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#1132678
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Ask the Muslim! (a.k.a. interrogate the Muslim)
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Warbler said:
What about those that are Muslim? shouldn’t they be free to leave the faith and not follow Sharia Law?

They should be, according to Quran 88:21–22. Unfortunately, a tradition has grown in the middle east that leaving Islam deserves the death penalty. This is another case where people are giving tradition a greater precedent than actual passages from the Quran.

What about all the oppressive rules on women? I’ve heard horror stories about women being beaten up just because they decided to drive a car or because they were raped.

Well, lynching of different sorts happens all over the world. Do Middle Eastern Muslims engage in this more than average? I honestly don’t know–I’ve never been to the Middle East. Either way, I think its important to note that such events are not state-sanctioned. They are done by violent mobs.

does not necessarily mean violent acts? Does that mean that it could sometimes mean violent acts?

Technically yes but there’s no need today. That passage came from a time where Muslims were under siege in their city.

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#1132666
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Ask the Muslim! (a.k.a. interrogate the Muslim)
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Warbler said:

What is the different between Sunni and Shiite Muslims?

Sunni Muslims believed that Muhammad’s successor should be chosen based on the best fit, Shiite Muslims thought that it should be someone who was chosen based upon relationship to Muhammad. Today, Sunnis have more of a focus on following the Quran, while Shiites are more focused on following the words of the authorities. So in that way you could think of the difference between Catholics and Protestants.

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#1129270
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Ask the Muslim! (a.k.a. interrogate the Muslim)
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darthrush said:

I am curious about what your thoughts on Sharia law are?

I often found it similar to the ridiculous content in the old testament in which God commits genocide for one person being gay. And it annoys me to no end when people think they can attack Sharia law but not admit the faults of their own holy book.

Nevertheless I still feel like both set of the teachings I refer to are quite reprehensible from a modern moral sense and am curious how you reconcile the teachings of Sharia law within your own personal beliefs?

And thanks for putting the thread up! I could use some more first hand knowledge on this religion which most definitely has so many beautiful aspects to it and I have a close Muslim friend of mine who I never have the nerve to talk to about his religion.

Hey Darthrush! Before I get started–Many people make the mistake of thinking that Sharia law is all from the Quran. Some of it is based in that, but in fact it was all built up over the years throughout history. So, some of it is based on precedent, and not on actual teachings.

Realizing that fact, I think that where Sharia law has become messed up in many Muslim communities is that they use it in a reactionary way in relation to the depraved ways of the outside world. In other words, they feel like because the rest of the world is so materialistic/immoral, they need to double down and make sure their world becomes nothing like the outside world. In that way, they are letting the world control them-- just not in the way they think.

So anyway, a couple of my thoughts:

  1. Some people say that Muslim law is oppressive. To Western values, I suppose it is. But who says western values are the best values? Properly applied, muslim law protects. Specifically, it protects our religion, human life, intellect, sanctity, lineage, and wealth.

  2. Sharia law is for Muslims. It is not for non-Muslims! If you do not want to follow it, do not become a Muslim.

  3. This is something that many of the wacko-Muslims in the middle east have forgotten. Back when we were the conquerors, we treated societies we conquered kindly. We let them live their own ways. Perhaps, because we often feel conquered (western influences in Middle East), we feel like we need to go around forcing Sharia law on everything. It’s like we feel that if we don’t do this, we’ll just collapse. I think this shows a huge lack of faith in God and in the beauty of our religion. Which leads me to my next point…

  4. An ideal worldwide would be one that is a theocracy (and ruled by sharia law). However, we know that this is not going to happen until the end times. So, until then we are commanded to spread the faith by Jihad (holy war). “Holy war” does not necessarily mean violent acts. It could also mean what is called by Christians “missionary work”.

  5. The Islamist extremists (like al-qaeda) claim that they are waging Jihad against the USA and the West. This is just dumb. The USA had never tried to kill Muslims. The west had tried to interfere in our politics in order to protect the UK’s oil interests. While this is bad, this is also the basis of the extremists’ beef with the west. Who’s the real materialist? It would appear to be al-qaeda.

Anyway, sorry, I think I’ve kind of gone off on some tangents. Your question was more about me personally.
I believe that the laws prescribed for us in the Quran are the way to happiness. However, I do struggle with the punishments the Quran sometimes prescribes for those who might fall short. But then, What does it really mean? How strict are we to read it? Scripture can always be so ambiguous. I think we need to realize that just because one community interprets it one way, that does not need to be the way everywhere does it. It isn’t an issue of literalism vs. being lax, it’s an issue of applying the scripture to yourself. I think I am lucky to live in a place where Muslims are in the minority, and strict Sharia cannot be implemented among the government. Faith is a matter of personal choice.

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#1129211
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Ask the Muslim! (a.k.a. interrogate the Muslim)
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Hello guys! I’m a Sunni Muslim living in America.

A bit about me: My parents are emigrants from Pakistan who came to the USA for college and decided to stay. I’m an 18 year-old soon to be college student (this January!). I’m pretty much an average american kid, except for the fact that I am Muslim.

Islam is a religion a lot of people hear a lot about, yet don’t know much about. So naturally lots of people are curious about it. So if anyone has any questions about my religion, I am happy to answer.

I’ve made this for people who are curious and generally interested. I don’t expect you to become Muslim, and I’m sure you don’t expect me to become whatever you are. If you are just here to ask obnoxious and derogatory questions, I’m just going to ignore you. You might as well just not post.

