Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 75

Oh, ok. How was that a spoiler?

Ah ok well I did not know that I thought they cut it short… So I got misled by the teaser clip 😃

I love this movie more and more every time I see it! 😄 I really love how the Rebellion is in more of a gray area in this film with Rebel terrorists and all. The one thing that there could’ve been more of is the character of Moroff, the white haired creature.

ZkinandBonez said:

I don’t really see why every character needs a backstory. When the whole point is to make a standalone movie where none of the characters will return in a sequel, the I don’t really see how backstory would be necessary unless directly related to the plot, e.g. Jyn’s relation to Galen.

I think RO can be fairly compared to movies like f.ex. John Carpenter’s The Thing in terms of how the characters are developed. What’s so brilliant about the writing of that film is that it never wastes any time explaining anyone’s backstory. All that we need to know about those characters are revealed to us through how they all cope with the same intense situation. There was never a “when I was a kid…” or “back home I was…” type of dialogue, all that we need to learn about their personalities comes from how they react to the crisis that is at the center film. That in my opinion is good economical writing. Granted, this method is not for every type of movie, but I think that this is the kind of story that RO tries to be. Which makes sense when you got a war movie focused on one specific threat and one specific important mission. RO isn’t really a “character film”, yet it still manages to explore several characters’ personalities and implied backgrounds based on how they behave throughout the story.

Also SW does have the benefit of having one of the most elaborate EUs in existence, so if you are just dying to know the life story of Chirrut or Bodhi, or any other character, I’m sure there’s going to be some novel or comic that will explore this at some point.

Well said.

Bobo Jameson said:

The one thing that there could’ve been more of is the character of Moroff, the white haired creature.

Now you’re just trying to suck up to the moderator. 😉

I was relieved the Rocket Raccoon rip-off was barely in the movie, my wife didn’t even notice him. I would have liked more Moroff, however.

They really mined the early concepts for the OT in this movie. For example, Chirrut being connected to the Whills and saying “May the Force of Others be with you” as in the first draft of Star Wars. I had no idea we’d be seeing Vader’s lava castle from the first draft of TESB either.

Also, is it just me or did the melody for Jyn’s theme remind anyone else of the Star Crash main title?

What I think is Jyn’s theme reminds me of Giacchino’s Trek theme (I’m not totally sure yet which theme is which on the R1 OST apart from the guardians of the Whills). It’s got some VERY similar chord changes.

She was kind of awesome in TCW too. Wouldn’t mind seeing her on Rebels.

joefavs said:

What I think is Jyn’s theme reminds me of Giacchino’s Trek theme (I’m not totally sure yet which theme is which on the R1 OST apart from the guardians of the Whills). It’s got some VERY similar chord changes.

Well there’s Jyn’s theme and then there’s what I’ve been calling the Rogue One theme but I guess they’re actually calling the “Hope” theme. Both have similar sounds to Giacchino’s Trek theme I guess but neither reminds me particularly of much of it.

Here’s both (Jyn’s theme for most of it, with the Hope theme starts at around 3:17):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42CTq5QZtI

Jyn’s theme actually has some similarities to the Yorktown theme from STBeyond (at 1:45):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfJSE8Ea94c

While the Hope theme sounds more like a SW main title fake out with the same first two notes and then going in a different direction.

DevilWing said:

Also, is it just me or did the melody for Jyn’s theme remind anyone else of the Star Crash main title?

Well here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBWO4HPh8k0

And god you’re right, sounds just like the Hope theme! Amazing! Long live Star Crash.
(I guess it’s full circle as both themes are designed as SW main title knock-off/homages)

All right, so it is Jyn’s theme I meant. It’s got the same chords as the main theme from Trek: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ84ymE53Ns
(1:10 for Dom’s link to Jyn’s theme, 0:43 for Trek)

joefavs said:

All right, so it is Jyn’s theme I meant. It’s got the same chords as the main theme from Trek: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ84ymE53Ns
(1:10 for Dom’s link to Jyn’s theme, 0:43 for Trek)

Hmm yeah I think I can definitely hear some shared DNA there.

So was Rogue Group established by the Alliance in honor of the members of Rogue One?