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#210700
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210700/action/topic#210700
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Once we know for a FACT they are non anamorphic I shall send a polite e-mail to 20th Century Fox (who have Lucasfilm by the nuts lets face it as far as DVDs are concerned!) saying they will be killing sales if this release isn't anamorphic. Anyone with me on this?

And Eros I will be watching them on a projector mmmkay?!? But that's NOT the point.... would you - for example - pay for a full price limited edition collectors CD of an all-time top selling favourite album knowing it was mastered from a tape?!? And willingly pay full price?!?
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#210673
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210673/action/topic#210673
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Why don't you read exactly WHY we are not happy?

It's like - for example - Bowie or The Stones suddenly re-doing their back catalogue of albums and pretending originals never happened. Then 'giving in' after pressure from the public and releasing new versions AGAIN and saying the original will come with it... then finding out the original is mastered from a cassette...... Then having them smugly saying the new one is better quality and "I told you so".... Just not on and NOT at full bloody retail price!!! PLUS many of us already have the 2004 editions now anyway and we have to get these AGAIN with the original release. It's F-ing obscene marketing!
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#210670
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210670/action/topic#210670
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Well the shakies are part of the original experience so, personally, I want those left in but can see why they'd bug you, but yeah no anamorphic (again IFFFFF true!) is just unforgiveable being as they did it on the film clips in Empire of Dreams and other clips throughout that disc.... Surely this non anamorphic thing can't be true?!?
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#210650
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210650/action/topic#210650
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Subsequent releases?!? are you kidding? haha! How many releases do we need to buy in the meantime - he's had FAR too much money from us over the years as it is. Bet he's laughing his bearded ass off at us right now....

If it really is non anamorphic then they have REALLY dropped the ball with this one. This is Star Wars for gawds sake - unbelievable.
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#210620
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210620/action/topic#210620
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"But remember that this contradicts Darth First's information. So I'm waiting to see."

Yeah me to - I don't doubt the Digital Bits are telling it as they heard it, but it does seem a bit implausable even for Lucasfilm. I mean NOTHING is released these days that's non anamorphic film-wise is it? And this is meant to be THX for firks sake!
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#210589
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210589/action/topic#210589
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Something isn't right about all this - I have read several times now that they have had the original versions of the films chemically washed for this release? If so that means a fresh transfer and not the LD masters.... Now if THAT is the case the only reason it wouldn't be anamorphic is to deliberately make them appear visually inferior to the SE editions which are also included.... I mean that's the only reason I can see for it being Non Anamorphic.

If it IS from the LD masters, then are they going to 'cheat' and digitally recreate the opening crawl sans the New Hope bit?!? And - worse - if it is LD sauced then that means the 1995 mix doesn't it whilst not bad, it's hardly original.

Looking forward to hearing something more official about these releases....
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#210570
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210570/action/topic#210570
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It just sucks... call me paranoid but I'm sure this has been done to make the SE's appear better, and to 'prove' to the general population once and for all that the SE's are ultimately superior in everyway....

If this REALLY is true Lucas can stick it where the sun don't shine I've just about had enough of his bullshit attitude - I'll just borrow these off a mate when it comes out instead...... I really don't understand Lucasfilm these days....
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#210557
Topic
New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210557/action/topic#210557
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Oh dear......

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

" We've confirmed something that we'd begun to suspect... and it's probably going to disappoint a lot of you. It certainly disappoints us here at The Bits. Those new DVD editions of the Star Wars films? The original theatrical versions of the films are going to be non-anamorphic (our original post on this indicated otherwise, but we have confirmed that the widescreen versions will be letterboxed only). What this likely means is that Lucasfilm has simply re-purposed the previous non-anamorphic transfers that were done back in 1995 for the last laserdisc and VHS release of the "original" versions of the films. And with that, our enthusiasm for this DVD release has just dropped through the floor. Anamorphic-enhanced versions of the theatrical editions, we'd buy in a heartbeat. But what we're going to get instead is little better than a ported-over laserdisc. In this day and age, releasing a widescreen film without anamorphic enhancement on DVD is just unacceptable. Does Lucasfilm really think fans want those versions of the films on DVD so badly that people just won't care? Yes Virginia, they do. How many versions of these films do you suppose Lucasfilm will try to get fans to buy in high-def over the coming years? And think about it... you just know the studio has to be prepping yet another standard DVD release for next year's 30th Anniversary of the original Star Wars. Do you suppose this means that the theatrical editions won't be included in the super-über box set of all six films? Probably. Ugh."

Looks like these are being treated like 'afterthoughts' bonus material and not like the classics they are.....

