dclarkg

RicOlie_2 said:

"Point me out" isn't a biggy, since native English speakers sometimes word it like that. It isn't technically correct, however, because "point me out" means that you want me to point you out to someone (the following "any errors in my grammar" clarifies your meaning, so you could get away with using it).

Now I'd better slow down before this discussion turns into the official OT.com "Consult a Grammar Nazi" thread. ;)

 Got it haha

Nice interview, I read it instead of listening it. The guy asked pretty good questions.

RicOlie_2 said:

dclarkg said:

RicOlie_2 said:

dclarkg said: Is not literally a marathon, it will be a 3 night split, 2 per night.

 I wouldn't nitpick your grammar if "literally" wasn't such an abused word, but a literal marathon would be a long distance run of however long it is. You could use "really" or "actually" instead (e.g. "It won't actually be a marathon") since those words aren't as strong as "literally," and can allow for a figurative meaning (now I'm going to have people nitpicking over the definitions of "really" and "actually" :P).

Carry on....

 As you can see, I said is NOT literally a marathon :p

Alright, you got me there. :P

RicOlie_2 said:

Alright, maybe he doesn't want it, but I know what it's like to be a second language speaker, and I would want people to correct me, especially on things I wouldn't be able to figure out without being told. I don't plan on picking apart his grammar at every opportunity unless he asks for it, though. And apologies to him if he didn't want it. :P

 Hey, not a problem, I appreciate it. Feel free to point me out to me any errors in my grammar; I'm sure I make mistakes all the time without realizing it so any help is welcome. At least in this case I knew it wasn't literally a marathon but I was trying to use the broad meaning of the word. ;)

 I'm glad that I didn't come of as an annoying know-it-all. (Also, minor punctuation errors, a typo, and one other small mistake corrected for you ;P.)

 I understand that some people may take it the wrong way but no problem here :)

I wasn't sure about the use of ''me'' on that sentence, in ''least'' it was a typo, I have a mild degree of dyslexia so I tend to omit letters. Thx again :)

DuracellEnergizer said:

The SE should definately be cannonized.

 Epicness

Darth Id said: The only people who try to foist a "canon" interpretation are obsessive, completest fanboys who, much like students of theology, will always have an enormous, incoherent, internally contradictory morass of bullshit to engage, in a vain and goofy quixotic mission to make meaningful that which is meaningless.

 That is the most bizarre comparison I've seen about the topic haha

DuracellEnergizer said:

You atheists never stop talking about God.

 I do stop if is not related to the subject :p

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I don't think there is ''A canon'' but points of view. ''MY canon'' is Harmy's DEED or GOUT

RicOlie_2 said:

dclarkg said: Is not literally a marathon, it will be a 3 night split, 2 per night.

 I wouldn't nitpick your grammar if "literally" wasn't such an abused word, but a literal marathon would be a long distance run of however long it is. You could use "really" or "actually" instead (e.g. "It won't actually be a marathon") since those words aren't as strong as "literally," and can allow for a figurative meaning (now I'm going to have people nitpicking over the definitions of "really" and "actually" :P).

Carry on....

 As you can see, I said is NOT literally a marathon :p

TV's Frink said:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marathon

 Yeah I was going for the 2nd one, If we get technical the original source of the word is a place where the battle of Marathon took place and not an actual race :P

RicOlie_2 said:

Nope. A literal marathon is the race. The other definitions of marathon (other than the place, obviously) are figurative derivatives of the literal meaning.

I thought that we had already established that isn't literally a ''marathon'' when we included 6 movies in the same sentence. :P

Handman said:

 This guy's first language isn't even English, so I think you can give him a break in this regard.

My first language is Spanish, the funny part is that both my father and grandfather are from USA

RicOlie_2 said:

Alright, maybe he doesn't want it, but I know what it's like to be a second language speaker, and I would want people to correct me, especially on things I wouldn't be able to figure out without being told. I don't plan on picking apart his grammar at every opportunity unless he asks for it, though. And apologies to him if he didn't want it. :P

 Hey not a problem, I appreciate it. Feel free to point me out any errors in my grammar, I'm sure I make mistakes all the time without realizing it so any help is welcome. At lest in this case I knew it wasn't literally a marathon but I was trying to use the broad meaning of the word ;)

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

For someone who has never seen SW (or for someone who has, for that matter), I can't imagine a 6-movie marathon.  That would be exhauting to the point of torture.  I remember back in about 1985 when a local theater did the 3 movie marathon (4,5,6), and that alone is 9 hours and by partway through the 3rd movie I was mentally done and so was just about everyone else in the theater.  You're talking 18 straight hours which is borderline unhealthy.

