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I’ve lived with ROTS for several years now, pulling it apart and putting it back together in a (hopefully) much more humorous way, and I still don’t see Hayden when I watch the OT. I just don’t think of the PT having anything to do with the OT. Hayden is not Vader, he’s a pale hollow imitation of Vader.

When I’m eating real crab, I’m not thinking of imitation crab meat because I ate it two months prior.

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How are you going with that, by the way? My son’s dad’s birthday is coming up soon.

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doubleKO said:

How are you going with that, by the way? My son’s dad’s birthday is coming up soon.

Oh sorry, didn’t realize. I’ll get started right away.

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People saying they see Hayden when they watch the OT is surprising (well, ROTJSE aside). I find it impossible to reconcile his portrayal with the Vader character. Which is actually a failure on Lucas’s part, as his goal was to make you think of Anakin when watching the OT. But the portrayals are so disparate so as to practically be two completely different characters with very little in common. I find it as hard to see Hayden when I look at Vader as the other way around, even though it’s not supposed to be that way.

So no, thankfully Hayden does not ruin the OT for me. I don’t even know how that’d be possible.

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TV’s Frink said:

When I’m eating real crab, I’m not thinking of imitation crab meat because I ate it two months prior.

Right. When I’m eating a great burger, thoughts of yesterdays lunch from McDonnalds won’t spoil the meal.

Hell, if anything, it’ll make me enjoy the quality burger even more.

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DominicCobb said:

People saying they see Hayden when they watch the OT is surprising (well, ROTJSE aside). I find it impossible to reconcile his portrayal with the Vader character. Which is actually a failure on Lucas’s part, as his goal was to make you think of Anakin when watching the OT. But the portrayals are so disparate so as to practically be two completely different characters with very little in common. I find it as hard to see Hayden when I look at Vader as the other way around, even though it’s not supposed to be that way.

So no, thankfully Hayden does not ruin the OT for me. I don’t even know how that’d be possible.

I do not think anyone said they see Vader as Hayden in terms of character. The point was that memories of PT subconsciously pop up while watching OT and it can be annoying. A nice example where it happens is when Obi-Wan tells Luke about Jedi, Republic and Clone Wars.

I don’t know, maybe some people have really weak brain processing and their neural networks do not associate things that well. Even though it has been 10-15 years since I saw PT, it was a “traumatic” experience and memories are particularly strong.

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TV’s Frink said:

When I’m eating real crab, I’m not thinking of imitation crab meat because I ate it two months prior.

Right. When I’m eating a great burger, thoughts of yesterdays lunch from McDonnalds won’t spoil the meal.

Hell, if anything, it’ll make me enjoy the quality burger even more.

I will readjust this analogy to be correct for the given example. Imagine ordering a burger and someone put shit inside it without you noticing it and then you notice it while you already ate half. It would be a traumatic memory and I guarantee you will be reminded of it whenever you see a burger or even just hear a word “burger”.

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My brain is working well enough that I can separate two movies from each other rather easily. I could think about how the PT represented the Clone Wars when they’re mentioned - or I could choose to imagine they’re something completely different.

I don’t consider the PT “traumatic” because my mind isn’t that fragile.

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DominicCobb said:

My brain is working well enough that I can separate two movies from each other rather easily. I could think about how the PT represented the Clone Wars when they’re mentioned - or I could choose to imagine they’re something completely different.

Well it is obviously not working well enough for you to understand the difference between concious separation of some concepts in two films and subconscious association to memories. That is despite my explicit explanation in the previous post.

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imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

My brain is working well enough that I can separate two movies from each other rather easily. I could think about how the PT represented the Clone Wars when they’re mentioned - or I could choose to imagine they’re something completely different.

Well it is obviously not working well enough for you to understand the difference between concious separation of some concepts in two films and subconscious association to memories. That is despite my explicit explanation in the previous post.

Well it’s not like the memories don’t ever come up, it’s just that I can dismiss them fairly easily.

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I was delighted to learn of Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s involvement. I finally saw Fleabag a couple weeks ago and it really floored me. I have no idea how she’ll fit into the Star Wars universe, but I’m excited to find out.

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joefavs said:

I was delighted to learn of Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s involvement. I finally saw Fleabag a couple weeks ago and it really floored me. I have no idea how she’ll fit into the Star Wars universe, but I’m excited to find out.

I’ve only seen her in a couple things but she’s got talent.

I heard a rumor about what kind of role she’d be playing, and I think, if true, it’d be pretty cool.

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On the odd occasion Hayden comes to mind, it doesn’t spoil the OT at all, it just briefly annoys me and “pollutes the experience” exactly like imperialscum said. It has nothing to do with seeing Vader as Hayden. When I read a good analogy, the analogies here won’t spoil that for me either. ;)

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I’m hearing talk that the title will be revealed at this year’s D23, which sounds about right for a may 2018 release. I hope they go the Brian Daley route and do some version of “Han Solo and the . . .”

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Han Solo and the Movie About Han Solo

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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joefavs said:

I’m hearing talk that the title will be revealed at this year’s D23, which sounds about right for a may 2018 release. I hope they go the Brian Daley route and do some version of “Han Solo and the . . .”

This would be pretty smart for a number of reasons, actually.

I have a feeling, if the film is well received, they’ll be making more.

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I think there might even be a chance a Solo sequel will be the third anthology film, hence why they still haven’t announced what that’ll be yet.

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A Han Solo/Boba Fett movie would also cover a lot of bases.

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^Which I’ll completely pass on if they use whatshisname who was Jango and SEBoba.

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Who thinks Boba Fett, Jabba the Hutt and Vader will appear in this?

I think the real reason that Han Solo has such an attachment with the Falcon, is because he lost friends near to him on that ship.

I hope the Falcon looks a little different, as he made a lot of modifications to that ship. I pray they get that right. I see the cockpit inside looks different, that’s good.

I also hope that from day one, the Falcon still has hyperdrive issues and just shuts down all the time. I can see Woody asking Han, “You still haven’t fixed that thing?”

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Han and Jabba seem to have a long history. (One reason Jabba gives him more time to pay him back in the original film.) So, having the Hutt appear isn’t out of the question. I don’t want to repeat a related rumor I’ve heard, as we don’t have a spoiler thread for this yet.

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