General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 299

TavorX said:

If the first KOTOR ever got made into a movie, it would get criticized for being too much like A New Hope & Empire Strikes Back.

It…probably would. If you thought the naysayers exaggerated what a similarities are in regards to TFA that would be nothing in comparison to what they would do to a KOTOR movie. They would probably resort to saying that because there are lightsabers and blasters in the movie that it’s the exact same as SW.

If the second KOTOR got made into a movie, it would get criticized for not being Star Wars-y enough and boring.

KOTOR II wasn’t boring at all in my opinion. I think people would be invested in the mystery of what happened to the exile after what happened at Malachor V, the greyness that surrounds a large portion of the story and characters like Kreia and Visas would be fan favorites.

I could see people saying Nihilus is a better villain than Director Krennic or Kylo Ren even though he has no personality and barely does anything in the goddamn game.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

ATMachine said:

Neither did George Lucas, at the time.

Honestly difficult to imagine Vader being subservient to anyone who wasn’t at least his peer vis-a-vis the force.

But the thing is, at the time, the Emperor was designed just as a figure head, not an actual all powerful ruler. And, at the time, Vader was not designed as the incredibly powerful master of the Force we’ve seen him be in later works.

I’m not sure where this conversation is going.

There were three films made. Out of the infinite number of narrative possibilities, a small finite number were written in stone, while another small finite number were left ambiguous and open to interpretation, and the remaining infinite number were undisturbed, from which future ideas for future stories could be gleaned.

Logically, the Emperor could have turned out to be a sith, or he could have turned out to be a figurehead. But if he were to be a sith–which indeed was the case–Tarkin couldn’t have known about it, because of what he said in the original film.

Not odd to discuss it, ATM. Sorry if I sounded like I was making that argument. I thought the argument that was being made was that since Lucas didn’t know where the story was going in the first place, it’s OK to go back in and retcon anything else.

I was just pointing out the error in logic with regard to that line of thinking.

DuracellEnergizer said:

If Ric Olié became a Sith, would he start calling himself “Darth Obvious” or would he made “Ric” the new Sith title?

Both are great options!

Alderaan said:

Not odd to discuss it, ATM. Sorry if I sounded like I was making that argument. I thought the argument that was being made was that since Lucas didn’t know where the story was going in the first place, it’s OK to go back in and retcon anything else.

I was just pointing out the error in logic with regard to that line of thinking.

What I posted was not a “retcon” I just made up. That’s what was intended when the film was made.

[DominicCobb said:]

What I posted was not a “retcon” I just made up. That’s what was intended when the film was made.

But it wasn’t in the film, so it’s not part of the story. It was just an idea that was (eventually) discarded. The story ultimately went in another direction. It may have been possible to go with that idea at one point in time, but now it’s not, because it contradicts the final version of the narrative that was put out.

I’m not sure if I’m just arguing semantics at this point, but I couldn’t get the intent of the person who made that initial post.

Alderaan said:

[DominicCobb said:]

What I posted was not a “retcon” I just made up. That’s what was intended when the film was made.

But it wasn’t in the film, so it’s not part of the story. It was just an idea that was (eventually) discarded. The story ultimately went in another direction. It may have been possible to go with that idea at one point in time, but now it’s not, because it contradicts the final version of the narrative that was put out.

I’m not sure if I’m just arguing semantics at this point, but I couldn’t get the intent of the person who made that initial post.

I think it was just a tangent that didn’t have anything to do with the ultimate question of “does Tarkin know Palpatine is a Sith” to which I would say no.

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VegetableMan said:

I recently discovered Star War The Third Gathers: The Backstroke Of The West, the dubbed version on Youtube. It is hilarious. My favorite quotes from what I have seen:
"-You underrated my ability - Is"
“I will ruin you!”.
I almost laughed in tears at that one. The guys that voiced them are really funny.
I also love their ridiculous names, like Ratio Tile, so fucking funny.

I quite like Allah Gold.

Jambe Davdar’s Star Wars Begins, Building Empire and Returning to Jedi. Daveytod’s The Clones Revealed and The Sith Revealed. Is there anything of the same kind for TPM ?

I know I’ve been critical of Rogue One and The Force Awakens lately, but you know what new Star Wars thing I really do like? That Duracell / Children’s Miracle Network Star Wars commercial.

So well made and touching and great for the kids.

MalàStrana said:

Jambe Davdar’s Star Wars Begins, Building Empire and Returning to Jedi. Daveytod’s The Clones Revealed and The Sith Revealed. Is there anything of the same kind for TPM ?

I don’t believe so.

Jamie himself does not know if such doc exists, so it confirms that the answer is “no”. Thanks for the reply.

SilverWook said:

George is finally getting his museum!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/92305986-132.html#

Oh nice. We might not agree with everything Lucas has done, but it is a good idea to recognize his impact, for good or ill.