Thanks Mavimao. Also I found this http://savestarwars.com/specialeditionfail.html which covers the audio issues to a reasonable extent, and is an overall good summary/rant of most of what is wrong with everything since the '97 SE.
Harmy, transferring between two internal drives over SATA is the optimal approach, but barring that being available to you, USB3.0 (if connected to a 3.0 port) is up there in speed with eSATA (also a good option, if available), so working between system drive and USB3.0 drive should be adequate. Where the most disk I/O is occurring is what you'll want to have the quickest access to, assuming most of the work being done is processing on the source files and the destination is mostly for outputting the result, then you'll want the source files on your local system drive, and let the output go straight to the external disc (and its far better than processing files and writing the output within just a single disk drive, the seek time would get crazy and you'd frag your disk much more than necessary). Location of the exe, .bat and .avs probably don't matter a whole lot, either, as they'll probably be running mostly from RAM anyway.
That link is informative, but not for my question, in it he merely dismisses the 2004 mix (and beyond) as abominable and almost completely invalid, rather than stating actual differences and deficiencies. As CatBus suggested, if an audio guy could give a more technically accurate description, I'd like to know what exactly they messed up with the official mix. I love to hate on the SE's and having even more specific reasons at my disposal to hate them would, strangely, make me happier.
Since we're on the subject of audio and this forum is so difficult to search, I'll ask this one question on the subject. I keep seeing people ask if Hairy's 5.1 reconstruction is 'better' than the Blu-ray audio, to which the response is always that it blows it out of the water. What I'm wondering is in what aspects exactly does it best it? Outside of it avoiding obvious SE changes (effects choices, C3P0 tractor beam voice overs, blast doors, etc.), did they somehow mess up how things sound in general; are the audio channels perhaps messed up, or something sound weird throughout, etc.?
@michaelkirschner That probably comes down to preference more than anything. If people grew up with one take ('85 mix for instance), they might prefer that, though those same people might be fed up with the years upon years of constant changes and want to experience it as close to what was original as possible. I know I grew up with Full Frame TV broadcast recordings and then VHS, and Episode IV A New Hope in the crawl is somewhat normal to me as is the sound mix that goes with those version, but I'm happiest watching it as it was supposed to be, without revisions (and certainly not cropped to 4:3 anymore).
Also, I've heard from a person whom watched Star Wars an ungodly ~70 times in '77 in a backwater theater that only had the mono track, and steadfastly insists against anything released since then as being at all proper, he's unhappy unless it has the odd sounding Beru and all the other different bits, since he memorized the movie exactly that way. So, watching it as remembered from experiences in '77, be it mono, stereo or the 70mm's take on surround, is another cause for preference.
In short, all tracks have merit and are looked on differently by different people; it is really nice to have all these different audio tracks available, for both viewing pleasure and the sake of preservation.
Personally, I'll stick with the 5.1 70mm reconstruction for most serious viewings, but I won't lie, I'll be checking out the '85 and the '93 as well (can't stomach much more than just spot checking the mono, though, it is just too 'off' for me).
Well, if the changes are small enough, you presumably could make a patch of it for everyone that's already grabbed 2.1 and someone make a new torrent with the updated 2.5 version AVCHD so the 2.1 stops getting served after that...
@animemaakuo As per the rules stated for this whole project, which no doubt you've read, you should own the source materials so as not to pirate its content through obtaining the 2.1. So just pop in your official Blu-ray if you'd like to compare the two.
The right speed color wheel can do a lot to get rid of the rainbow effect, and admittedly my W1070 is 2000 lumen, but it is as bright of a home projector as I've seen, it can be seen pretty well in a lit room, and I'm throwing around 140" - 150", and could easily see this going beyond 180" without looking shabby...
BTW, which anime convention are you referring to?
@Guspaz I also disagree with the LCD vs DLP thing, at least in most part. If you get a good enough DLP (fast ~6x color wheel, and at least Dark Chip 3 for a single chip), I'd take it any day over a similarly priced LCD. The motion is better, if nothing else. And say what you will about brightness, but this W1070 is nothing short of a light cannon.
Personally, I think talk about the projectors we are enjoying v2.1 on celebrates Harmy's work, and isn't entirely off topic (at least until serious 2.5 talk starts rolling in... after people watch it on their varied and awesome setups).
Ipd, I also have an Optoma HD65, it has served me well for years, and the replacement bulb was an incredible value... but I've just recently upgraded to a BenQ W1070, and the difference is very noticeable (let's face it, the '65 just isn't quite bright enough for pushing over 140 inches). If you get a chance to upgrade to something similar, the brightness and contrast difference is a revelation. Can't wait to do more than just spot check 2.1 on this beast.
Michael, I think he means that was the best they could do at the time and he made it look as it did then, so it can look obvious and still be acceptable.
@djchaseb that's a pretty snazzy trilogy cover, might you have a link?
Yes, we should all practice safe viewing.
chyron8472 said:
yoda-sama said:
Any way you go, it is hard to see why Windows has the dominance it does, and Windows 8 only goes to prove that it shouldn't realistically be so ubiquitous.People don't use Macs as much because they have fewer games and because they're more expensive for the same processing power.
People don't use Linux as much because, again there are *MUCH* fewer games, the number of flavors is confusing, and (likely depending more or less on the flavor), it requires a certain understanding about command line usage.
Windows has certain proprietary advantages over Linux; and it has a smaller price point and more power user abilities than Mac OS.
People say that Mac OS is better because there are no viruses, but the reason why is because the market share is so small. If the market share for Mac in any way rivaled that of Windows, you can bet your ass there would indeed be viruses.
