sketchrob

I'll say this one more time, you can teach someone to draw, you can teach them to model, and yes you CAN teach them to edit... however, you cannot teach quality, you have to be able to see quality if you wish to attain it. I've tutored many students when  I was in college, I've art directed in studio as well, and in my expierience theres a great divide between those who want to be congratulated for anything they do and those who want honest critique. I'm sorry Fishmanlee, but these clips are pretty bad, I would take ANY advice Ady has to give you very, very seriously.

Ady - Crazy stuff with that postoffice... I just hope hen the zombie apaocalyopse occurs that postal workers get thier due :p IF yo uget the chance to snap come pics hile yur building the Falcon I think it ould be great to share those if not weekly :)

Angel - if you use Firefox, get the free ADBlock addon then right click on Fishmanlees sig and block it. Problem solved :)

adywan said:

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

This is still just a test shot to show that it's possible to use CG for this shot, I'd assume if Ady wants to progress down this route then he'd supply or have more specific ideas about the bckground mountain range etc...

this all looks amazing. would it be possible to PM me your email address please Serji-X Arrogantus so i can chat with you about the CG footage? It will be easier going through emails because my PM inbox here just keeps filling up.

 

Well its looking FANTASTIC! I think you should hook up with Angel too to co-ordinate some of those HD Mattes or display grafix, this project gets better and better.. ;)

I guess in my own little fantasy world, the Old Republic would look more like McQuarrie art and less like ROTS. That being said, Bioware (Like Gendy Tartakovsky before them) showed us all once again that anyone BUT Lucas can make Jedi supreme badasses.

vbangle said:

"its called talent"

LMAO.... or you could just use this right???

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

Here are two versions of a Hoth landscape in Vue, the first is using Vue's own sky generator and the 2nd is a high rez photograph mapped onto a plane and positioned behind the mountains.

That second one looks dope, any chance you could render a test vid?

Please, Mods, are you out there??? Please move this thread to the general Star Wars discussion area, apparently Janskeet does not get it...

Any updates Todd?

Janskeet said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Is that supposed to be funny?

Vaderios told me to contribute creatively in the ESB topic, so I did.

Hey don't throw Angel under the bus for posting rubbish like that lol thats what you get for trying Angel! :p

ben_danger said:

'revenge of the sith' was a good title...but...it is blatantly recycling of the 'revenge of the jedi'. i would like to keep the sith thing quiet if i were to do an edit, have the first mention of it coming from palpatine. coming up with a good title is always tricky. 'the black knight rises' or whichever title JasonN used was great, but annoyinly is only relevant to the end of the film. if an edit managed to have vader in the film somehow close to the beginning (maybe as an aparition or dream) then it would make for a perfect title.

I sorta saw Black Knight Rises as a homage to Return of the King, sort of setting up the end of the film in both titles. Being that Return of the King was orig, War of the Ring... perhaps, War of the Sith? lol sigh...

Actually I think the word is "Passion" to have talent you must be able to SEE quality, I think you have alot to learn in that area. I'm out this thread, good luck with the skillz Fish.

LSMaker?

Fish all I'm saying is rushing to create a post that states you can do the impossible isnt exactly the greatest way for generating credibility, now  I usually ignore these claims but when people start taking them seriously I just... cant... let.. it go.. lol I'm sure you have the passion but relaize this, no program can make up for talent, if you want to rotoscope, go learn After Effects or Mocha, if you want to rebuild a scene from ground up in SFX/Music start small and post your work, but stating yur gonna use Hypercube to disassemble the entire 5.1 mix of ROTJ is like me claiming I can throw a twinkie into a blender to disassemble the ingredients to build an even bigger twinkie :p

fishmanlee said:

sketchrob said:

I doubt your skillz, if not your judgement over a quality product... but thats just me, I may be wrong... lol right.

 

 wanna see skillz? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_2KD2KeoVo,

So the vid is called ROTJ with BLUE saber and more audio... Dude that saber is blue AND green..

And then you call this clip Luke and Vader Revisted, which I suppose is a call out to Adys edits, and DUDE those sabers are HUUUUGGGEEEEE I rest my case.. I have seen the skillz and I find them... lacking :P

RoccondilRinon said:

You don't deserve credit on a movie if you don't do anything to help in its making.

Amen brutha.

No Angel they did not... as well as the opening credits... neither have dialogue or SFX, again I call upon logic to answer this question "Can you remove/separate dialogue, SFX, ambient noise and Music from a 5.1 mix?" the answer is no you cannot. You cant even guarantee a clean center channel, being that the mix will carry over into center channel sometimes (a fact I HATE mind you.. makes fan-editing a ton more difficult).

So, Fishmanlee, please do yourself a favor and post something of real substance/proof otherwise yur getting the hopes up of many editors dreaming of the idea of a clean mix to draw from. Personally, I think judging by the quality for your Poster for the "ReScore" I doubt your skillz, if not your judgement over a quality product... but thats just me, I may be wrong... lol right.

DarthBo said:

if that isn't proof enough for the disbelievers, I don't know what is!