If you mean a 2 or 3 night "marathon", I still think 456123 is the most logical sequence, because it is the order they came out in theaters.  No reveals are spoiled, and the progression of movie-making techniques and styles would be less jarring.

 Is not literally a marathon, it will be a 3 night split, 2 per night.

Beatleboy99 said:

I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but watching Sith before Jedi does spoil the reveal that Luke and Leia are siblings

 Good point.

TV's Frink said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

For someone who has never seen SW (or for someone who has, for that matter), I can't imagine a 6-movie marathon.

 That's because we're old, you and I. ;-)

 I don't know how old are you guy bout count me in, I'm definitely not a kid anymore. ;)

RicOlie_2 said:

Good point. Jabba the Hutt's reveal being spoiled has also been mentioned. I agree that for a first time viewer, the best order is the release order--no question about it.

 It's decided, I'll use the 4,5,6,1,2,3 order with her, I'll show her the DEED for 4,5,6 and the regular BR for 1,2,3

twister111 said:

Reading over this thread makes me think of another order:
1. Star Wars
2. Ep 1
3. Ep 2
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Ep 3
6. Return of the Jedi

I don't know why but I just thought of that order... What do you think?

 Hmm, it's interesting because I would never thought about that order but I don't see a clear continuity on the story arc, it would feel very random I guess

darth_ender said:

dclarkg said:

I understand that your religion has claims that their own members indeed believe but I'm referring about the arguments to sustain a set of claims as true, I suppose that there must be some arguments that justifies those claims against other theist claims.

 If I understand you correctly we rely on personal revelation from God and believe all are entitled to this, which is our primary justification to our claim.

I see, may I ask which revelation?

Neglify said:

My favorite comedians:

George Carlin. Probably my favorite special of his was his last, "It's Bad For Ya." 
"Bullshit is the glue that holds this nation together..."

Louis CK. Anything he does is brilliant.
"Schindler's List"

Mitch Hedberg. He's mainly a 1-to-3 sentence joke kinda guy, and YouTube clips won't impress you much, but here's some of the ones I love the most:

- I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later.

- I had a stick of CareFree gum, but it didn't work. I felt pretty good while I was blowing that bubble, but as soon as the gum lost its flavor, I was back to pondering my mortality.

- Every book is a children's book if the kid can read.

- I bought a $7 pen because I always lose pens and I got sick of not caring.

- I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.

Patton Oswalt. His George Lucas bit is legendary.

And Bill Hicks, Robin Williams and Richard Pryor were all icons.

 The one of Louis C.K is pretty good, is the first time I listen to that one. The one from Carling is a classic like pretty much everything ha did, a master.

Also I've never hear the one from Patton, very accurate haha.

TV's Frink said:

Larry David's stand-up is legendary.

+1, you can't expect less from the other half of Seinfeld's magic

Another good one.
Gabriel Iglesias - Racist Gift Basket
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbppTv4pCGQ

AntcuFaalb said:

dclarkg said:

Yeah, I guess there is no real order to watch them without spoil something

Yes, there is: 4,5,6 done

 Well yes, but I'm including all 6 movies in the debate, otherwise they wouldn't be any debate at all :p

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

4,5,6,1,2,3 - it's the order the movies came out in the theater, so by definition it won't spoil any surprises.  It's why they call them "prequels".

Good point!

My girlfriend has never seen any SW movie and she wants to see them, we are having a marathon this weekend and I was planning on using the 4,5,1,2,3,6 order and see how it goes, any recommendations for a persons that has never seen the movies?

It sounds like a new video game but is not bad, I need to get used to it I guess

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Except that there are reveals in Jedi too.  Jabba is one... you hear about him in SW and ESB, as this rough gangster.  You don't expect him to actually be a giant slug (unless of course you made the mistake of watching the SE or the blu-ray of SW).  Another reveal is the emperor's force lightning.  You know he's this evil scary looking dude, but you're never sure exactly why.  Then when he starts zapping Luke with those lightning bolts you think "whoa, that's intense".  If you already saw the prequels, you'd be thinking, ok, he's going to force-lightning him now, yeah there it is.

