hiphats

I do have software that can shrink it down to single layer, so that is under consideration with me.

Mitch said:

This will be a tough task but I will search my sources ;-)

Thanks, finally, for someone for getting some kind of start to this project.  I urge all of you with some kind of acceptable quality copy of the full network version of "Journey" from either ABC or SFM to come forward.

The problem is, I live in S.D. ...at least for the time being, which is why I'm trying to turn to others to track down a high quality copy of the TV version.  Just thought you'd like to know.

Mitch said:

hiphats said: 

 

Will your new version also be in stereo (for the most part)?

 

We are discussing whether to have it in Stereo. The whole point of the project is to recreate the KCOP viewing of the film. (which would be in mono)  

 

 

With the right software, it is technically possible to create an alternate track with the stereo, or at least a mono/stereo hybrid.  My last attempt at recreating the RKC/SIC had both mono (for the TV scenes) and stereo (for the theatrically released scenes), which is what my intention was anyway.

Mitch said:

This would be an interesting project  I never even knew a TV cut existed, lol I tought I was the GURU on Tv cuts....

 

I like this project idea. To be honest I have never knew anyone to have this.

?Just how much footge is missing? What scenes are not on the disc? Please details?

From IMDB.om

 

There was no Wizard in the theatrical release...but in the network TV version there was! He was played in live-action sequences by Bill Cosby, and the sub-plot was to get the children back to Kansas to join Dorothy for Christmas. The TV version runs 96 minutes.

The supplementary section of the current DVD has the Bill Cosby interstitials from the first half of the network version, the very last segment being the scene where the Wizard and the Munchkin children secretly begin their plan to help Dorothy.  The segments last around six minutes.  Incidentally, some of the segments end with a few seconds of the animation that is joined in progress in the TV cut.

To my recollection, here's some of the Cosby segments that I saw in the TV version that are missing from the DVD...the Wizard handing Pumpkinhead a book, the Wizard and the children crying over Pumpkinhead's "death", the superimposing of the live action segments over the final animation scene, and Cosby wishing the viewers a Merry Christmas.

Again, I'm going from memory here since the VHS I have of the TV cut is back in Northern California (I'm in SoCal right now), and I recorded this on Extended Play pre-hi-fi, so the sound isn't really up to speed with today's DVD technology (to you it would sound like AM radio).  And I personally chopped it up a bit to try and fit another movie (again, this was EP).  But most of the "missing" Cosby segments are on my VHS, and obviously I cannot just fly up to get it.

All the animation in the TV cut is intact in the theatrical version included on the DVD.  The other major change is the theatrical version opens with the opening Kansas segment up until Dorothy is knocked unconcious, then segues into the main titles.  The TV version starts off with the first Cosby segment (with the Wizard discovering Kansas--this serves as its prologue) before the main titles, then the second Cosby segment (where the children are introduced), followed by the film where it would have started theatrically.

Note in passing: the last known airing of the TV version was in 1983 on the old SFM Holiday Network on syndication.

Hope this helps

Here it is, many months after my original post, and no one has either responded or cares about this project (well, just about every other post I've made to this forum does not get a response anyway).  Now I have an even more reason to revive it...I just rented the DVD of the BCI "special edition", and I quickly went to the supplements that has the Bill Cosby segments.  Sadly, not all of the Cosby segments are represented on this disc, which leads me to believe that most of the broadcast master is lost.  If there is anyone here that has a good-quality copy of the TV version (even from its syndicated showings on the SFM Holiday Network), please come forward.  This is a project I would love to get underway very soon.

This version of DUNE would be very interesting for me to see.  As with "Superman", I too attempted a personal project of the extended cut.  For those of you not familiar with my work...this was a version that used all the legitimate footage that existed at the time of the extended cut's issue (including the violence of the theatrical cut), but eliminating as much as possible the repeated footage that caused David Lynch to take his name off the credits, as well as restoring Lynch's name in the main and end credits.  I did leave in the painted prologue of the TV version and the theatrical prologue in a way that each part of the film is its own movie, with Part I being narrated by the male narrator and Part II narrated by Princess Irulan (one scene from Part Two of the TV version had narration from the male narrator that had to be left there for continuity purposes).

I did see FanFiltration's earlier attempt at his extended version (with the blue-within-blue-eyes effect restored to the TV scenes), but as I can imagine will be nothing like the "Third Stage" version.

I too am interested in this version.  I still have my hybrid version of DUNE on hand if anyone is interested somewhere down the road if the "Third Stage" version is ever completed.

Good luck, guys.

I too am interested in seeing your results.  You might know some years back I did a similar project using the versions I had in hand.  Long story short...whatever theatrical or TV versions I used I utilized in a way where the theatrically released footage was in letterbox, the TV footage in full screen,  and in many cases, in stereo (many of the TV footage scenes where music was restored I remixed in stereo).

Will your new version also be in stereo (for the most part)?

Again, I'd like to see your new version when it's done.

If you are an animation or Bill Cosby fan, this may interest you. As you know, the 1964/1972 animated Filmation feature “Journey Back To Oz” has been released on DVD, but only the original theatrical version is represented. There was a network television version with live-action interstitials by Bill Cosby that aired beginning in 1976 on ABC, and repeated in subsequent years on the old SFM Holiday Network. The interstitials are on the new DVD, but as a separate feature.

Has anyone attempted to do a fan-made restoration of the network TV version using a good-quality VHS copy as a reference? Is this possible? This thread is open to suggestion.

Someone out there has a DVD of the original pressing of “Little Shop Of Horrors” with the original ending. I am surprised NO ONE with it has ever done a dub of this one.

I did have a copy, but because I was financially scrapped I had to sell it back, but not before I did a VCD dub of the original ending. Has anyone considered a fan-made preservation of LSOH?

I know we’re only about three weeks away from the holiday season, so I guess we can start talking about Christmas programs, that is, those programs you don’t see anymore on television, and even those that haven’t been released on DVD.

I have some of these programs both on DVD-R and floating somewhere amongsted my remaining VHS collection (this will be edited as I find some).

I have “A Carnegie Hall Christmas Concert”, that wonderful PBS special aired in 1992 and again the following year…has not been seen since, and was released on LaserDisc but never on DVD. Frederica von Stade has a wonderful soprano voice, and her performance is the most uplifting of all. Rivals any animated special. I also have the “I Love Lucy Christmas Special” (I don’t think that’s on DVD yet, but considering that the series is now on DVD, if you do know otherwise, let me know).

Also, can anyone think of any Rankin-Bass special that isn’t yet on DVD? Or do any of you have rare Rankin-Bass materials (promos, sponsor spots, etc.) that you may have won on eBay through Rick Goldsmidt?

Or even the “Yule Log”?

There is one Rankin-Bass special I have to mention…“Jack Frost”. I have a dub on VHS from a Family Channel airing (I think it’s edited). There are now several companies putting this out on video/DVD. I think the reason is that it is now in the public domain (Warner Bros. apparently not renewing the copyright). Can anyone explain why?

If anyone can think of rare Christmas material not yet on DVD, I’m welcome to replies on this thread.