NeverarGreat

Yes.

After watching this https://youtu.be/GErIPKjwuDg?t=2977 I was thinking about one of her ideas, and it’s a cool one. Basically Rey caused her parent’s spaceship to crash all those years ago when they left her.

This makes sense on a lot of levels, some explained by Jenny but since it gives her powerful Force sensitivity since birth, it makes more sense that these powers are the result of bloodline rather than a spontaneous arising of the Force in response to extraordinary circumstances. She even says that the Force has always been inside her. By showing her powers from a young age, there’s also good reason to accept her powers later on in the films. Finally, this makes sense of Kylo’s odd statement that Rey’s parents are buried on Jakku despite apparently leaving the planet.

So how would this be communicated in a fanedit?

I would keep Rey’s vision in TFA the same. The ship flies off and she cries out.

In TLJ, she has a vision under Luke’s island where she sees the image of her parent’s crashed spaceship - still salvageable, but with two bodies lying on the sand beside it. A shadow lies over them, as if a hooded figure is standing off screen.

In TROS, as Rey pulls the transport to her, she has a flashback of her parents leaving and her struggling to pull them back, causing an explosion in one engine and sending the ship falling out of the sky and over some distant dunes.

SPOILERS of course - Two guys discuss TROS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNyTF_iiAR8

Is there footage from the game that shows this? I saw a cinematic but the planet didn’t have the trench visible.

One film I actually wouldn’t mind getting a Special Edition with updated CGI, as long as the original is preserved of course.

Using the vision effect from ROTS has been bothering me. The only vision we got in the OT was the darkside cave, and yet that trippy, genuinely disturbing low-framerate effect has never been replicated in either the PT or the ST. I wonder what Rey’s vision in TFA would look like with that effect?

Maybe for future visions there could be a combination of ROTS vision halo and ESB vision framerate.

There were far worse ways to close out the saga than with a focus on one of the two droids that have seen it all.

Keanine said:

NeverarGreat said:

It’s my understanding that for the original TPM puppet (Creepy Puppet Yoda) they were trying to go for a younger look. When that didn’t play well for audiences they instead tried to return to the look of the ESB puppet in digital form. They tried their best (in 2002 CGI terms) but it still wasn’t nearly right.

So as far as I have been able to tell, the CGI was really their best attempt at replicating the ESB puppet.

That’s a fair point, CGI was still being pushed to its limits at the time so you are probably right. I would have thought Lucas would have wanted to go back and update it, but perhaps he grew to prefer the updated design? This is all conjecture of course

This documentary actually delves into the creation of the CGI Yoda in great detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh-5UhwcBW0

In the first few minutes they talk about how the ESB puppet was their reference.

JEDIT: If they used a CGI Yoda on TLJ, I wonder if they would have modeled him speficially as a puppet with a puppeteer hand inside manipulating the digital apparatus, and had this digital hand motion captured for authenticity. Sort of a recursive way of recreating the original feel.

It’s my understanding that for the original TPM puppet (Creepy Puppet Yoda) they were trying to go for a younger look. When that didn’t play well for audiences they instead tried to return to the look of the ESB puppet in digital form. They tried their best (in 2002 CGI terms) but it still wasn’t nearly right.

So as far as I have been able to tell, the CGI was really their best attempt at replicating the ESB puppet.

For Disney’s future with Star Wars, this is the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUgAUFE6-SY

Obligatory. But this is where Star Wars becomes a classic. If the movie ended after this scene we would still be talking about it 40 years later.

He looks genuinely creepy in this. Definitely up there with ROTJ but in a more undead way.

