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Yes, the new LPs are reprints of the original soundtrack albums. I’ve got the picture LPs for Star Wars and content-wise they’re identical to my '77 soundtrack album. And I’ve got the new gold LPs for ESB and ROTJ and they also seem to be identical to their '80 and '83 counterparts, Lapti Nek, Yub-Nub and all - and the cover-art seems the same as the old ones too.
I ordered the hologram TFA LP soundtrack about a month ago too but it still has not arrived - can’t wait for that one.

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Harmy said:

Yes, the new LPs are reprints of the original soundtrack albums. I’ve got the picture LPs for Star Wars and content-wise they’re identical to my '77 soundtrack album. And I’ve got the new gold LPs for ESB and ROTJ and they also seem to be identical to their '80 and '83 counterparts, Lapti Nek, Yub-Nub and all - and the cover-art seems the same as the old ones too.
I ordered the hologram TFA LP soundtrack about a month ago too but it still has not arrived - can’t wait for that one.

Before seeing this post I had no idea there were new LPs apart from the picture discs. I’ve never been very fond of picture discs, but I had just ordered the ANH one an hour before and was prepared to wait however many months for the other two just because I’ve wanted these on vinyl for ages and I’m not willing to dish out the insane prices for used copies on Amazon. Luckily I popped into this thread, cancelled the order, drove to Barnes & Noble and snagged the whole set. So thanks.

Also, I picked up the hologram TFA LP last month. You have to basically be shining a flashlight straight into it for it to work, but it’s pretty cool.

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timemeddler said:

anyone considered maybe fox is the problem, mind you Im not giving disney and kind of break, i’ve been boycotting them for other reasons for some time now but if alamo roadhouse advertises 97 special edition and then they show 2011 version, could it be that fox pushed their “distribution Rights” I mean unlike alot of disney films, star wars can’t even be screen by non-profits, yes I checked. I may be spit-balling, but I’m just wondering if it’s not just disney? Maybe?

Are you sure?

'97 prints of ANH and RotJ were still being shown at the AFI Silver as of just two years ago.

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joefavs said:

Harmy said:

Yes, the new LPs are reprints of the original soundtrack albums. I’ve got the picture LPs for Star Wars and content-wise they’re identical to my '77 soundtrack album. And I’ve got the new gold LPs for ESB and ROTJ and they also seem to be identical to their '80 and '83 counterparts, Lapti Nek, Yub-Nub and all - and the cover-art seems the same as the old ones too.
I ordered the hologram TFA LP soundtrack about a month ago too but it still has not arrived - can’t wait for that one.

Before seeing this post I had no idea there were new LPs apart from the picture discs. I’ve never been very fond of picture discs, but I had just ordered the ANH one an hour before and was prepared to wait however many months for the other two just because I’ve wanted these on vinyl for ages and I’m not willing to dish out the insane prices for used copies on Amazon. Luckily I popped into this thread, cancelled the order, drove to Barnes & Noble and snagged the whole set. So thanks.

Also, I picked up the hologram TFA LP last month. You have to basically be shining a flashlight straight into it for it to work, but it’s pretty cool.

Finally got it yesterday. Here’s a 3D video I made of it: https://youtu.be/MgKxLXWGzc0

PS: Sorry for the off topic - is there a thread to discuss this stuff?

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Man, now we’re getting lp reissues of the original score albums?! Can the actual movies be far behind?

I think it’s worth noting that the Close Encounters and Blade Runner ultimate sets were both released on blu-ray fairly soon after that format’s debut. Lucasfilm took its sweet time puting the movies out on dvd, but they were speedier with blu-ray. If you count from the end of the format war with hd-dvd, they only waited a little over three years. If they put I-VI out on 4k UHD next year, they would only be accelerating things by a year or so.

Of course, I’ve long suspected that Disney will want to put out TFA and Rogue One on UHD first, kind of like how LFL released TPM on dvd first. The other parallel is that we’re once again in the middle of another trilogy of new movies being made. I could easily see them waiting until the year before Episode IX’s theatrical release to bow I-VI on the latest format. We could very well end up with a year and a half between new Star Wars movies if IX isn’t hitting until December of 2019. In today’s franchise landscape, that’s a pretty long stretch of time they’ll need to kill.

I feel like we would’ve heard something by now if Disney was prepping in earnest for a restored 40th anniversary OOT release. Mike Verta’s comments on his meeting with them certainly don’t inspire confidence. Maybe next year will be the 3D versions released in theaters and then on 3D blu, if only to get that out of the way.

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Harmy said:

joefavs said:

Harmy said:

Yes, the new LPs are reprints of the original soundtrack albums. I’ve got the picture LPs for Star Wars and content-wise they’re identical to my '77 soundtrack album. And I’ve got the new gold LPs for ESB and ROTJ and they also seem to be identical to their '80 and '83 counterparts, Lapti Nek, Yub-Nub and all - and the cover-art seems the same as the old ones too.
I ordered the hologram TFA LP soundtrack about a month ago too but it still has not arrived - can’t wait for that one.

Before seeing this post I had no idea there were new LPs apart from the picture discs. I’ve never been very fond of picture discs, but I had just ordered the ANH one an hour before and was prepared to wait however many months for the other two just because I’ve wanted these on vinyl for ages and I’m not willing to dish out the insane prices for used copies on Amazon. Luckily I popped into this thread, cancelled the order, drove to Barnes & Noble and snagged the whole set. So thanks.

Also, I picked up the hologram TFA LP last month. You have to basically be shining a flashlight straight into it for it to work, but it’s pretty cool.

Finally got it yesterday. Here’s a 3D video I made of it: https://youtu.be/MgKxLXWGzc0

PS: Sorry for the off topic - is there a thread to discuss this stuff?

