dahmage

I think it’s more like a 8/10

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Mrebo said:

Trump will eventually leave office. Trump is trying to solve the illegal immigration issue. Is there a better way? What is it?

hah, really? The better way is what were were doing for the past several years before Sessions announced that they were going to separate families as a ‘deterrent’ (which past experience shows probably isn’t effective). Basically, use discretion and try not to separate families.

Look, laws exist and need to be followed, but there is ALWAYS discretion involved in how we enforce laws. and choosing to be a maximum power asshole about prosecution to the fullest extent of the law (And then throwing up your hands and saying ‘my hands are tied!’) isn’t the way to do anything.

Mrebo said:

dahmage, you say that Obama wasn’t in love with enforcing immigration law but Trump is.

not exactly, i said Obama wasn’t in love with the way he was enforcing immigration law (in this specific instance we are talking about family detention centers). Trump is in love with the way he is enforcing it.

both of them were engaged in bad policy (family detention in this specific instance), as Jay said, but they were NOT both equal because Obama didn’t love it, and Trump does. and Trump is doing it way more.

So yesterday the “man in the oval office” decided he could do something after saying he couldn’t do something. Executive order: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/20/622095441/trump-executive-order-on-family-separation-what-it-does-and-doesnt-do

but despite that i am sure Trump and cronies will laud this as a good thing, and blame any resistance to it as more of what some admins around here call “Democrats’ intellectual dishonesty”, this is a bad thing.

Pennsylvania has had a family detention center for a long time, and it is a TERRIBLE thing. We have been trying to get it closed for years: http://paimmigrant.org/campaign-to-shut-down-berks/

Jay said:

https://twitter.com/ImmCivilRights/status/1008902662828511232

It was bad policy when Obama and the Democrats supported it and it’s bad policy now, but it’s a travesty now because the media tells you it is and there are elections in a few months.

Jay, i can see some differences:

1. as you like to remind us (and pretend you are the only one who realizes), Governing involves hard choices. Presidents can’t make everything ‘good’.
2. It sure seems like Obama wasn’t in love with what he was doing. Trump on the other hand is.

do you see the difference?

Jay said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Seperations are new.

This is incorrect. They’ve increased, but if you look at pics from prior administrations, there are kids being held without their parents present. It’s unlikely we’ll ever have accurate numbers for how many.

It’s bad policy all around regardless.

Dahmaged angry this post

And here we are again with the ‘Trump is just like everybody else’

chyron8472 said:

Jay said:

chyron8472 said:

Jay said:

he’s applying the same rules as previous administrations is disingenuous.

I’m going to have to say “citation needed” on this.

I’m not getting into the back-and-forth article posting that often passes for debate in this thread. You can read up on it if you care to.

So what you’re saying is you prefer to make uncited claims and have the people in the conversation go research your possible sources themselves before they validate what you said.

…How is that better than citing your source when making your argument?
Not sure I could have gotten away with that in school, with a Works Cited page that says “Go look it up yourself.”

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SilverWook said:

I’m uneasy with seeing kids in what looks like a scene out of some apocalyptic tale, (I’m sure Walmart is thrilled one of their former locations is associated with this) and repulsed by people throwing out bible verses as a defense of their policy. No matter who did it before, it’s on Trumpy’s watch now. Guess he finally found an Obama legacy he doesn’t want to undo?

And that Fox news minion who made the summer camp comparison is either delusional or a first class witch, spelled with a b.

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Possessed said:

Every thread we could talk about this stuff in gets locked so I’m reluctant to comment about how she was being a jerk as well as provoking the moderation.

yeah, we should learn and talk about banned users in threads we hate…

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

Both had popcorn but the theater popcorn was better.

Except the part where they gave it to us and expected us to take it home to pop it.

but they did the hard part of removing all the small stones for you!

WHY DON’T WE JUST TURN THIS ENTIRE SITE INTO ONE THREAD: “SOLO, POLITICS, AND MORE”

WHY DON’T WE JUST TURN THIS ENTIRE SITE INTO ONE THREAD: “SOLO, POLITICS, AND MORE”

TV’s Frink said:

Saw 2 yesterday. (Not that I went to see Saw 2 yesterday, but I saw I2 yesterday). I’d say it’s better than 1, although I’d not give 1 a 10/10.

8/10 (I’d probably give 1 a 7/10)

this was extremely confusing to me

maybe use proper sentences next time

like ‘I saw Incredibles 2 yesterday.’

inb4 frink’s grammer complaint: me = ‘touché’

Cnut wasn’t actually that great

NeverarGreat said:

That’s the thing about pictures. Unless they’re moving, they don’t change.
I’ll take the Ric pic now.

Ric pic for 400 please.

Possessed said:

This isn’t the time to discuss dahmage’s posts.

Hey!

Lol

Possessed said:

dahmage said:

Jay said:

Have SJWs really taken over Star Wars, or has a significant portion of the fanbase simply become toxic and unaccepting of new ideas and characters?

ticles

To be fair, that word started with test.

Anakin Starkiller said:

I’m just confused about the Whills suddenly being microbiotic. How do they write a journal in that case?

hah 😃

vexedmedia said:

The home video release appears to have a different pixel ratio as well–a bit wider stretched than the print. However it looks more like blooming from the digital transfer process than a rotoscope difference.

yeah, that is what i thought as well.

Frank your Majesty said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

My favorite sex position is quantum superposition.

Is that the one where you can only know where you are doing it or how fast you are doing it, but not both? That could get really awkward.

ALLOLAINLTT

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

It’s important because on the Solo thread Jason made it impossible to talk about the movie with the perspective of the way it was produced by Kennedy (next step: we won’t talk about the screenwriter or the director of a movie because it’s not relevant ?You know, directors and screenwriter don’t take every single decision on a movie either…). I think it’s good to clear that.

That’s a question for Jason…although I think it’s a very silly question.

Frink, I know you want badly to give your opinion about anytthing going on, but you’re missing the target so much that I won’t waste time replying to you on this matter.

why be so selective about how you choose to waste your time?

Possessed said:

dahmage said:

ALLOL. High marks all around.

I don’t care if she is on drugs I wish she would start posting again

7.5/10