But even that doesn’t explain why the Imperial map from 40 years ago has a hole in it with a dotted line leading to the hole which perfectly fits around the piece reconstructed by Tekka, which also has that line continued to Luke’s island. Like, that map from the Empire must have been specifically intended to find that one Jedi temple, implying that Palps was working on finding it even after he assumed all the Jedi were gone, and it somehow got included in the installation CDs for the Death Star, and it would have been accidentally unrestricted information because even a floorplan of the Death Star detention block is unavailable to R2. And all of this implies that the Rebellion/New Republic/Resistance didn’t have this intel from the Empire even after conquering said Empire, nor did they have even a scrap of data from this region of space which would allow them to triangulate the rest of the map’s position. At this point I’m worried that the Resistance doesn’t know how a telescope works.

I’m sorry. I started thinking about it again.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Not really related to the conversation at hand, but in October I went to the movies to see The Lighthouse. Not a big deal, right? Well, it was for me; this was the first — and at present, only — time I’ve actually been to the theatres. And I enjoyed the experience very, very much. I got a great seat, the handful of people in the theatre with me kept quiet, and the film itself was excellent.

It kinda blows my mind that you’ve seen so many movies and this is the first one you’ve seen they way they were meant to be seen. There’s something special about being in a theater with a crowd of fellow audience members. It sounds like you had a group who was quiet and I usually appreciate that, but some of my favorite experiences are those colored by the reactions of the audience, especially the precocious comments of the youth who don’t yet know proper theater etiquette.

Anyway, glad you enjoyed it and I hope you go again in the future!

No.

In order for this to work the person has to speak highly specific phrases in order to generate a voice profile. This is to prevent just such a thing as making a profile of someone else.

My thoughts as well. Really hope to see it again soon.

If Leia is a Jedi then why on Alderaan was she looking for Luke instead of stepping up and becoming the ‘spark of hope’ herself?

I left a brief review on a more SJW film site in which I said that I liked it while listing the caveats that it was a mess which often ruined aspects of previous films such as the excellent Rey-nobody angle. Even with this middling praise however I was downvoted severely for not hating it enough.

There’s toxicity on all sides. It’s tough to express enjoyment for Star Wars.

OutboundFlight said:

Snooker, I have a similar opinion, but with the opposite movies. I’ve tried to rewatch TLJ many times, and each time it’s made me bored by the characters. It was only until seeing this movie when I realized I liked Rey, Finn, and Poe on the same level as the OT in TFA and TROS, just TLJ was the difference.

I think part of it is the themes. TLJ tries to create complex themes and personally I think it is at the expense of the characters and their arcs TFA was pointing them in. The only part I liked was Luke’s story, but even then I think it came at the expense of making Rey bland.

Now for TROS, yes, the plot is stupid, but I think the character drama is on point. Whereas the Last Jedi felt so run by it’s themes.

This is my feeling. TFA had fun characters but barely said anything with them. TLJ tried to say something but made the characters boring in the process. TROS brought the fun back to the characters but while running so far in the opposite direction with the message that it went back around to being good-bad. And so for me TROS manages to be the first movie of this trilogy that is fun on all fronts.

I feel you. The homestead was touching as a denouement, but you’re right that she should have been with her new family.

The image I had in my head for the end of this trilogy and 9 movie saga was something bigger, grander, more musical than what we got. I just imagined everyone in the Resistance gathered together on some big cliff being joined by the multitudes given hope by Luke, with X-wings and A-wings flying in formation and generally going crazy. Rey on the shoulders of Finn and Poe, her lightsaber raised to the heavens in triumph, John Williams losing his mind with grandiosity.

But no, it’s a somewhat awkward shot of the twin suns for the third time, and a reused piece of music from TFA.

Speaking of Ewoks, the first thing my sleep-deprived mind thought of after seeing the shattered destroyer in the sky above the Endor moon was that this Ewok pilot must have done it. Thinking about it some more it makes 100% more sense that one of Jannah’s compatriots would have done it.

Random thought after seeing TROS: I’m now more pleased than ever that I changed the ending and end music of Starlight, so that now each film will end on a different musical cue.

Thank you Ziggy, and it’s quite true. There’s a wide variation of opinion on the jokey aspects of the movies so I’ve tried to stick to changes which can be rationalized in terms of plot and character rather than tone, which varies greatly from person to person.