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_Shorty said:

You’ll note “byte” and “hertz” are different words that mean different things, too.

I don’t see your point. Hertz and metre are different too and yet the “Kilo” is still a multiple of 1000. Anyway my point is that the same prefix has a different meaning when ideally it should have the same meaning regardless of the quantity or the nature of the quantity in question.

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Overall having unit prefixes for computer storage in base 2 makes sense. A unit prefix denoting 1000 bytes is pretty useless due to the nature of the byte itself. The problem I have is the naming convention. Having a prefix that means different things in different contexts is confusing to say the least. And since every other intellectual field uses the SI definition of “Kilo”, “Mega” etc. the onus is on the computing world to resolve the issue.

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Tyler0013 said:

What is the most current version?

Well, both v2.5 and v2.7 have some level of support. v2.7 is a color adjusted (I shy away from saying corrected, because that is a moving target) version of v2.5 (based on the discovery that the v2.5 color reference itself was green-shifted rather than corrected) and has a few more 35mm sourced despecializations, done by Towne32 and endorsed by Harmy.

Both have merit and both are available, but the short of it is that v2.7 is the generally accepted latest, greatest version. (I went into it at this depth because the question was asked in Harmy’s thread, which could be assumed to deal specifically with v2.5, as it is his personal latest release, and Towne32 has a separate thread on the color adjustment project with resulted in v2.7.)

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yoda-sama said:

Tyler0013 said:

What is the most current version?

Well, both v2.5 and v2.7 have some level of support. v2.7 is a color adjusted (I shy away from saying corrected, because that is a moving target) version of v2.5 (based on the discovery that the v2.5 color reference itself was green-shifted rather than corrected) and has a few more 35mm sourced despecializations, done by Towne32 and endorsed by Harmy.

Both have merit and both are available, but the short of it is that v2.7 is the generally accepted latest, greatest version. (I went into it at this depth because the question was asked in Harmy’s thread, which could be assumed to deal specifically with v2.5, as it is his personal latest release, and Towne32 has a separate thread on the color adjustment project with resulted in v2.7.)

is that the same with ESB and RotJ?? i look at the link in the description he has on the facebook to tehparadox but ESB is 2.0 and RotJ is 2.5, only ANH seems to be 2.7

if I am wrong in this can syou or someone else provide a current link to get these?

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Is Harmy still planning on doing another 720p update of Star Wars? He said after Jedi came out that he was considering making it on par with the other two after he was done with 2.5 of Empire. I asked about this a while ago but didn’t get a reply.

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I think 2.7 is the final Star Wars release before the 1080p 3.0 versions.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Is Harmy still planning on doing another 720p update of Star Wars? He said after Jedi came out that he was considering making it on par with the other two after he was done with 2.5 of Empire. I asked about this a while ago but didn’t get a reply.

I do recall a post about this not too long ago (probably yours), but didn’t respond because it was the first I had heard of such a thing (a 2.8 or such). If Harmy did say this, do you know if it was before 2.7 existed? Most communication I’ve heard from Harmy on the subject suggest that this is it until 3.0, but things change of course.

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towne32 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Is Harmy still planning on doing another 720p update of Star Wars? He said after Jedi came out that he was considering making it on par with the other two after he was done with 2.5 of Empire. I asked about this a while ago but didn’t get a reply.

I do recall a post about this not too long ago (probably yours), but didn’t respond because it was the first I had heard of such a thing (a 2.8 or such). If Harmy did say this, do you know if it was before 2.7 existed? Most communication I’ve heard from Harmy on the subject suggest that this is it until 3.0, but things change of course.

You know, it might have been before 2.7. He mentioned it a few days before releasing Jedi 2.5, and the conversation was also surrounding the decision to consider the workprint for 2.0 the “official” 2.0 and then release the updated Jedi as 2.5. He said that he was considering doing an update to SW after Empire in order to bring it up to the same level as the sequels by using TN1 footage to replace the entirely GOUT shots I believe. It didn’t really get mentioned again so I assumed it wasn’t happening.

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I believe some shots were updated for 2.7.

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Additionally, the “A Long Time Ago” card is a cleaned up version from the Silver Screen Edition (SSE). It also features Catbus’s excellent Greedo subtitles that were derived from the SSE, and Darth Lucas rotoscoped the lightsaber blade in Ben’s hut from the SSE. This version has better video quality as I used Harmy’s lossless encodings. It features a Hindi track and Project Threepio v9.2 subtitles.

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Yeah, Jedi 2.5 would have been before I approached him about 2.7.

Handman said:

I believe some shots were updated for 2.7.

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Additionally, the “A Long Time Ago” card is a cleaned up version from the Silver Screen Edition (SSE). It also features Catbus’s excellent Greedo subtitles that were derived from the SSE, and Darth Lucas rotoscoped the lightsaber blade in Ben’s hut from the SSE. This version has better video quality as I used Harmy’s lossless encodings. It features a Hindi track and Project Threepio v9.2 subtitles.

Yes, those are the changes from the short-lived 2.6, which had additional GOUT replacements. There’s still some short purely GOUT shots during the battle of Yavin that didn’t really benefit from the SSE 1.0 encoding.

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Hello all. I’ve asked about different versions of the Despecialized Editions a few times before. Now I have a possibly silly question. Has anyone made an effort to preserve copies of the DE that are now obsolete?

The reason I ask is because I’m so impressed by all work you are doing, it seems like kind of a shame to scrap the earlier versions. They would show the progress you’ve all made in your work over the years.

