Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 612

There is not a version 2.7 for either V or VI. It is unlikely that there will be.

solkap said:

towne32 said:

There is not a version 2.7 for either V or VI. It is unlikely that there will be.

Speaking of versions, that reminds me of a few questions I’ve been meaning to ask about the DEED Project as a whole.

I remember that ROTJ 2.5 dropped on 2/7/16. But I was still pretty new to this site at the time, and hadn’t been around for the initial release of 1.0, or any of the versions of the other films for that matter.

Were the all iterations of the DEEDs prior to that point as follows?:

SW 1.0
SW 2.0
SW 2.5

ESB 1.0
ESB 2.0

ROTJ 1.0

And if so, out of curiosity about the past DEED project timeline, what were the dates Harmy initially posted each of those?

That’s pretty much it. RoTJ had a barely distributed temporary v2.0, but it was pretty much just for previewing and then became 2.5 by the time it was actually released.

I don’t know about the exact release dates (and it would be just as much work for me to dig through the threads as you 😉 ). It’s possible that looking up the releases on myspleen for the NFO/readme would be informative. But they’re doing their usual thing of showing an error because they are over their limit of 5-10 people on at a time, no doubt. 😛

anakinkenobi said:

I kinda wanna read that thesis he mentioned…

Check it out: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/My-STAR-WARS-Thesis-I-need-help/id/14013

solkap said:

That’s pretty much it. RoTJ had a barely distributed temporary v2.0, but it was pretty much just for previewing and then became 2.5 by the time it was actually released.

I don’t know about the exact release dates (and it would be just as much work for me to dig through the threads as you 😉 ).

Ah, I see.

Yeah, no, I wouldn’t expect anyone to look through the threads for me! I was wondering if anyone had the information readily at hand. Sounds like probably not.

That’s OK, I was just curious! Thanks!

Let’s not forget about v2.1 of Star Wars.

Flexicon9 said:

Yes, I still have a copy of v2.1… I remember the Ben Kenobi desert scenes were adjusted because they had been a little blown out to look like the IB Tech print from that theater screening and then Harmy sort of dialed that back to look less so. That’s around the time the whole '70s look was coming into the presentation…

[IMG]http://i64.tinypic.com/f1iogj.png[/IMG]

The colors have been adjusted quite a bit since this example was presented.

Here’s a gallery showing what was changed from 2.1 to 2.5. Not sure how to get the newfangled google photos to actually show a gallery, but you should be able to click through them or press the right arrow.

https://plus.google.com/photos/109609428403596349302/album/5932148501374386753/5932148505580432450

I thought there also used to be a 2.0 to 2.1 gallery, but I can’t seem to find it.

Edit: no, maybe I’m just thinking of 2.0 (i.e., remastered). Am I correct in remembering that 2.1 is essentially 2.5 without the few little fixes in that gallery? It was 2.0 that had some of the really bright desert shots (and of course much less 35mm source).

Here’s the gallery from 1.0 to 2.0 (again, you need to click left or right) https://plus.google.com/photos/109609428403596349302/album/5781873106061439201/5781874268260252418

I don’t understand if the real color of the real movie is that we can see in the 2.5 or if is it more the 2.7 who have real colors ? Because in the 2.5 the picture is always yellow, but may be that is the natural color of the original movie (or a degradation of time on the pellicle). I have noticed the same thing with ROTJ 2.5.
I wonder if one day an official blu ray comes out, if the color would like the image of the 2.5 or more like the 2.7

And when the 3.0 despecialized will come out, it will take the same color traitment has the 2.5 or the 2.7 ? (or neither of two ?)

Lemanitou said:

I don’t understand if the real color of the real movie is that we can see in the 2.5 or if is it more the 2.7 who have real colors ? Because in the 2.5 the picture is always yellow, but may be that is the natural color of the original movie (or a degradation of time on the pellicle). I have noticed the same thing with ROTJ 2.5.
I wonder if one day an official blu ray comes out, if the color would like the image of the 2.5 or more like the 2.7

And when the 3.0 despecialized will come out, it will take the same color traitment has the 2.5 or the 2.7 ? (or neither of two ?)

The “real color” of the movie is a topic worthy of a million pages of discussion that will get us not much closer to a real answer.

2.5 was colored with the idea that the film references that were used had already been corrected to match the way the print looks. This turned out to be a misunderstanding, and the references images were far more raw than that. On top of that, technicolor prints have other issues and might not be considered perfect representations of the color, despite the fact that they have not faded.