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#1127953
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The problem of Owen Lars
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poita said:

Possessed said:

Well I think it was at least before post production, I remember an interview with Mark where he said George pulled him aside before shooting the scene and told him so he would know to react stronger than expected.

Kershner pulled him aside just before they shot the scene, and told Hamill that George knows this, I know this, and now you know this. the implication was that if this leaks, it will have come from YOU.
On the set, David Prowse said ‘Obi Wan killed your father’, so the crew and other actors didn’t know the truth.
Even Harrison Ford only found out at the screening.
It was one of the best kept secrets ever, I can’t imagine them pulling it off now.

Nope. It would be leaked.

Or–it (the possibility of it) would have already been discussed to death on theforce.net, so that when it actually happened, it wouldn’t be cool at all.

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#1127586
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox?
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Wazzles said:

TheQuazz said:

I’m kind of shocked that some of you guys are more excited by the prospect of this allowing Star Wars/Superhero movie rights to be cleaned up rather than horrified at how this shows that it’s within Disney’s power to own more than half of the studios producing mainstream movies. Hopefully this won’t fall through.

It’s definitely a concern of mine, but the prospect of an official release of the OUT is clouding my judgement.

lol same here

also I can’t see how this gets approved. There are only six movie companies right now…If I were in charge of merging I wouldn’t let them get merged!

http://www.chron.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/The-Simpsons-Predicted-Disney-Would-Buy-12338313.php

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#1125006
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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oojason said:

Anchorhead said:

Just saw a trailer during the World Series. Great shot of Luke stepping into the cockpit of the Falcon.

It’s now up on the Star Wars youtube channel too:-

‘The Last Jedi : Awake’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4CB5SeBGkI

😃

I can see they must have a low budget this time around. Obviously, for Snoke’s throne room, they just turned the green screen background on set to red.

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#1123926
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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I’m so confused right now.

Though I have to say, the eight Star Wars films must be the eight most interesting pieces of cinema to learn about. What other films have such an intense lore surrounding the making of them?

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#1119115
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The problem of Owen Lars
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Anchorhead said:

Isn’t there an early script where Luke is older than Annikin? I’ll try to find where I saw it.

That would be the first draft. Luke was the Obi-Wan figure with Annikin playing the hot-headed apprentice.

I really like reading the old Star Wars drafts, and older drafts of the prequels. Somehow, when you just read a premise, what you briefly imagine ends up being better than any movie actually is.

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#1119113
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Should Disney/LFL create an Alternative Prequel Trilogy?
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NeverarGreat said:

The prequels are too ingrained in the public consciousness to simply remake them without a lot of issues. I think the best idea, if they went the prequel route, would be to make a trilogy that happens concurrently with the Lucas prequels and exists in the same continuity, but focus on the smaller players in the Clone Wars. Episode 1 starts in the middle of the clone wars, Episode 2 happens alongside ROTS, and Episode 3 depicts a galaxy ravaged by war under the iron fist of the Empire. Focusing on normal people rather than Jedi would make the Droid/Clone armies actually threatening, and it could explore some new droid design space since there were many separatist factions. The films could reference the political situation, but never more than happened in the OT. The Jedi remain largely mythical, the story takes place on the fringes of civilization like in the OT, everyone’s happy.

Unfortunately, you speak a lot of truth.

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#1119111
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How do you feel about the saga continuing without Palpatine?
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[replying to original post]
I don’t really care. All it really does is prove that George was wrong about Star Wars being some super big planned out epic. Turns out its just a serial, always more of the same. Beat one bad guy, move onto the next.

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#1119110
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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TV’s Frink said:

YodaFan67 said:

  1. Disney got some complaints about how violent and sad Rogue One was, especially in comparison to mostly lighthearted (and also PG-13) TFA. I mean, yes TFA had action but it was a cartoony sort of action. Rogue One was a flat out war movie.

TFA had the opening where an entire village is slaughtered and also had Han Solo murdered pretty brutally.

True, but I think there’s a big difference between this and Rogue One. Literally everyone died and there was all sorts of “gray” violence. I remember Cassian literally murdering a rebel informant?

I actually wish they’d make the Star Wars movies PG. They’d feel less like bloated blockbusters that way, I think.

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#1118624
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Episode VIII Discussion *SPOILER THREAD*
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Rian Johnson replied this when asked if the movie was okay for a seven-year-old:
"It really depends on the 7 year old. There are intense things in the movie, but I don’t think anything worse than in the OT or prequels."
https://www.cnet.com/news/star-wars-last-jedi-appropriate-for-kids-director-rian-johnson-george-lucas/

I’d really be surprised if it was any worse than Rogue One. It’s weird that they’re advertising that it has intense scenes, though. Assuming Rian Johnson was telling the truth in his tweet, two possibilities are in my mind:

  1. Intensity might be referring to things that we as adults aren’t bothered by, but kids might take very seriously. For example, we might see Luke or Rey getting tortured horribly, and while it wouldn’t make an adult blink an eye (it’s nothing even close to R rated material), to a kid it might be kind of a traumatic to see someone getting tortured like that. I’m sort of thinking of the shot in the trailer where Snoke is kind of bending over Rey with the force.

  2. Disney got some complaints about how violent and sad Rogue One was, especially in comparison to mostly lighthearted (and also PG-13) TFA. I mean, yes TFA had action but it was a cartoony sort of action. Rogue One was a flat out war movie.

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