 Yeah, I guess there is no real order to watch them without spoil something but the 4,5,1,2,3,6 seems the best one to retain some structure in the story arc while keeping some surprises.

Verboten said:

http://makingstarwars.net/2014/11/star-wars-episode-vii-state-luke-skywalker/

I'll be happy with that, if true.

Not bad on paper but all depends on how they develop the story, the acting, direction, etc...

fullmetal777 said:

Just downloaded the whole trilogy...Harmy you are God! Jesus can't compete with you! This Christmas we're celebrating your birth. Thanks so much man

 Hahaha ''Harmyvus for the rest of us''

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

"Star Wars" is such a true classic, it's ranked by the AFI as the 13th best motion picture of all time.  Watching the prequels first is like watching Casablanca, but first watching a parody of the movie that  gives away everything that is going to happen in the original, sapping a lot of the drama from it.  It's the same reason that people who record a football game don't want to know the final score before they go home to watch it.

It's pretty irrelevent when and if you see the prequels - as long as you don't see them before Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back.

 Got it Puggo, In that case the best order would be 4,5,1,2,3,6 :)

DuracellEnergizer said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlpYLIiZLE

 A true classic haha

This one is a true comedy gem with a lot of true on it :)

Dave Allen's thoughts about Adam and Eve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGASvVqzOa0

chyron8472 said:

dclarkg said:

I got Harmy's edition yesterday and spent several hours switching between Harmy's and the official BR comparing several changes shown on the g+ [...] I don't know much of this things but it looks very polish

I thought Harmy was czech.

Polished? Pardon my ''English''

Feallan said:

Eh it's the same.

 Burn!!!

DuracellEnergizer said:

dclarkg said:

Actually I started with the regular 1 to 6 order

...

I will try the 4,5,1,2,3,6 in the future but using the official BR release with all the modifications.

"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 

 Hahaha good one.

deepanddark20 said:

Do not ever watch the Blu Ray version of Return of the Jedi. Please for the love of all that is sacred.

 I know what I'm saying is crazy but since I never really saw (at least don't remember) the OOT until I got the Harmy's release a few days ago I want to watch the  BR editions and see the differences over the entire films. But don't worry since now that I have the real mccoy I won't be watching the official BR in a long long time after I finish this ''project'' haha.

deepanddark20 said:

There is a part in ROTS, right after Padme lands her ship on Mustafar, when the movie stops for a few seconds to hang on a shot of her resting her head on her hand, gazing out the window lost in contemplation of what she's about to face, and starting to cry, while a somber rendition of Anakin and Padme's love theme plays in the soundtrack. For a fleeting moment, I'm transported to a different dimension where the rest of the prequel trilogy around that scene disappears and is replaced with what it should have been.

The problem is that the prequels fall so short of their potential that, paradoxically, the good things about them just serve to make them even harder to stomach.

I agree, there are good moments in the PT that get me wonder on why they didn't want to put a little bit more effort on the movies, those moment show they were able to do it.

Erik Pancakes said:

Check out the sources doc for some insight into how Harmy did - it's pretty intensive stuff!

 Already watched it, but thx for the info :)

Klasodeth said:

CatBus said:

Don't ask for projected release dates. The answer you get (March 14th, 2015 at 9:32:03 AM GMT) will be wrong, off by months or more.

If you want to watch it anytime soon, download 1.0 now. If you want better quality, you'll need to wait with the rest of us.

 In all fairness, he didn't ask for a projected release date--only a reasonable estimate of whether it is expected to be released "soon" versus "not soon" in order to make a decision related to ROTJ v1.0. Harmy may not ever be in a position to provide accurate release projections well in advance, but I don't think an impending release of his work has ever caught everyone by surprise.

I do agree that pestering for release dates is pointless, as even professionals in creative fields are notorious for providing wildly inaccurate estimates. I just think dclarkg's request isn't an example of this.

dclarkg said:

Handman said:

 As for your first question, ROTJ is on version 1.0. Harmy is currently working on a 2.0, and this will be more comparable to his SW (v.2.5) and ESB (v.2.0) releases. This new version will be available on MKV, and I would recommend holding off on burning ROTJ until then.

