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- #328239
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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It's going to be dual layer, but I'm also going to convert it to AVI for those who just want a quick download.
The actual speed is highly debated, but 16fps is absolutely wrong for Metropolis. 1927 was very late in the era of silent films and by then the standard projection rate was pretty close to sound speed 24fps even if the camera speed was not (which by 1927 was around 20-22fps, give or take). The music was composed for ~25fps and the animation sequences were commisioned for the higher rate. It was common convention at the time for films to be projected slightly sped up; in fact, there's reports of complaints that the early sound films were "leaden footed" because filmgoers weren't used to natural speed. Now, I believe that 26fps is absurdly fast regardless of the fact the premiere was that speed. It was probably the studio that insisted on that.
I'm working with the American laserdisc. I actually still haven't ripped the digital, but I have the equipment. I want to see if I can use PCM for the sound rather than compressing it. If I did go to DD, it will be as high bitrate as I can.
If it doesn't work, I'll cheat and just use subtitles for the alternate languages on the "And the workers in the depths" animated titles.
I do plan on experimenting with a technique that should work. Muxman allows you to do a sort of poorman's seamless branching, as long as the alternate scene is exactly the same length as the original. Basically, you make the replaceable scene a cell, and have the IFO playlist point to a different cell when it gets there. I was going to use it for the narrative segments in other languages (the subtitles will be selectable). Assigning different angles should allow the different language threads.
I'm not sure if there is any method to do true seamless branching at home.
Mielr said:
skyjedi2005 said:
these are pictures and not film.
The kino restoration is the longest known cut to still exist.
.......until now. Those pictures have not been seen since 1926 because the footage was lost. Those stills come directly from the lost footage.
Studio Toledo said:
Having though back on the Moroder fan-edit someone wanted to do with using Kino's visuals to sync the soundtrack to, I sorta wonder how much more interesting it could be to try syncing it up to the lost footage too? That would be bitchin' if attempted!
I prefer the Moroder soundtrack over all others, too. It's the first version of the movie I ever saw (my Mom took me into NYC to see it in 1984). So, I'd like to see the Moroder soundtrack applied to this new restored version as well.
I can't believe we're talking about this! I never thought this would happen. :-)
reave, thanks for the info about the blu-ray/DVD release. I'm so thrilled the scenes will be included.
Evidently, about 23 minutes of footage has been discovered. There is still one scene missing (a monk in the cathedral), but maybe that scene can be filled in with stills or something.
Anyhow, here's a link to some more photos of the newly discovered footage:
The Moroder version is cut differently and it built to certain beats that actually make it advantageous to be a bit shorter (like a music video). I don't know if it would work the same way if it were two and a half hours. It's also a different film, made from different takes and shots are compiled differently. I do have almost the complete Moroder catalog, and some of it might be useful in an attempt. Too much of it is dance music, though.
I am still working on the Moroder restoration fan edit and it's getting closer to completion of the editing. When the Blu-Ray comes out, If I can figure out how to rip it, I'll already have a template for how to cut it to Moroder's version.
I received this from Sluggo a few weeks ago and set it aside until this month. I'm participating in a Sci-Fi movie challenge over on DVDTalk.com (100 movies in a month) and was saving this to watch. I have to say I am impressed. Great job. I'm sending it to a few other participants as well. I linked to this thread and a few people were blown away by the breadth of this fanedit.


Gots more...