While we’re on the topic of ESB soundtracks, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8MpzMUD4Gg) shows that Luke’s “You were lucky to get out of there” line heard in the 70mm and SE tracks was on-set dialogue. Just something interesting that I found out recently.
Checked through the 70mm in-theater recording and it shows that line is not present. Instead it is “It’s lucky you don’t taste very good” like in the stereo mix.
While we’re on the topic of ESB soundtracks, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8MpzMUD4Gg) shows that Luke’s “You were lucky to get out of there” line heard in the 70mm and SE tracks was on-set dialogue. Just something interesting that I found out recently.
Checked through the 70mm in-theater recording and it shows that line is not present. Intead it is “It’s lucky you don’t taste very good” like in the stereo mix.
Huh, wasn’t aware of this.
The long and the short of it is this:
Back in '77 someone made a audio tape recording of the 70mm screenings. You can read about it here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/1977-70mm-Soundtrack-Strikes-Back/id/6088
For the second time, there is a mono mix of Empire Strikes Back that is not a fold down.
Several lines are shifted (“The 1st transport is away!”) some are added (C3pO’s lines when entering the hibernation chamber) and some are changed (the stormtrooper when 3PO enters the wrong room at Cloud City).
This can be found on Despecialized as the 16mm Mono.
And I assume Puggo Strikes Back? I evidently missed that discussion and have not seen anything more recent on it. From the sounds of it, it was a mono remix, but has fewer differences than the ANH mono mix. Just some things to make it sound better.
That’s where we got it from, isn’t it?
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
That’s exactly where we got it from. I do hold out hope that we’ll find a better quality version.
And there are differences. It’s not just levels that are adjusted.
What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.
That’s exactly where we got it from. I do hold out hope that we’ll find a better quality version.
And there are differences. It’s not just levels that are adjusted.
What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.
Also, the mono versions of Empire and Jedi were likely downmixes of the stereo tracks (possibly the L, R, & C channels or the full matrixed stereo). By 1980 there wasn’t much point
While I agree that would make sense, in these cases (and Raiders as well), they were indeed different. The same kinds of variations we see between original SW mixes pop up in these as well (different ADR takes, on-set audio instead of ADR, different sound effects, etc.)
Here are the differences that were mentioned over at the Puggo thread. Most of them are from Trooperman who first noticed the discrepancies.
I just noticed another deviation- when Luke kicks Vader in the carbon-freezing chamber, he goes “Uhhh” instead of “Ahhh.”
Yoda makes a frightened “Ehhhhh!” sound just before Luke says “Like we’re being watched” and points his blaster at him.
“Oh, this is suicide! There’s nowhere to go.” present on the mono folddown.
Hmm… C3PO only says “Hello?” once when he thinks he hears an R2 unit AND the troop’s voice is different… AND the droid’s “Eh chuta” sounds like a different take
When R2 is being loaded into Luke’s X-Wing, C-3PO says the word “and” more audibly before saying "do take good care of yourself."present
C3PO has an ADDITIONAL LINE (not documented elsewhere) at the beginning of the carbon freezing scene. “Oh dear, what now? I don’t like the look of this.”
Yoda training scene
35mm:
"Ehh…run!"
70mm mono fold-down:
“YES…run!”
-Right after the magic tree scene, 16mm features the classic TIE sound effects from “Star Wars”. The 35mm does not.
-Right after Luke puts the charge into the AT-AT and blows it up, the very next speeder Veers’ AT-AT shoots down has an airplane sound effect in the 35mm which is mixed much, much softer in the mono.
-Music is generally mixed much more prominently, with much punchier brass and violins, in this mono track. For a good example see the Hoth base scene right after the power generator is blown up. The music is inaudible in the 35mm and only fades in when 3PO appears- the missing music is not only audible, but very prominent in the mono
-For instance, in that very same scene, right before Leia falls down, she screams twice in the mono mix. No extra explosion before she falls.
-And as C3PO is climbing up the ramp, the most prominent sound in the mono mix is the flutes and the swooping strings. In the 35mm, it’s C3PO footsteps on the ramp, and the ramp sound effect- only to have to dial the music back up for the next scene (Vader).
-The shot after the Falcon escapes Hoth, the X-wing flyover is not nearly as prominent in the mono-music is
-The asteroid field sequence- all the sound effects are drastically muted and some are entirely missing in the mono mix. Focus is on the music.
-The scene right before the big Han/Leia kiss on the ship…much louder computer sound effects on the mono.
-Right after Leia screams seeing the Mynock out the window…audio of her footsteps on-set much more prominent.
-Yoda: “Consume you it will…as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice.” For the mono mix, a different, less aggressive take of “as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice” has been spliced in.
“How ya fealin’ kid…ya don’t look so bad to me”… Chewie’s noises are all missing.
What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.