Don’t be a stranger, come back soon Possessed.

Warbler said:

Anyone here got equipment that can dig a 100 mile deep hole?

Yeah, but Trump borrowed it and isn’t done with it yet apparently.

ZkinandBonez said:

I’m curious as to how people would have reacted to the “flying Leia” scene had something similar been done back in the 80’s. I really think this scene has the most polarized reactions in the entirety of TLJ. Some people love it, and others think it’s complete nonsense. Even my first reaction was “is this brilliant or silly?”. Maybe it’s the obvious CG-look of the moment that puts people off?

Or maybe it’s the fact that many anticipated a Leia death scene,

then all of a sudden she “flies” back to safety (it’s pretty jarring the first time). Or maybe GotG vol.2 was still to fresh in people’s memory and all they could think of was Yondu’s Mary Poppins scene.

I personally think it’s a really interesting idea, but I can’t help but find the execution of the scene to be a tad off. It’s the wide-shot of her flying (this shot) that weirds me out a bit. But none of this makes it a “bad” scene in my mind. Plus, it’s a scene that to me gets less weird the more I watch it, though I can’t tell if that’s a good or bad sign.

emphasis mine, i agree with much of your post, but that part stands out, and i think it is impossible for most of us to effectively gauge what our subconscious was doing as we watched this, but i strongly suspect that our collective thought was “ok, this is how she dies”, and then we were all wrong.

This is a tough question.

First, I believe that 77 and 80 would have been the most exciting time, but i wasn’t around, so for me, it can’t be part of my answer.

But i do feel that this current period offers the most hope for quality Star Wars content. I don’t regard everything to have been great so far under disney, and i don’t dispute Dre’s comment about standing on the OT’s shoulders (but isn’t that unavoidable to some degree?), but there have been some quality movies and tv shows in my opinion, and i am excited to see the new ones that are coming.

in the PT era, i was also excited about there being new star wars movies, but there wasn’t much else to look forward to (ep III would be the last one by definition), so this ST period certainly exceeds the PT period for me.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Detective Obi-Wan

Has anyone done a hard-boiled edit of AOTC?

Mrebo said:

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

There is no comparing Obama’s relationship with Russia versus Trump’s. They are in a completely different league. Obama never publicly called on Russia to hack into an opponent’s system.

Neither did Trump, to be accurate. At the time of Trump’s statement the server was wiped but believed to have been hacked before that point.

Accordingly the NYT, at the time, described Trump as saying that “he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen.”

Notice use of the past tense. Also the DNC also had already been hacked at that point.

Trump’s comments were inappropriate and encouraging of bad behavior by foreign adversaries, but it was understood, at the time, that he was asking for release of materials already presumed stolen because of negligence by Clinton.

Now that the context is forgotten, the NYT claims, “Donald J. Trump made a direct appeal to Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails and make them public.”

So now we’ve shifted to a future request for hacking, rather than a request to publish what was already hacked, only because people are ignoring the context.

Obama didn’t have the depth of business ties. And Obama most certainly never openly trusted Putin’s word over his own intel.

If you want hypocrisy, look no further than Fox News’ vitriol when Obama floated the idea of meeting with North Korea.

I don’t care to relitigate all of Obama’s failures with Russia, but the inconsistency of many on both sides is distressing.

I am not sure there is any difference between requesting someone to perform a hack, or to release data from a hack they already performed.

There’s a huge difference.

Those instances are both encouraging illegal Behavior against our country.

There’s also the fact that simply obtaining data from a server and getting access to that data do not always happen at the same time.

Mrebo said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

There is no comparing Obama’s relationship with Russia versus Trump’s. They are in a completely different league. Obama never publicly called on Russia to hack into an opponent’s system.

Neither did Trump, to be accurate. At the time of Trump’s statement the server was wiped but believed to have been hacked before that point.

Accordingly the NYT, at the time, described Trump as saying that “he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen.”

Notice use of the past tense. Also the DNC also had already been hacked at that point.

Trump’s comments were inappropriate and encouraging of bad behavior by foreign adversaries, but it was understood, at the time, that he was asking for release of materials already presumed stolen because of negligence by Clinton.

Now that the context is forgotten, the NYT claims, “Donald J. Trump made a direct appeal to Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails and make them public.”

So now we’ve shifted to a future request for hacking, rather than a request to publish what was already hacked, only because people are ignoring the context.

Obama didn’t have the depth of business ties. And Obama most certainly never openly trusted Putin’s word over his own intel.

If you want hypocrisy, look no further than Fox News’ vitriol when Obama floated the idea of meeting with North Korea.

I don’t care to relitigate all of Obama’s failures with Russia, but the inconsistency of many on both sides is distressing.

I am not sure there is any difference between requesting someone to perform a hack, or to release data from a hack they already performed.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Wait, is there actually a tin toy of the Homer?