Knowing this, I altered the color to make 2.7. I don’t claim that it is more correct, as references such as scanned print projects were used only loosely, and even those are graded by eye and feel. The goal was really just to undo a lot of the yellow/green effect that had been over-utilized based on the misunderstanding described above, as some of the shots stood out very strongly for me and I personally found those shots to be a little bit distracting, and not at all how I remembered the film (can of worms comment), but also to fit alongside ESB and Jedi despecialized, which had more natural tones. That said, plenty of people prefer Harmy’s 2.5, and it provides it with a rather pleasant ‘old film’ type of look.

The project eventually escalated to a shot by shot color adjustment project. I aimed for consistency, and sometimes achieved it. I tried to remove the yellow look, mostly to fit my own tastes and make it a bit more neutral. I did not counteract the very vibrant blues of the interior/exterior death star. I think it looks great as vibrant as it is, but it might technically be a bit much. And from the looks of a certain projects, it will probably be a bit more tame for 3.0.

On that note, look at Neverar’s color thread to see what SW 3.0 might look like. Harmy will be using it as a base for that project, though he could implement changes on top of Neverar’s.

doubleofive said:

No one knows the “real color of the real movie”, really. If an official Blu-ray comes out, it will be yet another interpretation of the real colors.

Yes, that’s the TLDR of it. I’m not actually too picky about color. As long as it isn’t as botched as the blu-rays, I will most likely be happy. Often in the threads containing people’s color experiments, I think the shots look great after the first adjustment or two. After that, there is usually another 5 pages on a given shot before moving on, but I think most is accomplished before those minute and never ending tweaks.

If a new blu-ray/UHD looked as good as the 1997 color, I would be happy.

On that note, look at Neverar’s color thread to see what SW 3.0 might look like. Harmy will be using it as a base for that project, though he could implement changes on top of Neverar’s.

Where can I see the Neverar’s work ? 😃

Lemanitou said:

On that note, look at Neverar’s color thread to see what SW 3.0 might look like. Harmy will be using it as a base for that project, though he could implement changes on top of Neverar’s.

Where can I see the Neverar’s work ? 😃

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Neverars-1080p-Star-Wars-Color-Correction/id/16256

I forget if the first post is up to date, but it’s throughout that thread.

NeverarGreat said:

The first post is ALWAYS up to date 😉

Nice. It would get very confusing otherwise. 😃

Towne, I thought 2.7 looked gorgeous. After watching all of the Despecialized versions, I’m amazed that Star Wars looks the best and needs the least amount of work compared to Empire and Jedi (as far as Re-specializing them goes, anyway). The dewback animation near the cantina needs improvement, but literally that’s the only negative thing I noticed in over 2 hours. Every single other shot looks wonderful. Even if LFL does release the OOT, they wouldn’t be capable of releasing a better version of Star Wars imo.

Thanks. Most of that is of course Harmy’s doing. I’d say lucasfilm could do a fantastic job, or at least produce something that only needs a few more tweaks.

But I do think Jedi is in the best state by a long shot. With better rancor source material and a 1080p pipeline it’ll be near perfect.

SW still needs some GOUT upgrades, especially in the final battle. And some of the 35mm footage could be better than the SSE print (especially with the lower bitrate 1.0).

I think ESB probably looks a bit better or more passable than SW 2.7. But part of it is because the changes were less severe in the first place. And the remaining recomped SE shots are nothing offensive. Poita’s new scans are incredible, so 2.5 should be amazing.

Hey guys first time poster.

I’ve used the ultimate introductory guide all the way up to section 7 and hit a bit of a snag and wondered why we had to use tehparadox.com. Is there something specific I need to do on there or if there’s a way around it as my ISP has blocked tehpaeadox and all the proxy’s are not working for me either. Any suggestions for me to get the trilogy. Thanks, Tris.

The guide also has a little section telling you how to acquire the relevant links for the download client (FRD) without visiting the paradoxical place. As long as “uloz dot to” is not blocked (this is where the actual video files are hosted), you should be fine.

Bluto

Discostu said:

Project Threepio has Japanese subtitles fitting the Despecialized Editions.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/id/13794

Hello. Thank you, Discostu.
I downloaded the file, it was bigger than I expected, but they are .sup file, so that’s what I wanted.
I didn’t check every seconds, but it seems to fit.
I’ll see when I watch the blu-ray I made out of these ^^

Thank you again !