pittrek

The Phantom Menace is just boredom. The only reason why to watch it is the John Williams score and that it’s the best looking Star Wars prequel.
I actually LIKE AOTC (yes, I’m the one person who likes it). But still, the only thing I really like are the action scenes, because those are the only scenes in the whole prequel trilogy where I feel something and care about anything what’s going on.
Which means that ROTS is definitely the worst for me. It’s not even watchable. I honestly can’t say anything positive about the movie, except for John Williams’s score is brilliant as always. It LOOKS like a computer game, the story makes no sense, the acting is horrible, the actors stopped caring a long time ago, the dialogue is like it was written by a 8 years old… Well at least it’s funny if you’re drunk enough.

SilverWook said:

I totally did not know Adam Nimoy is married to Terry Farrell. That puts Dax swooning over Spock in Trials and Tribbleations in a weird new light. 😉

I had no clue, that’s actually impressive. By the way, a few days ago I was watching a documentary about the FX legends - Skotak brothers. To my surprise I found out that Dennis Skotak is married to D.C. Fontana

Ethan Peck is the new Spock for Discovery season 2.

The main problem with First Contact for me are the Borg. Why is there suddenly a Borg Queen? That completely changes the character of the whole race. Why are they suddenly space zombies? Why do they fight their way to Earth through the whole fleet, and THEN travel back in time? Couldn’t they first jump to the past somewhere in the delta quadrant and then fly safely to Earth? Also why did they travel to the first contact time and not to let’s say ancient times? Why are they trying to assimilate mankind? Didn’t they use to assimilate races to get technological advances? What can they get by assimilating a bunch of savages which barely survived a world war?

Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE the movie, but the plot makes no sense. And I don’t even start about Jean-Luc “The line must be drawn here” Picard.

Warbler said:

pittrek said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

They can safely ignore Voyager. And Q flat out told Picard in the finale that the trial never ends.

There is one other problem with bringing Q back. John de Lancie has aged much since his last appearance in Voyager(did he make one in Enterprise). I will be obvious that he is much older. Qs are supposed to be omnipotent. I find it hard to believe they age.

That could be explained easily - he could WANT to look older to match Picard’s age or anything like that.

Possible, I suppose.

I have to say I have a bad feeling about bringing back Picard.

I have a bad feeling about Star Trek in general anymore. Once they started with the Kelvin timeline, they never should have returned to the original. The whole point of creating the Kelvin timeline was to start over and to leave the original universe to rest in peace. But now they have gone back to it. It is bound to confuse fans just getting into Trek. I think the continuity is so messed up and confused, I don’t think it can be fixed. I think I am done with it. Sorry.

Don’t be afraid, if the rumours are correct, the new Picard show will once and forever destroy the original timeline.

What do you mean by that?

There are many youtube videos covering that rumour, here is one of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLl17YXrAZY

Warbler said:

pittrek said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I liked Insurrection…

Me too. It feels like a long TNG episode, which for many people is a problem, and it contradicts an episode of TNG, but compared to Nemesis it’s a masterpiece.

Which episode did Insurrection contradict?

I don’t remember the English titles of the episodes, but there was the last episode with Wesley, I think season 7 - the situation was similar - the Federation has decided to forcefully remove a colony of American Indians because somebody else wanted it. Picard’s attitude was “I don’t like it, but it’s an order”. In Insurrection the situation is very similar, but now for some reason Picard decides to do a small insurrection to defend them.

ChainsawAsh said:

I liked Insurrection…

Me too. It feels like a long TNG episode, which for many people is a problem, and it contradicts an episode of TNG, but compared to Nemesis it’s a masterpiece.

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

They can safely ignore Voyager. And Q flat out told Picard in the finale that the trial never ends.

There is one other problem with bringing Q back. John de Lancie has aged much since his last appearance in Voyager(did he make one in Enterprise). I will be obvious that he is much older. Qs are supposed to be omnipotent. I find it hard to believe they age.

That could be explained easily - he could WANT to look older to match Picard’s age or anything like that.

I have to say I have a bad feeling about bringing back Picard.

I have a bad feeling about Star Trek in general anymore. Once they started with the Kelvin timeline, they never should have returned to the original. The whole point of creating the Kelvin timeline was to start over and to leave the original universe to rest in peace. But now they have gone back to it. It is bound to confuse fans just getting into Trek. I think the continuity is so messed up and confused, I don’t think it can be fixed. I think I am done with it. Sorry.

Don’t be afraid, if the rumours are correct, the new Picard show will once and forever destroy the original timeline.

Hopefully the rumours about the Picard series are 100% wrong, because if they will do it, Star Trek is finally dead. And it looks like the 2 Chrises (Pine and Hemsworth) are OUT of the Kelvin timeline movies? I didn’t expect that tbh.

Funny that 5 years ago I would be excited. Now I just expect they will f it up and ruin his character. Especially when it’s done by the same people who are behind Discovery.