Rrrrriiiigggghhhhtttt.... gosh I hope yur being sarcastic... lmao

brash_stryker said

Jeez, sorry dude. All I was saying was it makes more sense than ATTACK.

Personally, I'd have no mention of clones at all.

Aw its all tongue in cheek my friend just playin around lol the funny part is  I would have settled For AintitCools  rumored version of the title "A Shadow Falls" has a cool A New Hope feel to it, not so pulpy/30's corn... but again its all very subjective.

brash_stryker said:

RISE OF THE CLONES.

OMG, I swear if one more film puts the term RISE OF in their title again, I'll throw myself from my apt window as fast as I can lol

Rise of the Machines

Rise of the Lycans

Rise of Cobra....

I predict... Breakin 3 - Rise of the Boogaloo... or The Endor Chronicles - Rise of the Golden God .... or Batteries STILL Not Included - Rise of the Saucer Bots from Mars....oh, one last one... Snakes on ANOTHER Plane - Rise of Sam Jackson's Salary lol okay back on topic.... WAIT Spaceballs 3 - Rise of Spaceballs 2....

SilverKey said:

I think there is a very interesting movie hidden in AOTC, but what was good about it was lost in editing and reshoots.

To be fair, thats ho I feel about the entire PT lol somewhere in there is a hidden gem lol AOTC is the least watchable in its released form imo, I cant believe Lucas went around the MTV awards before shooting claimng the fight scenes in ATOC would rival the first Matrix film lol to me its the least interesting by virtue of the weak romance which is at the center of the film, its also the HD Video  it was filmed on lol it really looked like an all CGI film, and I wont lie at the time  I was all for HD Video, I as like EFF Film, Lucas is ahead of the curve!!! then I saw AOTC.... and i was like "So this is what Photoshop the Movie would look like..." lol and that so-called fight between Obi and Jango... just made me miss Darth Maul that much more... personally I think JasonN has done the best job with editing that flick, but there is so much more from a visual and editing perspective to do that I wonder if Ady (yes JasonN I used his name in ref to edits.. please dont kill me) will not just give up when he gets to it lol

HA!  I knew there was something strange about that guy, great call Ady.. and Angel too funny! :p

Yup and not just other sounds, musical cues too, you cant remove them without destroying some of the existing sound that accompanies it, which means you'll kill pieces of the orig dialouge. Editing sound isn't like modifying art in Photoshop, there are no layers, just wavelengths.

For example, I have a scene in my edit I'm working on that I have to rebuild sound wise all the way from the ground up and its hard, really freaking hard. If I hadn't spent so many years in school taking classes on how to do it I would prob have given up by now, I couldn't imagine trying to rebuild the SFX for an ENTIRE Star Wars film.

And thats assuming you could isolate the center channel in a clean mix, which is hardly ever the case. There's so many little things going on in a mix, from echoes, to ambient sounds,... like take a blaster for example, that blaster could go off in the RS channel, move to the L Channel then end in Center . So Say you delete the RS and L channel, you still need to eliminate the Center part and say that part is mixed in during alot of talking...

yeah... then when you have do that to an entire film, you then have to REBUILD the L and RS channels from scratch without having all the orig ILM elements. SO you then have to grab from game files or god knows what...

Sorry I'm calling huge shenanigans on this one... editing a film is one thing, color correcting, add/changing mattes are another. But the soundmix you cannot mess with, you either cut it, clean it, or rebuild it. Removing sound-fx and music from a 5.1 mix just cannot be done I've come to believe this post is alot of talk and wishful thinking.

You know having taken many audio classes in college I can say on some authority, I have a really hard time believing this is possible. Removing sounds is a matter of frequency slecting, then toning out said frequency. So far all you've done is claim what you "want" to do, or "if" it is possible. Please do yourself a favor, post something thats already done before announcing it, if you have a selection of film that has all the audio elements removed and seperated, then show us cause until then I chalk this up to wishful thinking. Sorry for being the voice of disbelief on this one, but I just dont think what you want to do is possible.

doubleofive said:

Yes, it comes in 900 pieces, and he has to build it, paint it, weather it, and he wants to light it.  That's why he gave the release date of "2010".  He has the rest of this year and could take all of next year doing this. ;-)

Yeah... its crazy detailed lol cant wait to see progress updates just on building the model :)

Can we all just ignore Janskeet now? I mean really this is a person who so-called "joked" about being Ady's boss, and has since made useless questions about obvious changes without ever checking to see first... *sigh*

Next thing you know he's gonna question Ady as to why he transitioned form one dvd menu to the other or something just as useless. I think we've all been pretty nice to the guy but really at this point i'm pretty sure its the  "ignore button" ftw.

Hey everyone, thx for the  thx! lol Yes its the same Fine Molds Model and thx to Ziz or whoever who tipped Ady on here to go, now we can all breathe a sigh of releif and see how building the damn thing goes lol Cant wait to see the progress Ady! and the show goes on...

No prob Ady, cant wait to see the results, thats one crazy model :)