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jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

I wasn’t criticizing you at all. That was a completely honest post, and Dreamaster’s post was also completely honest as far as I can tell. Everyone who has posted since Dre put up his video preview seems to agree that it doesn’t look very good.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

I wasn’t criticizing you at all. That was a completely honest post, and Dreamaster’s post was also completely honest as far as I can tell. Everyone who has posted since Dre put up his video preview seems to agree that it doesn’t look very good.

Sorry just kind of use to that on here. So do you agree with me that the color of the inside of the tantaive should be the color white it was in revenge of the sith. I know there from different decade the flims i mean. But i think that is the color of the inside if so can it be done because that’s the color white i think the ship and the stormtroopers as well should be i could be wrong though. ps. do you think his video was a negative reply to me?

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Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

Damn you critics! 😉 Hahaha, I might have gone a little overboard with the latest one. I will go back to one of the previous grades.

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jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

I wasn’t criticizing you at all. That was a completely honest post, and Dreamaster’s post was also completely honest as far as I can tell. Everyone who has posted since Dre put up his video preview seems to agree that it doesn’t look very good.

Sorry just kind of use to that on here. So do you agree with me that the color of the inside of the tantaive should be the color white it was in revenge of the sith. I know there from different decade the flims i mean. But i think that is the color of the inside if so can it be done because that’s the color white i think the ship and the stormtroopers as well should be i could be wrong though. ps. do you think his video was a negative reply to me?

Of course the video wasn’t a negative reply to you. You think I would do all the work involved to prepare a video just to mess with you?

To answer your question: no, the walls of Tantive IV are not white in the original film like in ROTS. They are a subtle mint color.

This photo is reasonably accurate, I believe:

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Over that pink tint problem, there seems to be a contrast problem in this shot :

http://imgur.com/a/4BTji

I have to say the best look I’ve seen for that scene is probably your color balanced clip of the LPP.

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UnitéD2 said:

Over that pink tint problem, there seems to be a contrast problem in this shot :

http://imgur.com/a/4BTji

I have to say the best look I’ve seen for that scene is probably your color balanced clip of the LPP.

That’s part of the print, so that shot will need a separate correction.

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I’m preparing a new video sample based on one of the earlier color grades. I adjusted the contrast slightly to avoid black crush and blown out whites. The final result looks very similar to the JSC:

Original video sample:

Regraded video sample:

JSC:

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Ooo, that’s looking great.

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DrDre said:

I’m preparing a new video sample based on one of the earlier color grades. I adjusted the contrast slightly to avoid black crush and blown out whites. The final result looks very similar to the JSC:

Original video sample:

Regraded video sample:

JSC:

Yes! very pleasing to look at. A few here went a little off the rails with their distaste for your video preview. They forget however, that you have a magical tool that can alter the grade to whatever source they so choose. I call it laziness, or ignorance. I don’t mind putting in the work for a more personal look. I’m just happy for whatever Williarob can get out of the scans.

Keep up the good work!

(This grade is better than the video preview. But don’t let the group beat you down)

It doesn’t hurt to offer help, but it always hurts to disregard those that do.

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The white levels turned out really good in the latest regrade. Lots of fine details in the “boxes” walls and the
hint-o-mint looks spot-on to me 😃

Perhaps 3PO looks just a tiny bit more “coppery” in the last shot compared to the so called Warmer regrades
found on page 7? Then AGAIN, this ol’ monitor of mine isn’t exactly what you’d call reference equipment.

Keep up the good work!

“Stargazing wizards, stare into the night,
Hurricanes and blizzards, here comes the final fight”

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jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

No one criticized you at all. Go take your pills.

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DrDre said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

I wasn’t criticizing you at all. That was a completely honest post, and Dreamaster’s post was also completely honest as far as I can tell. Everyone who has posted since Dre put up his video preview seems to agree that it doesn’t look very good.

Sorry just kind of use to that on here. So do you agree with me that the color of the inside of the tantaive should be the color white it was in revenge of the sith. I know there from different decade the flims i mean. But i think that is the color of the inside if so can it be done because that’s the color white i think the ship and the stormtroopers as well should be i could be wrong though. ps. do you think his video was a negative reply to me?

Of course the video wasn’t a negative reply to you. You think I would do all the work involved to prepare a video just to mess with you?

I would.

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Density said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

No one criticized you at all. Go take your pills.

They hadn’t even responded to him, let alone criticized him.