😦

I tried to find the interview on youtube, I can’t. But basically the reporter asked if there is a chance that they’ll release the original versions one day, Iger laughed and said something like “I like the way how you think” or “We’re thinking in a similar way” or something like that, hard to say, it’s been years. But the impression I got from him was that he’s trying to say “we’ll eventually get to it, just wait”

Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

OK, I did a quick mp4 encode from my avi version of ROTJ, I am uploading it to mega, you guys expect a PM soon

I created a “kind of extended” version of not the whole movies, but only some of the segments. Almost none of the scenes was however restored, and I honestly don’t know if it’s good enough for a “release”.

tbird97 said:

pittrek said:

If I understood the TOS situation correctly, or in other words if the people in the comment sections under those videos were correct, the Blu-rays are not source from the ORIGINAL negatives, as the promotional material suggests, but from new internegs created in early 80’s for syndication. That’s why they include unified opening credits (originally each of the first 13 episodes had slightly different opening credits) and fixed some of the effects scenes, like the planet shots in The Naked Time.

This is funny. I’ve seen many Star Trek posts get hijacked and go into a discussion of Star Wars, but rarely the other way around!

I was curious about the Star Trek original series as well. I did some digging and found that there are some audio on the blu-ray set which is not entirely. I was kind of surprised some enterprising (no pun intended) fan had not taken the audio from the laserdiscs and set it to the blu-ray picture or something.
I don’t know exact episodes, but I know some of the opening credits there is dispute about which music played. There is a found effect of a phaser rifle being thrown in “Where No Man Has Gone Before” and one of Spock’s lines in “The Trouble with Tribbles.” There may be others as well, maybe some musical cues were messed with and they added some ship engine noise for the DVD release. Anywhere, I have the set and enjoy it, but there are purists who would love to have the original “night of broadcast” audio and that doesn’t truly seem what was provided. I will end my Trek discussion on this Star Wars thread so as not to run afoul of the moderators. Feel free to PM me to continue the discussion if you feel the urge.

Not sure if I understood correctly what you are suggesting, but I sent you a PM. And correct, let’s keep this thread for Harmy’s magnificent piece of work.

What we have been told from different sources

• Bob Iger said to the reporter that they’re thinking the same way or something like that (I can’t find that interview) when she asked him about a possible OOT release
• Disney is starting a streaming service and needs content
• they are scanning absolutely EVERYTHING they have in the Disney archives and the archives of their subsidiaries, including Lucasfilm, and not just released stuff but also things like behind the scenes footage, interviews or deleted scenes

So, IMHO, it’s not an “if” question, but a “when” question.

Wow, I completely forgot about this thread. I fixed the incorrect links to 2 of the pictures in my original post

chyron8472 said:

pittrek said:

I feel ashamed I love it more than the Discovery trailer.

Why should you be ashamed? The Orville is a better show.

Because I honestly was prepared to hate The Orville (I hate Family Guy after season 2/3), and love Discovery, I had a strange feeling when I soon started to feel the other way around

Handman said:

Eh, I don’t know. The only way to truly be creative and tell new stories is to stop listening to the fans and go your own way.

But why call it Star Trek then, if you change so many things that it doesn’t ‘feel’ as Star Trek anymore? The only thing I can come up with is brand recognition and that’s not a good reason.

The only problem is the people in charge of this show didn’t have a clear vision, and it felt like a desperate attempt to be “edgy and cool”, at the expense of the source material.

Well the only person who actually had a vision was fired for being too slow. And nobody of the new producing team (with the exception of Meyer, who was only a consultant and later left completely) has ever done anything similar to Star Trek before, and you can clearly see it.

When that failed, of course they would look at the other show and try to ape its success. This show is a joke.

Did it fail? I mean it failed with many of the old fans, but did CBS All Access and / or Netflix publish any numbers?

Full disclosure: I have not watched a single episode of either show, lmao. And from everything I’ve seen, that doesn’t look to be changing soon.

“The other show” is great, the only thing I hate about it is the humour. Which is strange since it’s supposed to be a comedy show.

I feel ashamed I love it more than the Discovery trailer.

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Sorry about that.

I’m not going to pretend that I understand why CBS regionally blocks all of their content outside of the USA, including shows they’re selling worldwide, but assuming that the trailer is identical or at least similar to the Netflix version, which I am allowed to watch, I don’t understand it - will Pike be the commander of both the Enterprise AND the Discovery? But at least it looks like they are planning to do some Star Trek things, like explorations. One thing I noticed is the final scene (or at least it’s final in the Netflix version) - the scene in the elevator - it really reminds me on The Orville. Not sure if it’s a good thing or a bad thing.

Did anybody of you watch Cloak and Dagger? If yes, is it a part of the MCU or something completely different?

Jay said:

Politics and outrage culture will ruin entertainment.

Will? Isn’t it already happening?

Deadpool is a billion dollar franchise. I wouldn’t be afraid anything bad is going to happen to it.