bobgarcia74

Hehe, just posted a reply to your youtube comment. I think the super spin could be dumped after looking at the footage.

-He lights the saber

-Maybe add a "Force run" type sound, like a boom.

-Then just go to the shot of him landing in front of the Jedi.

For sure it would make for a "Oh sh*t!" moment. Like Palps is super bad ass.

*Edit* As for Mace being the only one left alive. I'm still going the route that Palpatine doesnt kill Mace cause he needs him to help turn Anakin. This is all part of his plan. Thats why Mace doesnt die. Otherwise Palpatine just has 4 dead Jedi in his office, and alot of explaining to do. So no need to show that Mace saw him coming. Palpatine wasnt gonna kill him anyways. Well at least, not yet.

It may be still rendering with Youtube, so might look like crap for about 30 min. But heres the basic outline. Palpatine attacks quicker, Jedi fall faster. Just as mrbenja mentioned, cause he's seen my second cut of the film.

Again Maces saber for these parts are not done yet. So dont mind the color change in between shots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIogztlbMc

Give me a few min and Ill post the clip of palpatine kiling the jedi. I made it happen alot faster. So that It seems like the Jedi are caught off guard. Maces saber is not blue yet in the following shots tho, but just to show the pacing.

doh, just got home from work. Didnt know I had it set to private. Sorry bout that

Should work now. Again it was just something small.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8A5hW-Nvuk

HotRod said:

Come on man, a little clip at least...I mean, it is the 5 year anniversary after all!! :)

 LoL. Well considering I have to head to work in about 10 min. All I can offer atm, is this small clip

*reposted the link below*

maybe I can find something else to post after I get home from work

Alot of "Super secret, I'd have to kill you" stuff going on this week. That's why no Youtubes or updates this week. Trying to keep stuff under wraps so that people will be shocked when they watch it for the first time.

But ohhhhh, it's being worked on, and worked on, and worked on. 8)

Well the debate over the idea of more Sith eyes scenes kind of worked itself out without my help. The first shot that I did looked pretty darn good, but as I'm adding the eyes to more shots It looks amazingly bad, and doesnt quite give the feeling that I was intending. It just looks very out of place.

So atm , Sith eyes are out. Based on suggestions from a few people here. I'm going to tinker around with removing them entirely from this film, with the exception of the Emperor.

As I stated before, It wasnt something that I was dead set on having added anyways. The only way I was going to include more Sith eye moments was if it helped the story, came across looking good, and promoted the idea of a struggle in Anakin. If it didnt do all 3 of those things, it wasnt going to happen.

Well the end idea is semi like you stated, His eyes will turn as he starts his attacks after Dooku taunts him. During the shot that i posted, his eyes will be sith thruout, This was sort if a test on doing the slow fade from normal to sith eyes. The eyes will remain untill after Anakin kills Dooku.

I understand your point about when Anakin has the eyes in the Original tho. But alot of things are changing from the Original, for the sake of better storytelling.

Also, this was kind of just something I decided to try, editing wise. So it actually might not even make it into the edit. Havnt decided on it yet. But at least I know it's possible for me to do it. When I really want to add a slow fade to Sith eyes is when Obi is telling Anakin that he's not on his side. During the closeup of Anakins face, right before he does the backflip to start there duel.

Next possible change, Watch in HD and watch Anakins eyes, if you blink you might miss it.

*Edit, this is just a idea. If I use this, it will be added to more shots of the scene.*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwpTE1ckgEs

Seriously tho, I think the ending part of the movie will be something that a majority of people will enjoy far greater than the original. And I'll leave it with that.

Shhh

He's saving that for the "Special Edition" DVD set

vaderios said:

Good point. I stand corrected.

Still its the same set there. At least some variation.. I might work on that

-Angel

Canceling the rest of this summer, lol.

Maybe just add a potted plant in the corner.

BTW Angel, comp was running messed up last night, didnt get a chance to work on that scene we talked about. I'll mess around with it tonight and send you the results.

ok then its vote time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHXwPWBirw
red
vs
white
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYxhmVgJKQA

Yeah, I'm leaning toward white now.

Yeah, the idea of Grievous collecting sabers off killed Jedi is being removed. Originally I loved that idea. It added some depth to Grievous's background. But as it's never really shown after the removal of the death of Shaak Ti, it's not needed.

I'm finding that with the character of Grievous (like most villains) less is far more. He's becoming more creepy by the minute.

I also feel the gains of the red saber visuals far outweighs the one line delivered by Grievous earlier in the film, which I planned on removing anyways.

Side note to sans_fi:

I've been doing alot of Clone Wars watching indeed. Only problem I'm having is deciding what lines to use. Cause there's alot of good stuff.

An update. Last one for awhile. Gonna be buckling down and getting as much of this done as possible. Took a few days break and ready to get back too it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHXwPWBirw

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

After reading your thoughts and rewatching the scene I think I agree with you on this move. (not that you need my approval  lol)

I think my original concern was that the baby gets lost in the converstaion...but I don't know if it's really a bad thing...it's not like we as the audience forget about the baby!  ;)

Thanks for the reply SSWR

Yeah, the baby getting lost wasnt too much of a concern as the baby topic pops right back up like 2 minutes later after Anakin awakes from his vision. I cut that next conversation pretty well. But the baby is mentioned again. Now with alot more concern of course.

