Trooperman

In all honesty, I think I'm excited for Ep. 7, for the following reasons:

1. The trilogy is based on a plot by George Lucas.  George Lucas is actually very good at plot and art design- it's the execution that can get screwed up.  George Lucas writing the plot gives it authenticity as a SW movie.

2. The script is written by Michael Arndt.  Michael Arndt has a stellar record and has lectured on why the original 1977 SW is so great.  Perfect choice because he is not just mediocre- he is good.  The script is the most important part and they got it right.

3. Harrison Ford is back. 

4. Although I did not like JJ's Star Trek, I think both he and Disney know that this is too important to screw up.  Especially as the 1st film of many under the Disney brand, Disney will not allow them to release garbage.  Much like 20th Century Fox in the original Star Wars, they will have their eye on how things are going and prevent major blunders from happening. 

Bingowings said:

I'm a homosexual but perhaps there would be less heterosexual virgins on these boards if you guys kept the thoughts but kept quiet about them.

I haven't had sex yet and proud of it. 

Waiting for the wife:) 

SilverWook said:

Maybe we will finally see some female troopers? ;)

Wow.  Excellent idea Silverwook. Even if the movies were bad, that would make them good. 

And besides, we all know women can't drive, and revealing the stormtroopers to be women would explain why they can't shoot for crap in the OT.  :p

Win-win.

That treatment page of Episodes 7-12 completely blank always cracks me up.  Good planning there, George. 

In all seriousness, I am sure he did actually come up with some ideas for those episodes. 

For instance, I remember him explaining that each trilogy was on a different philosophical theme. 

Episodes 1-3 was the POLITICAL TRILOGY.

Episodes 4-6 was the SELF-ACTUALIZATION TRILOGY (the hero's journey)

Episodes 7-12 I don't remember.

There was a comment made by somebody, though, who read the treatments for 7-9 back in the day and thought that they were the most exciting/dramatic movies of the entire series. 

Of course, that may have been the now-obsolete versions with Luke's other sister, the Emperor revealed, and etc.

To me the greatest tragedy is the way the music got hacked apart.  It destroys completely the momentum of that important scene.  It is akin to painting graffiti on some great art masterwork.  It is bad.

zombie84 said:

Trooperman said:

How about: Why the prequels sucked. 

Some sort of expository scene 1/3 of the way through Episode 7, explaining that the original Episode 1-3 was a video game virtual reality meant to fool Luke of the real truth.  Kind of Matrix-like. 

Then Luke must again face the unknown.

LoL.

LOL.

What is funnier yet is that the more I think about it, the more sense this would make. 

The surreal CGI settings. 

The CGI characters: Jar-Jar, Watto, Grievous, etc. 

R2 flying, 3p0's head off, and all other crazy kinds of things that break physical laws. 

The wooden, trance-like acting. 

The lag time between when one character finishes speaking and the other one begins (caused by crappy editing)....

How about: Why the prequels sucked. 

Some sort of expository scene 1/3 of the way through Episode 7, explaining that the original Episode 1-3 was a video game virtual reality meant to fool Luke of the real truth.  Kind of Matrix-like. 

Then Luke must again face the unknown.

Of course you all know that as a condition of George Lucas' sale, he stipulated in the contract, as his only demand, that the Special Editions only are to be viewed or distributed for perpetuity.

SilverWook said:

I hope George keeps straying off Disney's PR script...

Me too.  George Lucas always spilling the beans is pretty funny. 

I like him in this new capacity!

Ideally I would like to see great movies with classic-era artistry and craft. 

Realistically with J.J. Abrams, I would just like to see something watchable and hopefully entertaining.

sean wookie said:

Well, I mean she has a job, an education, a car. I have none of these.

But don't you see man, you have already lost if you are thinking this way.  It's all attitude! So she has a job, education, car, etc.  That's a great thing but it doesn't make her an intrinsically better person or you a worse person. 

You may be overflowing with values and/or traits that she doesn't have any of or has very little of.  In fact, that is probably the case. 

This is why I believe the true version of a film SHOULD be the 4th generation theatrical print, because that is the version everybody saw and THAT is the format that everything, from the cinematography to the special effects work, was intended for. 

Plus, 4th generation negative although it may have the same resolution as a DVD or similar, looks nothing like a DVD blowup (looks much better, more contrasty, different grain structure). 

It is a disservice to old movies to display them from the O-neg where you can see wires on the ships, matte boxes, etc.  It's not just because they were "old" that you see these things- if the o-neg was the final viewing format, those directors back in the day would have found the effects just as off-putting as we do! 

^^Agreed. If you see her as out of your league you have already lost because girls pick up on that stuff. 

Just take charge and act natural and you will do great!

HotRod said:

Don't  me wrong, he still comes up with wonderful themes (duel of the fates, across the stars, flag parade, droid army,a couple from Sith) it's the in between stuff is where I think he's lost it!!

Agreed. 

I think there was also just more testosterone behind the original SW scores- there is an aggression and energy there that is not present in the prequel scores (although I think Episode 1 definitely captured that energy again in large part.  Expectations were huge for Episode 1).

Everybody ages and not everybody can be at 100% all the time.  I still enjoy JW's music and I think that he is motivated by good material, it's just that he hasn't had many truly great movies to score lately. 

TV's Frink said:

Does Han deserve a Solo film?

LOL

fishmanlee said:

It would be nice if Williams could atleast do like he did for Superman IV and write themes/music for Giacchino to work with.

That could work really well. Or could have John Williams in a supervisory capacity, kind of an apprenticeship for Giacchino.  "That cue is good, this one needs some work, let me rewrite these bars, etc." 

That way the new generation is being trained and you have Williams' brilliance combined with youthful energy like Giacchino.

"wielding a lightsaber would be like flying a spaceship; lots of people can do it, so we need to raise the stakes"

I like this.  Have the Jedi wielding a different weapon.  Maybe bring the Kyber Crystal idea back.  Then it starts becoming fantasy/magical, though. 

But Star Wars is a fantasy to begin with.

I would like to see Russel Crowe, Mel Gibson, and Arnold as the villains.  Then everybody would go to see it.

I think it is important to remember that nobody including John Williams has ever matched John Williams from 1975-1984.  Every single score he did was brilliant-even for throwaway movies like Dracula and Jaws 2.  That was his creative peak and all 3 of the original SW movies fit into that time period. 

That said, I did think Ep. I was excellent.  Think of Duel of the Fates, The Flag Parade, Anakin's theme.  It was a very good score.  I think not nearly as much effort went into Ep. 2 and 3, but can we blame him? 

I thought "War Horse" had some welcome energy in it- I wholeheartedly believe that if JW is presented with an outstanding movie, he will rise to the occasion. 

My feelings are mixed. I would have preferred Michael Vaughn or Spielberg.  I didn't care much for the new Trek- I thought it suffered from "modern movie syndrome". 

However, on a Star Wars movie it's not just the director- the script plays a big role and John Williams always plays a big role. 

I am hoping that Star Wars 7 has a very different feel from "Star Trek" and that it takes chances artistically. 

OK, I'll keep an eye on it and PM you if/when it is rescheduled.

It is a very old movie theater- I don't want to put the name on this public forum because I want it to work out.

It was going to be prints of the entire trilogy, shown back to back, in their original versions.

They say postponed, but I'll bet that they don't end up rescheduling it.  Lucasfilm doesn't hand OOT prints out like candy and I don't know what other source they would use...

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