dahmage

I’m a billion and five quarters.

I just realized that all the days of the week are spelled the same.

Woah.

Eh, too many meetings.

Funnily enough, I had pizza for lunch, no lie.

How was your day?

Crap, I think I deleted the invisible Thread.

Possessed said:

TV’s Frink said:

I AM A HINT

That’s nicer than what we usually call you behind your back.

Lol

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

It seems confusing to me why anyone would have to play a chess game in a private thread.

The same reason chess isn’t on tv.

I think.

Good point I hadn’t considered that. Hahaha

It seems confusing to me why anyone would have to play a chess game in a private thread. But whatever. congratulations on the good game guys!

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

Valheru_84 said:

Collipso said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:
That’s incorrect.
https://youtu.be/sx15aXjcDZg

http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html

I really don’t see how being influenced by a dozen old movies is in any way comparable to blantantly recycling story elements, structure, and visuals from the same movie series.

It’s not, nor was I addressing that issue. I was responding specifically to Collipso saying “Neither Star Wars nor Empire ripped off any movie whatsoever”. In fact, it ripped off several films. For the record; I’m not bothered by that. Not now, not in 1977.

Regarding your claim that TFA recycled elements from the OT; I can’t imagine there is anyone on here who doesn’t see that to be the case. There are all sorts of parallels between the OT and the ST. The differences seem to be more about the level at which people are bothered by them.

I would be fine if that were the case, but I don’t believe it is. Some posters here conflate recycling Star Wars tropes with being influenced by other film makers, and works of fiction, thus arguing in a sense, that the current creators are more or less doing what Lucas did in 1977. Lucas’ Star Wars wasn’t original in their view, because he was obviously influenced by many sources while making the first film, and it’s sequels. The current creators are doing the same thing, theu argue, but they just happened to be influenced by Star Wars movies. My argument is Lucas didn’t invent the ingredients, but he did invent a new and original recipe, and one that has resulted in some very tasty meals, while the current creators deliberately used Lucas’ recipe and added a few twists to disguise the fact that they couldn’t come up with a new recipe. The meal might still be edible, but it’s just so similar to Lucas’ recipe, that I can’t shake the notion, that I’ve tasted far better versions of it in the past.

Brilliant.

+1

-1, net result no impact.

Show me a star wars movie that hasn’t recycled star wars tropes. I don’t know why that is such a turn off.

Every Star Wars movie before the ST has provided plenty of new story threads, and new visuals. The ST is unique in the sense that it (IMO delibirately) recycles complete plot sequences, story structure and visuals. All sequels and prequels made by Lucas contained new stories. They were not loose remakes of the previous films. While for TLJ it’s less obvious than for TFA, there’s no denying TLJ’s story structure echos TESB’s, while it also incorporates entire story sequences from the OT, such as the battle of Hoth, albeit with a twist, and the ROTJ throne room sequence, again with a twist.

the ST has provided plenty of new story threads a new visuals too, or are claiming it didn’t?

Some new story threads yes, but compared to previous entries far too little IMO.

You try to cover way too much with your ‘but with a twist’ argument. Only those who want to agree with you accept that argument.

Not at all. Much of TLJ is based on the premise to rethread OT story threads, but to then “surprise” people with a twist. There are very few original story lines not in some way based on the OT. The most obvious original story line is the Canto Bight sequence, which is widely considered the movie’s weakest part, since it is pointless to the overall plot.

You can’t just dismiss the canto bight sequence as pointless… not sure i need to rethread that discussion though. Back out of this thread again for me…

[post insult link]

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

Valheru_84 said:

Collipso said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:
That’s incorrect.
https://youtu.be/sx15aXjcDZg

http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html

I really don’t see how being influenced by a dozen old movies is in any way comparable to blantantly recycling story elements, structure, and visuals from the same movie series.

It’s not, nor was I addressing that issue. I was responding specifically to Collipso saying “Neither Star Wars nor Empire ripped off any movie whatsoever”. In fact, it ripped off several films. For the record; I’m not bothered by that. Not now, not in 1977.

Regarding your claim that TFA recycled elements from the OT; I can’t imagine there is anyone on here who doesn’t see that to be the case. There are all sorts of parallels between the OT and the ST. The differences seem to be more about the level at which people are bothered by them.

I would be fine if that were the case, but I don’t believe it is. Some posters here conflate recycling Star Wars tropes with being influenced by other film makers, and works of fiction, thus arguing in a sense, that the current creators are more or less doing what Lucas did in 1977. Lucas’ Star Wars wasn’t original in their view, because he was obviously influenced by many sources while making the first film, and it’s sequels. The current creators are doing the same thing, theu argue, but they just happened to be influenced by Star Wars movies. My argument is Lucas didn’t invent the ingredients, but he did invent a new and original recipe, and one that has resulted in some very tasty meals, while the current creators deliberately used Lucas’ recipe and added a few twists to disguise the fact that they couldn’t come up with a new recipe. The meal might still be edible, but it’s just so similar to Lucas’ recipe, that I can’t shake the notion, that I’ve tasted far better versions of it in the past.

Brilliant.

+1

-1, net result no impact.

Show me a star wars movie that hasn’t recycled star wars tropes. I don’t know why that is such a turn off.