TMBTM said:

bobgarcia74 said:

The way I edited it, It starts on a bad note. (Anakins reaction to the baby). So now the high note in the middle doesn't seem so high at all. (Them discussing what there gonna do, and Anakin tossing all there worries aside.) And then the whole scene ends on a real bad note, (Anakin letting his lust get the best of him, even after all they just talked about. And Padme having to back him off of her.) Better for this conversation to end bad, leaving questions about these two.

So the way its edited now gives us more insite to the fact that Anakin is slowly gaining more Dark Side thoughts after his ordeal on  the Invisible Hand. Selfishness, lust. He hears what he wants, and blocks out the bad.

and the scene is not much better now because of that, indeed. :)

 Well I'm doing what I can with whats given, Making lemonaid that's hopefully alittle less bitter. 8)

Lucas wanted us so bad to feel for Anakin, that he was willing to trash Vader (The Main Villain in the following 3 movies) in the process. I'm doing my best to lessen that.

Any clue as to what you would do with the scene TMBTM? I didnt want to just cut the crap out of it, like a few other edits have.

To be honest I thought it came across pretty good, Sets a darker tone to the scene.  I'm always open to thoughts and ideas.

Ripplin said:

I was gonna make a comment involving any or all of the following: koalas, kangaroos and/or wallabys, Vegemite, Paul Hogan, Yahoo Serious, Bruce[s], Monterey Jack, Steve Irwin, drongos, didgeridoos, Kylie Minogue, Chris Atkinson, etc...

...but I didn't.

In the words of the all knowing TV's Frink

"You just did"

That term is ©  by Frink btw

For starters, I'm pretty sure there's alot more use of the phrase "dingo ate my baby"

I love this! The new effects are looking great! I love how simplified the camera movements are. I do think you should remove the two words? "I suggest" from Palps. Since when does the dark lord of the Sith suggest anything? lol
Question: what was the thought process behind switching around Anakin/Padme lines? I can't decide if it works or not...hmmm
Still, VERY promising stuff!

This was posted by SomethingStarWarsRelated on my Youtube account, figured I'd respond to it here, cause then he can actually see my responce. 8)

First thing, thanks for the kind words.

The reason for the switch in the lines was because originaly the conversation starts on a high note, goes bad in the middle , and finishes on a typical high note while they hug. The way it is originaly, nothing other than the fact that Padme's pregnant comes from this conversation. We already know they have a forbidden love thing going on. So originaly this scene is a big waste of time.

The way I edited it, It starts on a bad note. (Anakins reaction to the baby). So now the high note in the middle doesn't seem so high at all. (Them discussing what there gonna do, and Anakin tossing all there worries aside.) And then the whole scene ends on a real bad note, (Anakin letting his lust get the best of him, even after all they just talked about. And Padme having to back him off of her.) Better for this conversation to end bad, leaving questions about these two.

So the way its edited now gives us more insite to the fact that Anakin is slowly gaining more Dark Side thoughts after his ordeal on  the Invisible Hand. Selfishness, lust. He hears what he wants, and blocks out the bad.

More character development the way I did it. Least thats what I think. 8)

 And btw snicket, I love the flares, looking good.

vaderios said:

Sneak of the possible edit's logo :)

-Angel

 APPROVED 8)

Octorox said:

The way I see it the dream sequences are the easiest way to influence the edit. They can imply things and create emotion without too much seamless, continuity style cutting necessary. The content of these sequences can radically alter the film.

 Agreed. Thats why I did it 8)

The visions are still up for grabs. I was planning on keeping them, cause both have added Obi-wan dialogue to help drive Anakin futher away from the Jedi and better help to explain his fall.

At the start of the movie Palpatine gets Anakin to give into his hatred when he kills Dooku, But then he's pulled back away from Palpatine by his feelings for his master. Palpatine sees this. So then the visions can be seen as a tool of Palpatine. Placed into Anakins mind to get him right where he needs him to be.

I wasn't planning on relying mainly on the whole "I gave into the Dark Side to save the one I loved" angle. It's more along the lines that Anakin feels that the only one who understands his frustration and that he can really trust is Palpatine.

The visions help promote the idea of distrust in Obi-wan from Anakins point of view. Which helps better explain Anakin's hatred for Obi-wan in their final showdown. Without it, its just. "OK, I'm a Sith now, and I have to hate you, because thats what us Sith do."

 After watching the visions with the extra dialogue from Obi, a few of the conversations between Anakin and Obi-wan seem different. The looks that Anakin shoots Obi sort of say "What are you plotting, old man?". And they also help explain why Anakin wont go to Obi-wan for help.

But like i started this post saying. This part is still up for grabs. So I'll give it some thought.

****Edit. As I was typing this, Bingowings pretty much summed up what I was trying to accomplish with the dreams. lol

 And yeah, the second vision is worse than the first. this one just lays down the tracks." ****

Update.

It's a first draft, audio and one of the wipes needs fine tuning.

Also some of the images will be upgraded.

Thank You Angel for the backdrop help.  Fine work as always.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c3tV_Qh6TQ

This change serves several purposes.

1.Cut down on the insane amount of footage of ships landing.
2.Show a different side of Utapah. Cause based on the original movie, it always Noon time on Utapah.
3.To better setup the scene that follows. I'm not a huge fan of really evil dudes in pretty places.
4.Changing this clip also allows for Utapah to retain some mystery until later in the film when Obi-wan arrives. (To almost the same exact footage as the original Grievous landing clip.)

I want to send a thank you to Snicket for offering his help with this monster edit that seems to be unfolding. And to everyone giving kind words about the work being done here, thanks a ton. It helps more than a full cup of coffee at 3 am. Cheers