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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 66

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:
Sounds reasonable.

Luke force-throws a newer most dangerous ever Death Star into a supernova and saves the galaxy. The movie makes $500 million. Fans wonder why Kenobi or Luke didn’t do that to the other Death Stars or Starkiller. Some moderator on TFN proclaims that their force powers weren’t strong enough, but Luke trained for 30 years until he could do it. He found some ancient training method from some obscure world in some EU or Legends novel. Then someone asks why The Emperor didn’t force-throw the entire Rebel Fleet to the other side of the galaxy. Then a few people cry out “it’s just a movie, who cares!”

I fully expect these things to happen in the next movie. This is the direction the franchise has been going for almost 20 years.

Sounds extra reasonable.

The two posts in this thread before the last one were extra extra reasonable.

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  1. Star Wars
  2. Empire strikes back
  3. Return of the Jedi
  4. The force awakens
  5. Revenge of the sith
  6. Phantom menace
  7. Attack of the clones
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  1. Star Wars
  2. The Empire Strikes Back
  3. Rogue One
  4. Return of the Jedi / The Force Awakens
  5. The Phantom Menace
  6. Revenge of the Sith
  7. Attack of the Clones
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After seeing Rogue One again, it’s issues became less apparent, and it’s strengths were even more enjoyable. I love Force Awakens but here are my updated rankings for the THEATRICAL versions of the movies. If I were to include my preferred fan-edits then this list would be much different.

  1. The Empire Strikes Back
  2. Star Wars
  3. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
  4. The Force Awakens
  5. Return of the Jedi
  6. Revenge of the Sith
  7. The Phantom Menace
  8. Attack of the Clones

Return of the Jedi: Remastered

Lord of the Rings: The Darth Rush Definitives

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Empire Strikes Back still remains my top favorite Star Wars film, despite knowing how cliche it is to say that. Its atmosphere and the stakes raised within this film is pretty much nailed for me compared to any of the other ones. It’s basically the Star Wars film where I enjoy all its aspects. The rest of the films, I enjoy it for more specific reasons rather than as a whole. The Force Awakens for instance, I’m really fond of its characters, especially Rey and Kylo, but not so much the story. A New Hope, I appreciate for its technical marvel of its time, and its editing direction, though I may be blasted for saying it’s not that ‘fun’ to watch; it’s pretty linear in story progression. Simple is good at times, and it tells its story well, but for personal preference, I like being invested in multiple story arcs within a film that all converge.
Return of the Jedi remains to me the best space battle I’ve seen, even still having seen Rogue One. Rogue One I think has the most badass space battle moments, sure, but Jedi has the most emotionally driven space battle, so I felt more invested in that one. Just like how the Prequels may feature well-choreographed duels, Return of the Jedi’s Luke vs Vader duel or Rey vs Kylo, those have more emotion driving it.

Hence, my list would go something like this:

  1. Empire Strikes Back (Best balance of drama, humor, and character investment; its atmosphere is done very well and sends me into the Star Wars universe quite effectively)
  2. The Force Awakens (I’m admittedly more interested in Rey’s beginnings here than in Luke’s from ANH)
  3. A New Hope (Despite what I said, it has this charm to it that still brings me back, given its history)
  4. Return of the Jedi (Luke’s confrontation with Vader always stands out, along with an arguably gripping space battle; its first half is suffering)
  5. Rogue One (I like the tone it went after, and it’s a visual treat, but characters didn’t pack a punch)
  6. Revenge of the Sith (Eh, still remains to be the most watchable Prequel)
  7. Attack of the Clones (Pretty much only stay for the 2nd half shrugs)
  8. The Phantom Menace (Even as a kid, I always avoided this one, and still even now, it’s so dry and bland)

The Rise of Failures

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I thought posting in this thread would be a good way to introduce myself:

  1. The Empire Strikes Back
  2. Star Wars/A New Hope
  3. Return Of The Jedi
  4. Rogue One (maybe still the exitement talking, we will see how I rank it in a few months)
  5. The Force Awakens
  6. Revenge Of The Sith
  7. The Phantom Menace
  8. Attack Of The Clones

Looking forward to many discussions with you all!

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VegetableMan said:

Hi everyone, I’ve been lurking here for awhile, especially in the script rewriting section, and I love it. I thought posting in this thread would be a good way to introduce myself:

  1. The Empire Strikes Back
  2. Star Wars/A New Hope
  3. Return Of The Jedi
  4. Rogue One (maybe still the exitement talking, we will see how I rank it in a few months)
  5. The Force Awakens
  6. Revenge Of The Sith
  7. The Phantom Menace
  8. Attack Of The Clones

Anyway, looking forward to many discussions with you guys!

Welcome! Nice to see ya here 😃

Return of the Jedi: Remastered

Lord of the Rings: The Darth Rush Definitives

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TavorX said:

Empire Strikes Back still remains my top favorite Star Wars film

What I think Empire and most of the OT gets right is that it strives to be a serious, cinematic film, without jumping the shark and taking itself too seriously. It is still a fun and exciting movie, but there is real fillmaking magic in there as well.