Every Star Wars movie before the ST has provided plenty of new story threads, and new visuals. The ST is unique in the sense that it (IMO delibirately) recycles complete plot sequences, story structure and visuals. All sequels and prequels made by Lucas contained new stories. They were not loose remakes of the previous films. While for TLJ it’s less obvious than for TFA, there’s no denying TLJ’s story structure echos TESB’s, while it also incorporates entire story sequences from the OT, such as the battle of Hoth, albeit with a twist, and the ROTJ throne room sequence, again with a twist.

the ST has provided plenty of new story threads a new visuals too, or are claiming it didn’t?

You try to cover way too much with your ‘but with a twist’ argument. Only those who want to agree with you accept that argument.

i wonder how many more times i will see that image popup when i open this thread…

Valheru_84 said:

Collipso said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:
That’s incorrect.
https://youtu.be/sx15aXjcDZg

http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html

I really don’t see how being influenced by a dozen old movies is in any way comparable to blantantly recycling story elements, structure, and visuals from the same movie series.

It’s not, nor was I addressing that issue. I was responding specifically to Collipso saying “Neither Star Wars nor Empire ripped off any movie whatsoever”. In fact, it ripped off several films. For the record; I’m not bothered by that. Not now, not in 1977.

Regarding your claim that TFA recycled elements from the OT; I can’t imagine there is anyone on here who doesn’t see that to be the case. There are all sorts of parallels between the OT and the ST. The differences seem to be more about the level at which people are bothered by them.

I would be fine if that were the case, but I don’t believe it is. Some posters here conflate recycling Star Wars tropes with being influenced by other film makers, and works of fiction, thus arguing in a sense, that the current creators are more or less doing what Lucas did in 1977. Lucas’ Star Wars wasn’t original in their view, because he was obviously influenced by many sources while making the first film, and it’s sequels. The current creators are doing the same thing, theu argue, but they just happened to be influenced by Star Wars movies. My argument is Lucas didn’t invent the ingredients, but he did invent a new and original recipe, and one that has resulted in some very tasty meals, while the current creators deliberately used Lucas’ recipe and added a few twists to disguise the fact that they couldn’t come up with a new recipe. The meal might still be edible, but it’s just so similar to Lucas’ recipe, that I can’t shake the notion, that I’ve tasted far better versions of it in the past.

Brilliant.

+1

-1, net result no impact.

Show me a star wars movie that hasn’t recycled star wars tropes. I don’t know why that is such a turn off.

oojason said:

This really did escalate quickly…

this is why i don’t exercise

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

This forum’s really hit the fan this last week. What the hell is in the water?

Well, without knowing anything about the circumstances, this seems to be the only one of the three that isn’t a direct and ridiculous overreaction to forum drama.

You assume the way in which you would have them react is the correct way to react. If you want them to not react the way they do, calling them ridiculous will likely not be effective.

Must you pick at scabs?

Possessed said:

yhwx said:

Do audio DVDs exist?

They probably do.

They do, and there’s at least two players in the world that can play them.

mine and yours?

Be well coffee, hope you are well, and come back when you are able.

Possessed said:

Give Warbler’s Feet Back

Lol.

Jay said:

If I quote a post, It needs to be good one dammit.

Think before you post.

Yeppers.

Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:

chyron8472 said:

I don’t know what to do in here now that my current age was correctly… predicted.

So, you’re either 32 or 12?

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

JEDIT: just saw oojason’s comment.

Warb’s the only one going off the deep end atm.

No. And not helping.

Kettle, meet Chyron.

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

Trump’s claim that he is, in fact, one-fourth Chinese.

[infinite facepalm]

To be clear, I pulled that out of my ass as an example of a plausible headline in an alternate universe.

This is going on your record

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

Mrebo said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Mrebo said:

I think we should all be pleased we’re talking about gun control (mostly large scale banning of guns) exclusively, while some are)admitting it’s almost certainly not going to happen in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile we ignore the enormous numerous failings that could have been avoided to prevent the deaths here and at other schools. Round of applause!

Okay, why don’t you start? What sort of failings?

They’ve been in the news and I’ve mentioned them previously in the thread. But there were the calls to the FBI, including a post by Cruz that he wanted to be a “professional school shooter.” He was expelled from school because he had bullets in his backpack. The family he lived with knew he was deeply troubled, knew he had guns (but apparently not how many and where). Kids at school were afraid of him. People knew he tortured and killed animals. Numerous police and social service visits to the house with no actions taken. The deputy working at the school that day stayed outside when the shooting was going on.

But if he hadn’t had a gun, we wouldn’t be talking about this right now. We would be talking about Trump’s claim that he is, in fact, one-fourth Chinese.

Wait is that true? I can’t find anything on it.

Everything is true, all the time. Except on Thursday.

imperialscum said:

dahmage said:

What a strange Time to come back

I am not back. I just happened to stumble on the news that Ender is leaving. Despite some disagreements we had with him in the past, I think he was a valuable member of this forum. Too bad.

Ender is a valuable member, not ‘was’.

Of course it is going to take some time to actually reduce the number of guns floating around out there but the solution is to start reducing the number now not increase it.

All those guns that we like to say criminals are going to get their hands on any way usually are stolen from someone who has it.

Less guns means less guns.