I can respond to it, though. It’s not a very good idea and Star Wars should not be made to match the prequels.

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Yes, it seems to be better ! About that shot in particular (but I understand the point is to build a global correction for the scene), I would be tempted to reduce a little the green cast : http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189370/picture:0.

Perhaps my version is a little too blue and has a wrong contrast and I don’t know how would that change fit for the hole scene. What do you think ?

Sorry for nitpicking, your work is amazing ! 😉

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DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

The set looks great, DrDre. Add me to the list of those who prefer this regrade to the one that followed. 😃

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UnitéD2 said:

Yes, it seems to be better ! About that shot in particular (but I understand the point is to build a global correction for the scene), I would be tempted to reduce a little the green cast : http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189370/picture:0.

Perhaps my version is a little to blue and has a wrong contrast and I don’t know how would that change fit for the hole scene. What do you think ?

Sorry for nitpicking, your work is amazing ! 😉

You must understand. The goal is not to make the walls of the Tantive white, but rather correct the scan to match most accurately how the film looked originally. Taking into consideration what is known about the set (slight mint walls, not pure white lights, actual costume colors) and how the quality of light interacts with the walls and characters, the idea is to match those colors in a natural way. Because you perceive the walls as being true white (probably due to the set from Revenge of the Sith) your eyes tell you there is a green cast because it dominates most of the framing during the whole sequence. DrDre is finding the sweet spot to accent all of the colors needed from the scan and match them as well as possible.

It’s not about what looks the best, it’s about what looks right.

It doesn’t hurt to offer help, but it always hurts to disregard those that do.

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vexedmedia said:

You must understand. The goal is not to make the walls of the Tantive white

Neither is it my goal. I tried to reduce a cast which is layed on the hole shot, not to change the color of the walls (you can see that there is a very subtle mint color in my version, but perhaps a little to blue as I said).

Actually, it could be closer to how the set would look under a neutral lighting, and of course, the actual lighting was not exactly white, so the highlight should probably be slightly warmer.

But, if you look at the black areas under the red lights on the back ground, they have no reason to be greenish and should be redish. But of course, a green cast can be the consequence of the printing process.

Aniway, those color choices (because there has to be a choice, even with many references) are not simple. 😃

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Oh, I understand, you confused me with “jedimasterobiwan” ! 😄

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UnitéD2 said:

Oh, I understand, you confused me with “jedimasterobiwan” ! 😄

Wow am i really that bad of a person excuse me for living

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jedimasterobiwan said:

UnitéD2 said:

Oh, I understand, you confused me with “jedimasterobiwan” ! 😄

Wow am i really that bad of a person excuse me for living

You came into this thread and acted like people were attacking you when they were leaving you alone. No matter what people do, you accuse them of being jerks. Please just try to calm down and be reasonable when you use the forum.

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jedimasterobiwan said:

UnitéD2 said:

Oh, I understand, you confused me with “jedimasterobiwan” ! 😄

Wow am i really that bad of a person excuse me for living

Just relax, and everything will be fine.

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Keep in mind, also, that with this project we’re looking for the right colors, not necessarily the best. My preference would actually be somewhere between the previous previous grade (more sterile, white) and the warmer grade, perhaps with red saturation dropped a bit - but that’s not what the film looked like. Part of preservation is preserving the “retro state of the art” look, making things look as good as they possibly could THEN. It’s difficult to leave things alone and not make them look as good as you can possibly make them look NOW.

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1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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I like the color of the walls, but I find Treepio a bit too uniform and orangy gold for my tastes. That is how he is in the JSC, but not the GOUT. He’s also not so uniform in the Technicolor sample, but your general grading seem to follow that example even though it has been frequently pointed out that the uncorrected Technicolor prints have some known color issues. I think the cleanup and image quality are fabulous, but I that you need to find some key frames and correct the entire reel as a unit. The best settings will come when the same settings make the blockade runner, Tatooine exteriors, and the droid auction all look right.

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towne32 said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

UnitéD2 said:

Oh, I understand, you confused me with “jedimasterobiwan” ! 😄

Wow am i really that bad of a person excuse me for living

You came into this thread and acted like people were attacking you when they were leaving you alone. No matter what people do, you accuse them of being jerks. Please just try to calm down and be reasonable when you use the forum.

Sorry in the other topics i got teased and i miss interrupt his message and others on this topic as messing with me.