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#331455
Topic
Johnny Mnemonic Japan Cut <JM> Extended (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/331455/action/topic#331455
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Interview with William Gibson from suicidegirls.com

DRE:
What happened with Johnny Mnemonic? I blame Dolph Lundgren.

WG:
Oh no [laughs]. I would blame Sony Pictures Imageworks. Nobody got to see the film that Robert Longo shot. Longo shot the script I wrote which I was happy with. The tragedy with Johnny Mnemonic is that we shot an ironic broadly comic action film that at some level was supposed to be about bad science fiction movies. We were not trying to make a blockbuster mainstream adventure film starring Keanu Reeves. When we started shooting that film Keanu wasn’t a movie star. Speed came out while we were shooting. As soon as it was a hit we had guys from the studio coming out of the woodwork telling us that we shouldn’t shoot a funny movie, where’s the bus? It just got worse from there. We kept doing what we wanted to do. Keanu and Dolph were both doing exactly what we told them to do. Sony cut 90 % of Dolph’s role because they said it would offend the religious right. He doesn’t even have a character in the movie they put out. He’s just this insane caveman who comes rushing in and flinging people around. It doesn’t make any sense. In the film we shot you get his backstory where he is preaching stark naked to churches full of women whoa re afflicted with the weird disease in the movie. He completely got into doing this comic villain and it just ended up making him look like an idiot. I personally felt very bad about that because he was doing what he was told to do.

From Gibson's blog
Alas, that's the tragedy of JM as released: it was *full* them, as written and shot, but Sony surgically excised every one they could. They'd have probably cut the Room Service speech if it had been possible.

Ever notice how little sense Dolph Lundgren's Street Preacher character makes? Just this big lunatic who periodically rages onstage and tosses people around?

I'll tell you something you may not believe: Dolph Lungren can actually do *comedy*. I mean, like, who knew? But he can, and did, with great gusto. The nature of his character was anchored in a scene in his church (he's the local Panawave-equivalent) in which he preaches, buck nekkid and skin-studded with creepy nano-gizmos, to a congragation of adoring female NAS victims. He delivers a bombastic, faux-Sterlingesque, literally balls-out *sermon* on the virtues of posthumanity. It came off sort of like Fabio as the Jesus you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley. It *rocked*. Hilarious. So Sony cut it.

They cut it out of fear of offending the religious right. No kidding. They actually told me that. That's the sort of thing I mean when I say the JM you see is not the movie we shot.

[JM as I wrote it, and Longo shot it, is only available as the published screenplay (but quite readily available as that). I only agreed to publish it, in the first place, because I wanted to be in the position to demonstrate the difference between what I wrote, and we shot, and what they released. I doubt there's even a remote possibility of there ever being a restored "director's cut", although the Japanese version of the DVD is a little closer to our intention.

 

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#331183
Topic
Batman Forever - Dark Knight Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/331183/action/topic#331183
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Sure, but the biggest problem with this an other edits is it trys to make the film Burton's batman 3.

Which the film isn't and never will/can be. Only two things can be done to help this film IMO. One

is an extended edition, adding in the delted scenes and keeping the tone of schmachers film. Or two, some clever editing of music and camp to help the film "flow" alittle better as a 3rd film in the series. Which from my understanding is what BTDKE tried to do.

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#331058
Topic
Batman Forever - Dark Knight Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/331058/action/topic#331058
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The mystery about the ebay disc is solved, and just be glad you didn't buy it.

Posting on it here.

http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=338.0

And here is the movie.

http://demeterpictures.com/batman.html

 

Overall decent idea, but he should have spent more time on it. And the edits to the peice are jarring.

Not to mention the soundtrack being cut up. I have sent this to DR and he said this is definantly NOT the dark knight edition.

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#329601
Topic
James Bond 007 WARHEAD (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/329601/action/topic#329601
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Interesting, BB could be be more specific on what part of Goldeneye shows that Bond has been out of a job since LTK? I've seen the film several times and didn't ever catch that

The original plan was for Warhead to be set in 1993.

As for using Detonator 2 at all, I doubt it. Brosnan does not even remotely resemble bond in that film, Mostly due to the long hair and stash.

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#328558
Topic
Batman Forever - Dark Knight Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/328558/action/topic#328558
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I PMed Drake Retro on that message board about this edit. Here is what he had to say.

Hmmm, Interesting that another edit has popped up online. I did notice this on ebay, (because I still do keep an eye on fan edit sites from time to time) and while it looks interesting. It's not the dark knight edit. Well not the one I saw at least. Here is why. (I will rundown the info you gave me.

 

-30 minutes removed

The first thing that caught my eye. The DKE didn't have this much footage removed. Infact it didn't have much removed at all. Scenes were trimmed not removed. I can't think of one "whole" deleted segment at all.


-New scenes (Bruce in the Cave with the Giant Bat, Bruce thinking about quitting, Bruce talking to Dick in the Weight room) etc...

I don't remember every detail, since it has been awhile since I have seen this BUT The Bruce in the weight room scene was NOT added back into the DKE that I saw. It seems like I would remember that.

-Danny Elfmans score is back in the movie! His classic dark theme for Batman has returned!

Yes it was, Goldenthal's score was also still in the film. As I said before, the less campier tracks were left intact.

-The Vegas like Gotham is gone!

Where did it go? Maybe the city shots are gone and that's where the 30 or so mins went. TDKE still has gotham as is.

except for some color tweeks..

-Added some filters on the video to removed pink and red colors and replaced with a dark bluish tint

TDKE desaturated the color a tad, and then put a slight blue filter ontop of that. This discribtion and the screencaps

you provided show something alot more drastic than that.


-Lots of the corny dialogue from Riddler and Two Face is removed

TDKE does remove some of this.


-New Opening (Two face escapes arkham)

TDKE has this aswell


-New Credits, matching Batman (1989 and Batman Returns)

Matching? Not really, that would require new footage. In the same vein, TDKE uses the credits over blue fog/Smoke/Clouds. Similer to the title seq in The Crow City of Angels.


-New Ending: A view of Gotham City with Batman at the top of a building, ala the previous two batman films.

Really? Where did this footage come from? Dropping Batman 89's ending in there? That wouldn't work at all.

TDKE uses a shot of the Batsignal egniting the sky as the last shot.

 

So if the question is, Is this the same fanedit you saw?

Then the answer is no. Although it sounds interesting the descriptions sound like the editor took the project a little to far. You still have to work within the film you have. Batman Forever will never be a Tim Burton film, but it can be a better 3rd and final entry into the original film series. Coincidently, I've recently come upon someone who is helping me in my search. I will keep you posted. I am hesitant however to post anymore info on a forum, because I don't want to get people's hopes up. I learned my lesson last time.