Thanks George....
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#210390
Topic
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210390/action/topic#210390
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Noticed in that link it says we'll now have the 1997 and 2004 versions - !!!! aghhhhhh! hahahaha - of course this is a typo but bet it got a few souls worried ;-)

Can't wait for this release - I only came to Star Wars (the films) in 1980 with a double bill with Empire (WHAT an introduction to cinema - will never forget it!), prior to that is was the figures, novels and radio series!! Will be cool to see the original 1977 version, i just hope they include the original mixes (mono and stereo).

- JohnM
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#64715
Topic
Laserdisc/Dual-Layer DVDr (And "hello" from my first post!)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64715/action/topic#64715
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Hi there!

Been following this thread with interest.

From what I've been reading on the net recently about the DVD documentary (Empire of Dreams) most, if not all (? - haven't seen it yet) of the original versions of scenes are in that, and they're cleaned up and in anamorphic :-)

Surely these cut be edited into the new cleaned up DVD's without too much trouble?

Just a thought!!

Cheers,

- john.
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#64691
Topic
An angry Review of the 2004 OT SE DVD's
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64691/action/topic#64691
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"Jackson's lousy films are terrible adaptations. Empty, soulless, dumb and worst of all, revisionist."

What in Gawd's name are you going on about man? Jackson has achived a remarkable feat in making these three epic movies. This is REAL movie-making, the way it should be done. REAL solid movie-making using special effects to ENHANCE the story, not overwhelm it! The effects serve the story, NOT the otherway around like the prequals! Soulless? Soulless?!? Yeah if you have zero tolerance for a gripping storyline and fantastic acting and directing! There's REAL emotion, real depth going on in this film - some very lump in the throat moments, if you have an ounce of sensitivity that is... Dumb? Yeah to dumb fucks who can't process all the events going on in this film. Revisionist? What and Luca$ isn't?!? ;-)

There's NO WAY you could film the book exactly as is, and I think Jackson and co hit the nail on the head perfectly with this trilogy. Look at all the hard work that went into it! You must have a two second attention span or something, or can't process anything which is slower paced than your average MTV music video!

All this fanboy 'this film vs that film' crap really bugs me. I like BOTH LOTR and Star Wars (and old-school Star Trek!) - always will!!! Why chosse one over the other if you like them all?!? I'll tell you this though, Jackson is a professional film-maker who loves COLLABORATING with his team to get the best possible results for his films. Lucas has turned into a fat ignornat business man who loves screwing the public for every last $ they have - he's quite happy to accept our money - and yet refuses to listen to what we really want! Have you seen teh prequal documentaries?!? You call THIS a filmmaker? He dishes out orders, or sits back in a comfy chair slurping away on a Coke while his minions display their creations in front of him, and he justs says, "yeah.. nah...nah... but this tit on this guys head!!". The guy has let fame and money gradually go to his head, and nobody has the balls to stand up to him these days! Bring back Gary Kurtz!

Remember that old saying, "absolute power corrupts absolutely" - say no more!!

AGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#64672
Topic
Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64672/action/topic#64672
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Hi everyone!

Not sure if this is the right forum for this - apologies if it isn't, but typing this in a hurry at work ;-)

From several reviews I've read now of the Empire of Dreams documentary on the new Star Wars Trilogy DVD's, I've heard that all the original scenes (which are replaced on the actual DVD films) are in there, in anamorphic widescreen as well!

Surely these can be edited out, and placed into the cleaned up versions of the new DVD's? Has anyone tried this yet, or goign to try it? I only have DVD Shrink, which has very simple editing facilities, but I'll give this a go once my DVD set arrives on the post. Perhaps Lucas has (slyly) given us what we want, but in a very disjointed way?!!!

Cheers,

- John
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#53996
Topic
Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53996/action/topic#53996
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Hi Patrick!

I've got the original "close the blast doors" line in addition to all Beru's lines from the mono version of the film on the "Story of Star Wars" LP. Very good sound quality. The Special Editon version of the blastdoors line was re-recorded for some bizarre reason - maybe they lost the original master for the voice on this? I have a high quality record deck and can send you these if you'd like on a CD as WAV files. You could then splice these into the NTSC version of your DVD's. They'de have to speed up by 4% for PAL versions I believe.

PM me if your interested.

Cheers!

- John
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#53547
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53547/action/topic#53547
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Jimbo: "Yeah but posting something with people who all disagree with you is boring and stupid."

Agreeing with people is stupid then is it Jimbo? - no it isn't! Nor is disagreeing as long as it is constructive! We ARE all here (except you) because we're united in a common goal - we want the original trilogy on DVD. If we can't get it, we'll do it ourselves because we're trying to preserve a valuable piece of film history both for ourselves, and for future generations to enjoy!

Jimbo: "I like posting my ideas hear because very few agree with me."