This is so cool. Can I ask what’s the turntable you’re using? I am searching for one for many years, and all which have good reviews are not available in this geographic location

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It’s an old Tesla NC420 - it’s not the best turntable but with a new Ortofon OM5E cartridge it’s very serviceable. If you don’t want to spend a fortune, you’re probably better off buying a used turntable from the 70s.

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I think what he said was he was having trouble even getting the meeting, so they have nothing to be impressed by yet.

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Well, that makes room for some hope then…
But the fact that it’s hard to get them interested at all is reason for concern, right?

And does anybody think that LFL could create a better version than Legacy? I’m very interested in that. I can’t see them putting in the research, time and care Mike and Harmy have put into their versions.
I can’t see an official release being better than Despecialized if they turn Legacy down.

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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Speaking of the original vinyls, I have the original release vinyls for the whole trilog in excellent condition. Covers in good shape, records have no skips and barely even pop or hiss. They sound better than any CD release. If somebody wants to pay shipping they can have them for free. They deserve to have a better home than mine. I don’t really care for soundtrack like I once did.

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ray_afraid said:

And does anybody think that LFL could create a better version than Legacy?

Yes. Scanning right off of the negative and doing an accurate grade to an unfaded release print would destroy Legacy.

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AntcuFaalb said:

ray_afraid said:

And does anybody think that LFL could create a better version than Legacy?

Yes. Scanning right off of the negative and doing an accurate grade to an unfaded release print would destroy Legacy.

Is the negative still around? I’ve heard varying reports.
And do you think they’re willing to do an accurate grade? And could they resist the urge to mess with things?
I guess I asked the wrong question. It’s not a matter of could they, but would they.

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep it in their back pocket until the Star Wars money-making machine slows down a little after Episode IX. But I’d be equally unsurprised if they put it out next year packaged with the 3D versions, maybe charging a little extra in the process because they know how ravenous we’ll be for it.

Actually, now that I think about it, that might be the most likely scenario of all.

RotJ 3D would’ve been hitting theaters next year anyway if they’d kept to Rick McCallum’s original schedule. I could see them either just puting out the OT in theaters in 3D or (somehow) showing all six. RotS would look amazing in 3D, so I doubt they’d skip the PT.

They could include the unaltered version in multi-disc individual releases for each movie. I’d prefer the '97 version as well, but I’d gladly say “good enough” if the SE is properly revamped. Let’s be honest, I think we’ll all be happy enough if they just get the unaltered trilogy right.

It would make more sense to wait a while before releasing on 4k UHD. The technology ecosystem involved will take some time to fully mature (it’s called rec 2020 for a reason), and Disney will fully control the five non-ANH movies by then. Maybe that’s when they do the “all versions” edition.

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ray_afraid said:

AntcuFaalb said:

ray_afraid said:

And does anybody think that LFL could create a better version than Legacy?

Yes. Scanning right off of the negative and doing an accurate grade to an unfaded release print would destroy Legacy.

I guess I asked the wrong question. It’s not a matter of could they, but would they.

Maybe better stated as: anyone with access to the resources LFL has access to could create a far better version than Legacy… with the exception of LFL, who couldn’t find it with both hands.

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MalàStrana said:

By the way, aren’t the recently released LP based on the original LP ? “Ewok Celebration and Finale”, is it the 1983 cue or the 1997 one ?

If the digital releases are the same sources as the new LPs, I have reason to believe that it is the '83 cue.

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Also, it is pretty possible for Disney to release a box set of the Original Trilogy but for standalone releases, only The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi will have them while Fox releases Star Wars.

Disney can include Star Wars in a box set as long as they’re doing it under license from Fox.

They did it with The Incredible Hulk (Universal Studios) in the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One box set and also with Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (Eastern Star Media) in The Collected Works of Hayao Miyazaki box set but Disney never did a standalone release of either The Incredible Hulk or Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro.

They can also do their own disc for Star Wars.
While The Incredible Hulk only copy-pasted the standalone Universal disc in the MCU: Phase One box set, the Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro disc in the Hayao Miyazaki box set is different than the standalone Eastern Star Media disc.

Maybe Disney can release the Original Unaltered Trilogy box set in Ultra HD Blu-ray, Blu-ray and DVD as well standalone versions of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in said formats while Fox does a standalone release of Star Wars to go along the Disney releases.

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

20th Century Fox is still the distributor for physical media releases for all movies in the series.

Yes, I know, what I am saying is when the copyrights for the physical media releases transfer to Disney (aka. 2020).

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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Swift S. Lawliet said:

MalàStrana said:

By the way, aren’t the recently released LP based on the original LP ? “Ewok Celebration and Finale”, is it the 1983 cue or the 1997 one ?

If the digital releases are the same sources as the new LPs, I have reason to believe that it is the '83 cue.

Vinyl and digital were the original i.e. Ewok Celebration & Lapti Nek, the CDs were SE i.e. Victory Celebration & Jedi Rocks.

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GlastoEls said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

MalàStrana said:

By the way, aren’t the recently released LP based on the original LP ? “Ewok Celebration and Finale”, is it the 1983 cue or the 1997 one ?

If the digital releases are the same sources as the new LPs, I have reason to believe that it is the '83 cue.

Vinyl and digital were the original i.e. Ewok Celebration & Lapti Nek, the CDs were SE i.e. Victory Celebration & Jedi Rocks.

Actually, there are two digital releases (at least on iTunes).

The 1997 soundtrack (with the cover art from the 2004 DVD) and the Ultimate Digital Collection.

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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The problem is the version of Yub Nub on the soundtrack is the terrible version with overdubs of annoying Ewoks. The version actually used in the film is far superior, but can only be found on the old pre-SE Anthology CD set from th early 90s.