 That makes sense :p

Has Harmy said when v2.0 is coming out? If it is arounf the corner I'll wait for V2.0 but if it's going to take a while I don't mind burning v1.0 and then v2.0 when it comes out. Thx for the response

 Last I recall, Harmy was still waiting for 35mm footage to incorporate into v2.0. With that in mind, it will definitely be a while. CatBus' recommendation to download v1.0 is indeed your best bet for now.

 Already download it, thx. :)

Harmy said:

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't say that ROTJ would be done soon - it could be a month, it could be a year but it definitely won't be like next week or something.

Thx for the clarification.

I don't mind waiting 5 years if I have to, I know that the wait will be worthwhile.

Mavimao said:

But it'll cost you. 10 thousand all in advance. 

Memorex said:

10.000?? We could almost buy our own 35mm for that!

CatBus said:

But who's gonna scan it, kid? You?

Memorex said:

U bet I could, I'm not such a bad scanner myself..

  You guys made my day haha

CatBus said:

Actually not all Blu-ray players play AVCHD on DVD9.  Sony's, Panasonics, and Oppos do by and large, others are more hit and miss depending on the model (e.g. Samsung).  If the DVD9 doesn't work, you'd need a BD-R or a different player.

 I guess I'll be watching them on the computer for a while, after all that is the place where I see all my movies :P

deepanddark20 said:

I'm a strong advocate of not including the prequels in any viewing of the Star Wars movies, so my previous post in this thread didn't take it very seriously, and I apologize. My real serious response to the question of how best to experience all 6 movies as one saga would be this (two part answer):

1. Use the viewing order that places the prequels as a flashback in between episodes 5 and 6. That's definitely the best order that includes the prequels. You can make up your own mind about whether or not to include episode 1, I'm not going to nitpick about that detail, but at the very least watch 4 and 5 first and watch 6 last.

2. Part 2 of my answer involves the specific versions you should use. Since I don't watch the prequels, my favorite versions of choice are Harmy's despecialized, but if you are watching the whole saga including the prequels then those versions are not the versions you should watch. You need to watch versions that have been altered to fit better with the prequels. HOWEVER, and I must be emphatic about this, you should NOT watch the currently canonical release being sold in stores right now (with the possible exception of episode 5). For Return of the Jedi, there's really only one option for you and that's the 1997 special edition version. Anything after that includes the ghost change at the end and Vader saying "noooo" and those are changes that you and everyone else needs to avoid like the plague. For A new hope, there is again just one choice: adywan's revisited (in fact revisited would be your choice for everything if the others existed right now). For Empire Strikes back, you've got more flexibility since compared to the other two movies the changes aren't as much of an issue (even though the changes involving Vader's shuttle at the end are pretty friggin bad).

Enjoy the saga, whichever way you choose to watch it.

Thanks! Actually I started with the regular 1 to 6 order, I finished EP III yesterday and I will continue with Harmy's despecialized versions since I just got them and I'm dying to see them. I will try the 4,5,1,2,3,6 in the future but using the official BR release with all the modifications. I still need to download adywan's editions.

Leonardo said:

thumbs up for anyone who appreciates Louis CK and Patrice O'Neal ! :)
*sigh* Why did Patrice have to go, and not *insert hacky comedian here*?

 Yeah it was a real loss, he last set was on the Charlie Sheen roast  :(

Here it is, a true gem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrUHxeVdbqI

timdiggerm said:

Bill Cosby - Himself

 I watched like 5 minutes and laugh my ass off, I never saw this one before :)

Some more

GEORGE CARLIN - The Ten Commandments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk81tUUhRig

SEINFELD - SILVER MEDAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38B0k00GtZ8

Dave Chappelle - Terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32OX1E59nA8

Jim Breuer - Party in Your Stomach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYyBkFjAjFY

I got Harmy's edition yesterday and spent several hours switching between Harmy's and the official BR comparing several changes shown on the g+ album, I must say that I had almost completely forget how the real deal looked like and enjoyed it a lot. I don't know much of this things but it looks very polish and I assume that removing all that CG on some scenes was harder than I think. Thanks for sharing your work