The command line thing is mostly a myth anymore, at least with any modern main-stream distro, which any new user would basically only fall into something Debian based (Ubuntu or Mint) or (less likely) Red Hat based (Fedora). The plethora of distros beyond that cater to preferences and choice of more venerable users. And as far as the age old games argument, with the hardcore push by Valve for native Linux support of Steam and Windows 8 Store's competitiveness with traditional Windows game distribution (publishers aren't all thrilled with that), I think we should reserve judgement until we see how things pan out in this current landscape. Plus, we'll just have to see if Microsoft's proprietary lure can overcome that horrid new interface (keep in mind, even if some of you find it usable with third party start buttons, you aren't going to see that on corporate systems, which makes it a much less usable choice for business), that and Linux has its own unique strengths that can be attractive to businesses.
Also, you won't see me defending Mac, so I guess that wraps up this bit of off topic for me.
Topic... on topic... um... v2.1 works great in Linux!
Harmy, I've spot checked a few things in the 2.1 and just want to say what a massive improvement Alec Guinness' opening scenes are, because of your color tweaks the picture no longer looks blown out or the characters difficult to distinguish from the background like it was in 2.0. Phenomenal job. Also, I'd like to note that in my 30 years, this is the first that I've noticed just how tattered Ben's robes are in that scene; thanks for bringing my nostalgia back in a very vivid way.
Mavimao said:
Uh, I would have had it this morning if Windows wasn't a dork and automatically downloaded updates and restarted my computer in the middle of the night! Is this a common thing? I have a mac, but needed to bootcamp into windows for work and began downloading the film in the background. At least OS x has the common curtosy to not reboot unless you ask it to!!
Rant over- I can't wait to come back home and watch it!!
You'd think they'd consider more than just the lowest common denominator of PC user skills, but Microsoft doesn't. You can turn that off manually by adjusting your automatic update settings to have it just notify you rather than automatically downloading or installing. That or stay on OSX or switch to Linux (as I use 90+% of the time). Any way you go, it is hard to see why Windows has the dominance it does, and Windows 8 only goes to prove that it shouldn't realistically be so ubiquitous.
CatBus said:
yoda-sama said:Wow, this gives me some inspiration on how to one day approach this with my future children... I've been wondering about it for a while, really hate dubs and haven't been wanting to introduce such things to them in what I feel is sub-par/wrong version.
I was totally trying not to further add to this thread derail. Did everyone notice how good I was being? For like half an hour, even. Nevertheless, don't get too excited about the prospect of your kid liking subbed movies. My oldest boy also didn't mind watching (coincidentally!) subbed Kiki when he was three. Now he's five and he has no patience at all for it. Perhaps because he can read now, but not fast enough to keep up, and the subs are frustrating for him.
What is good one day can be bad the next, that's parenthood. Also don't get excited about your toddler who's not at all afraid of swimming, or who likes eating vegetables. Things change. Every day! Then they change back again just to throw you off.
Thanks for the advise, it is so noted. And while it will be a great challenge to keep them into original language shows (hopefully they'll at least not develop nostalgia for just the dub), I hope they'll never grow out of original version Star Wars (and thus, I bring this back to topic).
Hopefully almost the last bit of off topic from me: is getting a separate ADSL modem not an option? The Tomato USB firmware, removable antenna, flash, RAM and amount of connections it can sustain are pretty desirable features on the RT-N16, though the X3000 doesn't look like a shabby hybrid of gigabit, N and ADSL...
We can move this conversation to a PM if you wish.
davextreme said:
CatBus said:
I've got young kids, so while I prefer to watch everything subbed (and I'm even one of those snooty ones who also prefers the literal subs on the Japanese discs), I'll be watching with dubs exclusively for many, many years and they may grow on me.
Briefly off-topic: I was surprised with how my 3-year-old daughter took to the Japanese on Kiki's Delivery Service. We watch it in either English or Japanese and I think since she knows what's happening she just goes with the flow. Plus kids are used to stuff going over their heads all the time so I think she just doesn't mind it. But we watch English probably 80% of the time.
Harmy, thank you for all your work on this. Alexandria, VA, USA here.
Wow, this gives me some inspiration on how to one day approach this with my future children... I've been wondering about it for a while, really hate dubs and haven't been wanting to introduce such things to them in what I feel is sub-par/wrong version.
You_Too, if you don't need dual band on your wireless N, I'd suggest getting an ASUS RT-N16 and installing Tomato USB firmware on it. I've been very happy with it, it is a very capable and well equipped router.
I wasn't complaining at him for just not reading back pages, all the questions he's asked have been thoroughly answered between his posts, so I had to ask how he missed what should be obvious to anyone keeping up. He's too busy to read, and that's at least a reason.
Fair enough.
animemaakuo, do you even read this forum?
TV's Frink said:
INv8r_ZIM said:
Ginge said:
Guspaz said:
A theatrical release of Phantom Menace seems like a waste of Harmy's considerable talents. Getting to see Jar Jar in all his theatrical glory is not something I particularly feel a need to do :P
I couldn't agree more, a theatrical Phantom Menace is a complete waste of time. You can't polish a turd... the prequels are garbage and should be forgotten.
In both of your opinions, of course, you forgot to say. I'll go OT for a second while we wait for updates from Harmy, and understand you're getting to stand in for a whole bunch of people here. As I get older I find this to be the single most depressing part of the internet; when people get to be utterly anonymous and never have to actually face the people they speak at, they have no problem making sweeping generalizations, using insane rhetoric, acting as if their opinion were fact, and treating anyone who disagrees with them like a drooling moron, clearly not up to their intellectual level.
In any event, don't worry, I'll make sure to tell my kids, who enjoy AotC and RotS, how wrong and stupid they are because the films are garbage without any merit at all.
Well this thread sure got interesting all of the sudden. :p
Yeah, I know, now he's trying to argue that children are smart... Children like Jar-Jar, children are not smart, QED.