There is even a real one somewhere.

paja said:

JEDIT: Wrong Thread

Your new signature.

chyron8472 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Mrebo said:

Much better value, plus it’s not a Mac.

Oxymoron

I think you mean “redundant”.

I think you all meant

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

dahmage said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And most of them are right hands, too.

right?

Makes sense. Most are right handed, and the weapons are most likely going to be in the dominant hand.

I know that my comment was a joke, but I’ll be honest I don’t really understand it or remember what joke I was making.

chyron8472 said:

Mrebo said:

or crèche as we say in America

We do? I don’t say that.

HI AMERICA

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I can’t stop thinking about her. I’m losing sleep, but I can’t do anything about it because she’s out of town for awhile. I guess I’ll just be an insomniac until I can let her know how I feel.

😃

very cool man.

NeverarGreat said:

Does this man’s paradoxical thought lead him to believe that all roadways are simultaneously both black and white, and therefore step off the sidewalk any old where and get run over? Surely not, since the zebra crossing is definitively stated as the location of the man’s demise.

What I’m trying to say here is that the joke doesn’t quite work.

i think it is more that he actually proved black was white (just as he proved God didn’t exist, and therefore God did not exist), his ‘proof’ actually made it so. this is a paradox, and when he encountered this paradox (at a zebra crossing), the paradox destroyed him.

When i first read that book, i was unfamiliar with the term zebra crossing… yeah. still funny, but i was like, why would a zebra run him over?

DominicCobb said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

I do too, but I do sometimes consider removing them just for space-saving reasons. It may not seem like much of a difference, but they do add up.

Do they actually though?

um, late to the party much?

LexX said:

When I saw TLJ the second time it was all too clear when half of the resistance seemed to be women to the point it just didn’t feel believable, just transparent. The contrast is so stark compared to the OT it’s ridicilous. If you’re really at war and showed people inside battleships there wouldn’t be 50% women. It’s not wrong, it’s not right, that’s just the way it is.

you are comparing this movie to your own past here on earth, and it is a fact that in the past there was a concept of ‘a woman’s place’.

I for one like the fact that Star Wars isn’t reflecting that past anymore.

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

The truth is that the fandom has gotten toxic. Even beyond the bigotry stuff, the discourse in general recently has been far too heated.

In my mind the only way to push back isn’t to get angry when people rightfully point out toxicity, it is to try to make it clear that toxicity should have no place in the fanbase. Star Wars has more fans than possibly any other piece of media. It shouldn’t be hard for all the reasonable ones to push back against the harrasers and elevate the discourse and remember at the end of the day that these are just movies, and not worth getting so angry over (something that goes both ways). Passion is fine, but the outrage on either side could probably stand to take a break for a bit.

I agree. It’s not as simple as being toxic, and non-toxic imo. These extremes are part of a larger group dynamic, which applies to critics and fans alike. Ideally we would all like to have respectful discourse, but the moment emotions run high, things can spin quickly out of control. Personally I see the group mentality where a minority is excluded from the discussion, ignored, or mocked for their opinion as a mild form of toxicity. Similarly, not being part of the majority can devolve to a form of jealosy, where those part of the majority are accused by a minority of a sheep mentality, or being apologists. These are forms of intolerance, that can easily devolve to full blown toxicity.

good points.

In response to oojason: (https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/action/reply/id/61688/quote/1225338)

respectfully, having 8 different people start PMs would be even worse. These things are always best discussed in the open, but you are right in that in can derail threads and make them ugly. That is what this thread (https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-New-The-New-Thread-Thread-Thread/id/60401) tries to solve: an open place to discuss the merits of a thread, without cluttering up the real threads.

and guess who has been trying to solve this problem for ages? TV’s Frink.

when you have a forum that has no search, we have to resort to insane organization in order to keep things functional. that is part of why this forum is unique in how much we complain about new threads, and pointless threads.

Do they watch you eat it too?

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Pretty pointless now.

We’ve been telling him that for years but he keeps doing it anyway. And then tells us he did it.

I don’t know what is so bad. I make a typo and then I correct it. What is so horrible about that?

Its pointless, that’s the point.

Brains.

Yes, I am fortunate to have been given some makeup and fake blood, and filmed as a zombie.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jay said:

Rian can bash harassers all he wants, but drawing comparisons to GamerGate and ComicsGate is going to result in the same shitty mess. I don’t want a JediGate.

I’m sure they’ll call it StarGate.

10/10

Warbler said:

DominicCobb, why did you create this thread?

Warbler is TV’s Frink sock confirmed.

DuracellEnergizer said:

dahmage said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

You can tell he enjoys his job.

Its easy to enjoy your job when you have a substantial stake in it.

11.0/10.100

That’s out standing