So from what you've just said you're posting here because basically you enjoy stiring it up. Tip: do it somewhere else please, unless you have something valuable to contribute.

Once again, THIS SITE IS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY and all that that covers. All you seem to be interested in saying is variously, "George is God" "the Special Editions ARE better because I say so" "CGI is always better" "we should be happy with the new DVD's because they're Lucas's vision" etc etc because YOU KNOW it will wind people up. Sorry if that's not true, but that's how your posts read to me over the past 12 months I've been reading 'em!

Sorry folks, but I had to vent my spleen! It won't happen again or by God I'll watch the Phantom Menace on repeat for one day!!! (AGHHH!)
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#53515
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53515/action/topic#53515
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Howdy Scott!!

Interesting - I remember reading somewhere that the 1989 LD was the 70mm sound mix, but I can't remember where I read it. From what you say you're probably right though about it actually being the 35mm version. The 'Close the blast doors' line is not there, but the 'tractor beam is located...' line is there!

I do however have an article where it states that the 1995 faces edition LD (and the definitive collection) was remixed by Ben Burtt from the 70mm sound mix. It also states clearly that he added ina few sound effects. The whooshing of the asteroids, and the laserblast which explodes behind 3PO's head just before they get into the escape pod. Also the explosions of the cameras in the detention block scene has added sounds of glass being smashed. I think it was in the Topps Star Wars monthly from 1997... I'll have to take another look though.

I'm really excited by the prospect of the dual layer discs. Just think, we could have the original versions with three/four different sound tracks reflecting the changes between 35mm 70mm THX etc etc! "The Story of Star Wars" LP is also really useful in hearing different versions of lines and voices. Think this was taken from the mono versions of the film.

To Jimbo: Although I haven't posted here very often, I've been reading the forums for a long time. You seem to enjoy being argumentative and confrontational. Please read the title of this website - www.ORIGINALTRILOGY.com.... this site exists to preserve the original versions! This site is NOT called www.specialeditiontrilogy.com is it! I would appreciate it if you left those of us who love the originals alone! We're not baiting you... why bait us? As has been mentioned, there are plenty of other forums where you can express your love for the prequals or the special editions. But - like I said - perhaps you just get off on being argumentative. Yeah, discussions are great, but petty little childish argumets are not! Please think this over mate before posting again.
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#53383
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53383/action/topic#53383
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Can't believe this is the official artwork - it look so childish!! Agree that that lens flare looks very tacky indeed! What's happening to George Lucas these days? Presumably he OK'd these?! Doh! I was really hoping for some cardboard slip boxes (like UK edition of Fight Club) with the original theatrical posters reproduced in every detail. Oh well..... :-(

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to produce some REALLY retro 70's style (i.e. rounded corners galore!!) original trilogy dvd covers? I know the THX faces edition is (currently!) the best way to experience the non-SE trilogy, but even closer to the version we all would have seen at the cinema were the widescreen Fox LD releases in 1989. Fair enough there's loads of dirt and stuff on the print.. but in a way I kind of like that! This is how I remember it at the cinema - dust specs and all! Call me strange, but I'd rather have the dust and scratches but with a pin sharp picture, rather than the THX versions with so much digital dirt concealment that the image loses it's clarity, and you get that weird digital smearing effect on some fast moving objects - yuck!! Also the 1989 LD version has the original 70mm soundtracks (plus C3PO's line of dialogue which was missing from the THX versions). Star Wars on the faces edition LD's was totally remixed by Ben Burtt, with a few new sound effects added in that certainly weren't there when we all saw it in the cinema! The other two films were just cleaned up, but not remixed.

Once my Laserdisc player has been given a proper service, and calibrated up to the highest standards by a professional, then I'll be archiving these original editions onto DVD-r's... I'll keep you posted! It would be grand to have some retro DVD covers to go with this set though - the funkier the better!!!

The challange has been set - so put on yer flares, cue up yer Star Wars Meco LP and get designing folks!!

- John

P.S. Cerbero - awsome covers mate!!!
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#52002
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/52002/action/topic#52002
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These DVD's look awsome!! I'm confused how you've managed to fit the original PCM soundtrack from the laserdisc onto the DVD-r, plus the commentary, plus the film itself without severely compromising the bit rate of the film? Is the soundtrack compressed or a straight copy of the original PCM stream?

Have burnt some DVD-R's from my 'faces' laserdiscs using a stand alone Panasonic DVD recorder, but I think the PC route is probably better as you can correct the colour, and make the black bars truly black. The colour balance on Empire in particular is terrible on my laserdisc.. it looks very washed out, and the digital noise reduction THX used for the hoth sequences looks really bad as well. I will be interested to see how your version looks.

Love all this home-brew Star Wars DVD stuff :-)