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Prefacing by saying I’m not baiting or trolling, and I’m not a child, before someone inevitably screams at me for being wrong about my opinion as usual. I’m more than happy to discus why my ranking is as it is, and truthfully I love most of the Star Wars films, but I’m not really interested in arguing as neither side will convince the other (:

  1. Revenge of the Sith
  2. Attack of the Clones
  3. The Phantom Menace
  4. A New Hope
  5. Rogue One
  6. The Empire Strikes Back
  7. Return of the Jedi
  8. The Force Awakens
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Ryan-SWI said:

Prefacing by saying I’m not baiting or trolling, and I’m not a child, before someone inevitably screams at me for being wrong about my opinion as usual.

I would accuse you of these things but my brain has locked up after reading your rankings.

JEDIT: Leaving aside the PT, it looks like the rest of your rankings were put in a blender.

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TV’s Frink said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Prefacing by saying I’m not baiting or trolling, and I’m not a child, before someone inevitably screams at me for being wrong about my opinion as usual.

I would accuse you of these things but my brain has locked up after reading your rankings.

JEDIT: Leaving aside the PT, it looks like the rest of your rankings were put in a blender.

And there’s Frink.

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TV’s Frink said:
JEDIT: Leaving aside the PT, it looks like the rest of your rankings were put in a blender.

Seriously, tho Frinks what is even the point of discussing these films if people are not allowed to have any other opinion then

ESB 1
SW 2
ROTJ3
TFA 4
RO 5
TPM 6
ROTS7
AOTC8.
Also, comments like these are why we get trolls.

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HP. Lovecraft said:

TV’s Frink said:
JEDIT: Leaving aside the PT, it looks like the rest of your rankings were put in a blender.

Seriously, tho Frinks what is even the point of discussing these films if people are not allowed to have any other opinion then

ESB 1
SW 2
ROTJ3
TFA 4
RO 5
TPM 6
ROTS7
AOTC8.
Also, comments like these are why we get trolls.

Frink likes to pop up to make fun of people who have different opinions all the time, you get used to it after a while, no big deal. Though it would be nice to have an actual discussion for once, I come here mainly for the Preservation section anyway.

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Ryan-SWI said:

Frink likes to pop up to make fun of people who have different opinions all the time, you get used to it after a while, no big deal.

You’re allowed to have a different opinion. Everyone else on the site is also allowed to mock you for having those terrible hot takes too.

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Alderaan said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Frink likes to pop up to make fun of people who have different opinions all the time, you get used to it after a while, no big deal.

You’re allowed to have a different opinion. Everyone else on the site is also allowed to mock you for having those terrible hot takes too.

That’s fine, but it’s also why you get actual trolls here and why it’s become such a toxic environment for new people to the site, which drives them away. Also another reason why I usually stick to Preservations.

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  • SW
  • ESB
  • TFA
  • ROJ
  • RO (might move up - still early)
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Ryan-SWI said:
4. A New Hope
5. Rogue One
6. The Empire Strikes Back
7. Return of the Jedi
8. The Force Awakens

Alright, I’ll humor you. How did you get to this order?

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TV’s Frink said:
Alright, I’ll humor you. How did you get to this order?

He picked cards out of two hats. The prequels were in hat #1 and got picked first, so they came out in random order 1,2,3. The rest were all in hat #2.

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No, I understand the PT order he used. I mean, I think it’s insane to put those three first (or to put AOTC anywhere besides the absolute bottom of any list), but it’s his opinion. It’s the rest that just looks random to me.

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TV’s Frink said:

Ryan-SWI said:
4. A New Hope
5. Rogue One
6. The Empire Strikes Back
7. Return of the Jedi
8. The Force Awakens

Alright, I’ll humor you. How did you get to this order?

If I were going by technical and objective qualities of the films themselves my list would look very different. I’m not interested in disclosing what I do in real life here as it’s not relevant, but suffice to say I spend enough time looking at those qualities to want something different and personal when I’m watching one of my favourite franchises. My list isn’t what I think is a Best To Worst of the Star Wars films, just what my personal preference is on an enjoyment level.

ANH/ESB/R1 all change frequently as they all have narrative elements and themes I enjoy on various levels.
ROTJ is where it is because half the film feels redundant and the other half is bogged down by the silly decision to make another Death Star, but it still has many redeeming qualities, like the Luke/Vader scenes.
TFA then takes all the worst parts of ROTJ and amplifys it by valuing cheap throwbacks and visuals over any actual storytelling or expansion of the Star Wars saga as a whole. The only big change it makes is that now Han Solo is dead. Other plot holes like Luke’s lightsaber just aren’t explained because JJ is afraid of any exposition at all. The whole film feels like a Marvel film, which is never what Star Wars was.
Say what you will about any other film from I - VI, but each film added something significantly new in one way or another, and all of them stood on their own narratively without having to wait for the next movie in the series to explain all the nonsense it created.

But again, that was a personal preference list.
If we’re talking objective filmmaking the list would probably (for the most part) look like a lot of the other lists on here, but what’s the point of posting the same list over and over again.

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So nice to see the elitism cireclejerk shutting out any discussion as usual.

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No, you don’t understand. Frink and I don’t get along. You’ve brought us closer together.

Ryan-SWI said:
I’m not interested in disclosing what I do in real life here as it’s not relevant

I’m going to guess therapist?