I think I would even be interested in saving, in addition to the current versions, sets of the rars from respective three versions of SW 1.0, 2.0, ESB 1.0, & ROTJ 1.0 to data DVD-DL sets just for preservation’s sake. However, I don’t want to use torrents because of the security risks they involve.

If anyone could point me towards a source of links to those four older versions that doesn’t involve torrents that would be awesome!

And even if not, thanks again for all your hard work! 😃

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solkap said:

Hello all. I’ve asked about different versions of the Despecialized Editions a few times before. Now I have a possibly silly question. Has anyone made an effort to preserve copies of the DE that are now obsolete?

The reason I ask is because I’m so impressed by all work you are doing, it seems like kind of a shame to scrap the earlier versions. They would show the progress you’ve all made in your work over the years.

I think I would even be interested in saving, in addition to the current versions, sets of the rars from respective three versions of SW 1.0, 2.0, ESB 1.0, & ROTJ 1.0 to data DVD-DL sets just for preservation’s sake. However, I don’t want to use torrents because of the security risks they involve.

If anyone could point me towards a source of links to those four older versions that doesn’t involve torrents that would be awesome!

And even if not, thanks again for all your hard work! 😃

They’re all on the spleen and there aren’t any risks in downloading them from there.

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Isn’t myspleen a torrent tracker site, albeit a private one?

If I may quote from HanDuet’s guide, I thought it was “Practically impossible to obtain invite to private tracker.”

I might consider it if I had an invite, but I don’t expect one.

Besides, I don’t think I like the idea of seeding files from my pc, so it wouldn’t seem very considerate to only leech.

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Yes. It’s a private tracker. Since this, and myspleen, are communities full of preservationists, you can expect old versions of things to persist. Still, outdated version of despecialized fall into the realm of extremely niche interests. Keeping them all maintained on file lockers (and preserving specific rar sets) is probably a major waste of energy. And the few people who keep things seeded on public trackers will move on to the latest version.

For the very few with such an interest, a private tracker is probably the best option. And if they ever go unseeded, there are enough people out there who still have it backed up somewhere and can reseed.

If your interest is just making sure they continue to exist somewhere, I think you need not worry about it, especially if you don’t plan on keeping them seeded. There are enough digital hoarders around here to take care of it. 😃

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I am and always have been fascinated with cultural history and its preservation. But I wouldn’t have called myself a digital hoarder or a Star Wars purist until about a year and a half ago.

But in the lead up to TFA, I set out to purchase copies of the OOT on DVD. I’d just never gotten around to replacing the VHS copies I got rid of as a kid. I was horrified to learn that they didn’t exist outside of GOUT.

I’d seen all the Special Editions in theaters as a teenager, and actually enjoyed them a lot … but as novelties, not culturally relevant films. Like how pop art versions of the Mona Lisa are all well and good, but they will never be as culturally relevant as the original.

I’d always assumed both versions were available! But I think having that rug pulled out from under me turned me into a hoarder once I realized fan edits and unofficial restorations were the closest I would get to the originals.

So if anyone can think of a way for me to get those earlier versions of the DEEDs outside of torrents, a pm would be much appreciated.

Otherwise, if I decide to attempt to acquire a myspeen invite, I’d need to get in line at the link below, correct?:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Post-in-this-thread-to-request-an-invite-to-MySpleenorg-you-MUST-read-the-first-post/id/8592

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solkap said:

So if anyone can think of a way for me to get those earlier versions of the DEEDs outside of torrents, a pm would be much appreciated.

Otherwise, if I decide to attempt to acquire a myspeen invite, I’d need to get in line at the link below, correct?:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Post-in-this-thread-to-request-an-invite-to-MySpleenorg-you-MUST-read-the-first-post/id/8592

You could get in line. But, honestly, I think the kind people in that thread giving out invites should be informed that you have stated that you do not intend to seed back what you downloaded. Your myspleen account would get banned if you only leech, and the person doing the invitation would be in risk as well. Although myspleen is somewhat more lax, many trackers would instantly ban someone for inviting a hit-and-runner. Either way, most people don’t want to invite hit-and-runners, and myspleen actually was upset that OT was inviting so many. But those were accidental invites and you’ve stated the intent in advance. It honestly doesn’t seem like the right distribution platform for you, unless you change your mindset.

People who are super worried about their IPs being out there pay for VPNs. People who want their IPs private and don’t want to use the harddrive space, bandwidth, or computer uptime pay for seed boxes. It’s less convenient, but that’s sometimes how it goes for extenuating circumstances. If this is just general paranoia of getting in trouble for using torrents: you’ll be fine. The tracker has been around for a decade, and people upload copyrighted things to it every day. No one is going to kick down your door for being one of several people seeding an old version of a Star Wars edit that has no commercial equivalent.

Otherwise, perhaps someone will be kind enough to upload all of the old versions somewhere for you. But it doesn’t seem too likely given the size of these things.

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solkap said:
Has anyone made an effort to preserve copies of the DE that are now obsolete?

I’m fairly sure that most versions made their way to Usenet. If you are determined to obtain them, that is your bet bet.

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Well fooey.

I suspected the way I was considering using the torrents would be considered “hit and running” and therefore not cool. But now that I know, I’ll refrain from seeking any private torrent invite, since I don’t think I’ll change my mind.

I’ll just have to hoard from here forward! 😉

To change the subject back to SW specifically, I noticed today in the 2.5 version that the focus goes pretty soft during the first shot of Alderaan from the Death Star Bridge between 54:36-54:41. Is that because that’s one of the upscaled GOUT shots?

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