read said he was given the wrong envelope.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/media/pwc-oscars-best-picture.html

He explained it himself when it happened. There are apparently two envelopes for every category, and he was mistakenly given the second envelope for the previous category (Best Actress - Emma Stone). You see when he reads it he got confused. He was probably unsure of what to do and showed it to Dunaway to be like “what’s happening here?” and she saw La La Land and just said that.

I know all that, I’m wondering if anyone else can back up Warb’s assertion that the card he was given said Moonlight.

I don’t think it can be backed up because that’s not what happened.

Warbler said:

You can’t tell which guy is holding that?

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.

Technically it had a theatrical run. I do think it’s a bit of a cheat, but it’s still an incredible work.

I agree, it’s an incredible work. But they gave it a theatrical run just to make it eligible and that is dumb. Is it fair to other movies that it could be eight hours long?

And Zootopia winning seems really dumb - even though I haven’t seen it.

Well then why call it dumb?

Just a assumption, honestly. Wouldn’t be surprised if I’m wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlbulzhGQs&feature=youtu.be&t=17s

Warbler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlbulzhGQs&feature=youtu.be&t=17s

That was not the first card he read.

How do you now that?

It was in his hands!

So every single news source is lying or mistaken?

How do you know I’m wrong?

What’s more likely, that he was accidentally given the wrong envelope and then given the right one a few minutes later after everyone realized the mistake, or he made up an elaborate story that every single person but you (including all the news media) believed?

I can’t even believe this is a discussion.

*sigh*

YOU CAN’T PROVE WHAT WAS IN THAT ENVELOPE

doubleofive said:

Imagine if he was handed the Best Makeup card again…

Speaking of which, Kate McKinnon was unsurprisingly great.

TV’s Frink said:

YOU CAN’T PROVE WHAT WAS IN THAT ENVELOPE

Well could if someone took and showed the contents right on camera . . . oh wait . . . That is exactly what happened!

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

YOU CAN’T PROVE WHAT WAS IN THAT ENVELOPE

Well could if someone took and showed the contents right on camera . . . oh wait . . . That is exactly what happened!

That was a different card.

Come on now.

Holy shit dude, that was the correct envelope, given to him AFTER all the confusion happened…AFTER he read from the incorrect envelope the first time.

If you have a valid reason why no one else but you figured out this grand conspiracy, I’d love to hear it.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/27/oscars-mix-up/

After the ceremonies concluded, Oscars vote tallying firm Price Waterhouse Cooper released a statement apologizing to those affected:

"We sincerely apologize to “Moonlight,” “La La Land,” Warren Beatty, Faye Dunaway, and Oscar viewers for the error that was made during the award announcement for Best Picture. The presenters had mistakenly been given the wrong category envelope and when discovered, was immediately corrected. We are currently investigating how this could have happened, and deeply regret that this occurred.

We appreciate the grace with which the nominees, the Academy, ABC, and Jimmy Kimmel handled the situation."

Do you really think PWC would go along with a lie like this given how bad it makes them look?

Apparently Jordan Horowitz (the guy holding the correct card in your gif and video) is also lying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/movies/oscars-best-picture-moonlight-academy-awards.html

Jordan Horowitz knew something was wrong the moment he saw people in headsets scurrying across the Oscars stage.

Only a minute earlier Faye Dunaway had said the words that Mr. Horowitz had longed to hear — “La La Land” — as she announced the best picture winner for the 2017 Academy Awards. Mr. Horowitz, a producer on that film, and colleagues and cast members raced to the stage. Mr. Horowitz spoke first — “Thank you to the academy,” he began — but his excitement quickly dissipated, as he recalled the shocking end to the night in an interview with The New York Times after the ceremony.

“I’m holding the envelope and the award, and I had just given my speech, and there are people on the stage with headsets, and I thought, ‘That doesn’t seem right,’” Mr. Horowitz said at the Governors Ball, the official post-Oscars celebration.

“They asked to see my envelope, which I haven’t opened,” he recalled. “Clearly something was wrong. They open my envelope, and it says ‘Emma Stone, “La La Land.”’ So clearly something is not right. The guys in headsets were going around with urgency looking for the other envelope — it just kind of appeared,” he said. “One of the guys opens it, and it says ‘Moonlight,’ and I took it onstage and went to the microphone and said what I said.”

And now that we’ve (hopefully) settled that, here’s this thing.

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/march-mammal-madness-is-the-only-bracket-you-need-1792790520

TV’s Frink said:

Apparently Jordan Horowitz (the guy holding the correct card in your gif and video) is also lying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/movies/oscars-best-picture-moonlight-academy-awards.html

Jordan Horowitz knew something was wrong the moment he saw people in headsets scurrying across the Oscars stage.

Only a minute earlier Faye Dunaway had said the words that Mr. Horowitz had longed to hear — “La La Land” — as she announced the best picture winner for the 2017 Academy Awards. Mr. Horowitz, a producer on that film, and colleagues and cast members raced to the stage. Mr. Horowitz spoke first — “Thank you to the academy,” he began — but his excitement quickly dissipated, as he recalled the shocking end to the night in an interview with The New York Times after the ceremony.

“I’m holding the envelope and the award, and I had just given my speech, and there are people on the stage with headsets, and I thought, ‘That doesn’t seem right,’” Mr. Horowitz said at the Governors Ball, the official post-Oscars celebration.

“They asked to see my envelope, which I haven’t opened,” he recalled. “Clearly something was wrong. They open my envelope, and it says ‘Emma Stone, “La La Land.”’ So clearly something is not right. The guys in headsets were going around with urgency looking for the other envelope — it just kind of appeared,” he said. “One of the guys opens it, and it says ‘Moonlight,’ and I took it onstage and went to the microphone and said what I said.”

*sigh*

I sincerely apologize to Frink and the other posters and viewers of this thread for the errors that were made during my posts. I had been mistakenly convinced by the video that the category envelope Beatty originally had was the same one that was taken from him and displayed on camera and when discovered, this was unfortunately not immediately corrected. I am currently investigating how this could have happened, and deeply regret that this occurred.

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.

Technically it had a theatrical run. I do think it’s a bit of a cheat, but it’s still an incredible work.

I agree, it’s an incredible work. But they gave it a theatrical run just to make it eligible and that is dumb. Is it fair to other movies that it could be eight hours long?

Long movies have been nominated and awarded in the past. My issue is more that the majority of people saw this on ESPN or Hulu as a five part series. That doesn’t seem right.

And Zootopia winning seems really dumb - even though I haven’t seen it.

Well then why call it dumb?

Just a assumption, honestly. Wouldn’t be surprised if I’m wrong.

I’ll just say Zootopia is definitely not a “dumb” film.

I don’t watch the Oscars. I don’t care about the Oscars.

And that’s my random thought for the day.

Tobar said:

Zootopia was a decent film but Moana was the better of their two films. That said, of them all, Kubo and the Two Strings should have won this year. Instead it’s just another year and another disappointment from the Academy voters.

I too preferred Moana (and still need to see Kubo), but I don’t think Zootopia was completely undeserving.