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#1050098
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Sir Ridley said:

NeverarGreat said:

I know that Sir Ripley was working on removing the timecode from the deleted scene so that it could be useable in this edit. Apart from that, I don’t know what the decision was on the Finn line edit. It can be rendered in full quality as well if there’s interest in using it.

Right, I haven’t tried much yet but I think it will be doable. Which Finn line do you mean, the one where Poe mentions the weapon system?

That’s the one.

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#1049928
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George Lucas's worst decision
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SilverWook said:

Mithrandir said:

I think George’s worst decission was not to trust himself enough.

Unlike what most of people think, at times (and only at times) I believe he failed on looking and caring way too much what other people (the industry) was doing when he engaged the prequels. The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix. The Coliseum in AOTC from Gladiator. Qui Gonn came out of someone’s suggestion.

In his initial schemes for TPM back in '97, the Jedi duo was supposed to be ObiWan and a teen Anakin. Had it gone that way without caring about loosing market (sorry, audience) with Matrix or Lord of the Rings, the PT would have turned out a better arc. But from there on, a chain reaction of bad choices took place, of which Jar Jar was just the least important (though perhaps the most evident) of all (if there was no baby Anakin, there was no need of going to Tatooine, or at least not in the same terms where comic releaf was needed to make a light-hearted middle act in a dull desert planet).

There are chosen one types in ancient mythology though, and Edgar Rice Burroughs was having John Carter battle Martians in a gladitorial arena over a century ago. So much has been outright lifted from ERB’s books, that when Disney made John Carter, it seemed like a rehash of those concepts to the uninitiated.

I don’t know about the casting of kid Anakin, since any reasonable director who was listening to the input of writers/fans/other people in general, would have gone with the troubled teenager from the first draft. I suspect that George wanted to be edgy and buck the expectation with his casting of Jake Lloyd as the most Leave It To Beaver innocent youth he could find. I believe his stated reason was that Darth Vader is only a tragic tale if he begins as an inherently good person who is nevertheless corrupted by evil, and if that story were well told, it could have been true. However, child Anakin has little relation to teenage Anakin, who has little relation to Darth Vader. It is a bridge too far, and what really felled Lucas was an inability to recognize and correct his directoral deficiencies.

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#1049876
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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I know that Sir Ripley was working on removing the timecode from the deleted scene so that it could be useable in this edit. Apart from that, I don’t know what the decision was on the Finn line edit. It can be rendered in full quality as well if there’s interest in using it.

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#1049866
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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JawsTDS said:

NeverarGreat said:

JawsTDS said:

DominicCobb said:

JawsTDS said:

DominicCobb said:

JawsTDS said:

Tobar said:

KumoNin said:

(SORT OF SPOILERS FOR SW:BLOODLINE MAYBE)

Having just finished reading Bloodline, I’ve only just realised it was Korrie who Leia sends to her vainful death…

It’s a shame they cut this scene.

J.J. prioritized ‘fan service’ over effectiveness.

What? I think this is proof of the opposite.

He wanted Leia to appear at a certain moment in the film, for maximum “nostalgia” effect. Thus, important scenes like this were left on the cutting room floor.

Maximum nostalgia or not, that was the most effective place to put her introduction. I think having her in the film from the start would have been fan service when she only becomes important to the story halfway through.

That being said, I think Leia’s introduction in the final cut is perfect, but we lost scenes that could have provided much needed context.

Is that context really necessary for this film though? Whether the Resistance has the full support of the Republic isn’t something that really affects the story of TFA in any significant way.

Not to say there couldn’t or shouldn’t have been more context, but it wasn’t worth sacrificing the pacing and structure of the film just for the sake of these Resistance scenes.

I’d say it does need context, especially since this cut scene shows us Korrie’s relationship with Leia. In the final cut we only see her being vaporized, with no idea who she was.

That was my biggest gripe with TFA - there was no thorough explanation as to who was doing what in the New Republic. It is just miraculously destroyed… again.

TFA Restructured v2 may re-incorporate this scene into the Resistance Base, which would make it my go-to version of the film.

Still need to watch the first version, as I hear it really fixes up the final act of the film. If that scene can somehow be wedged into the film, I’ll definitely give it a watch.

We are working hard to make it so.

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#1049791
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure
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Here is the Starkiller Destruction scene in full quality:

https://mega.nz/#!6I0hRIIB!jgSEEnA-38cgv_7BL1RNCvbgpGWeBoQa4W1-ymkxO28

And since there were some concerns as to the relative levels of sound effects to music, I have rendered separate audio files for just the sound effects

https://mega.nz/#!jYE2gLTR!uuocFR69rewJ7IrKco5_MdXVeteqwBV45ErjwDZ6E5M

…and music only

https://mega.nz/#!OAtkDYTC!cboWXzD8RVBjwwitCvvXBLhdO3uuNZreKs03u6r6gGw

Another reason for separate tracks is that the music is a Youtube rip, so it would probably be worth it to use the high quality soundtrack file in place of mine.

JEDIT: The video has some jittery movement, I uploaded a replacement that uses frame blending:

https://mega.nz/#!6d9XkJjL!FsuMgBXeD0ZZGaxIJ_t9JZsMgr-GkSFAWrTvDIMY3lA

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#1049773
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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JawsTDS said:

DominicCobb said:

JawsTDS said:

DominicCobb said:

JawsTDS said:

Tobar said:

KumoNin said:

(SORT OF SPOILERS FOR SW:BLOODLINE MAYBE)

Having just finished reading Bloodline, I’ve only just realised it was Korrie who Leia sends to her vainful death…

It’s a shame they cut this scene.

J.J. prioritized ‘fan service’ over effectiveness.

What? I think this is proof of the opposite.

He wanted Leia to appear at a certain moment in the film, for maximum “nostalgia” effect. Thus, important scenes like this were left on the cutting room floor.

Maximum nostalgia or not, that was the most effective place to put her introduction. I think having her in the film from the start would have been fan service when she only becomes important to the story halfway through.

That being said, I think Leia’s introduction in the final cut is perfect, but we lost scenes that could have provided much needed context.

Is that context really necessary for this film though? Whether the Resistance has the full support of the Republic isn’t something that really affects the story of TFA in any significant way.

Not to say there couldn’t or shouldn’t have been more context, but it wasn’t worth sacrificing the pacing and structure of the film just for the sake of these Resistance scenes.

I’d say it does need context, especially since this cut scene shows us Korrie’s relationship with Leia. In the final cut we only see her being vaporized, with no idea who she was.

That was my biggest gripe with TFA - there was no thorough explanation as to who was doing what in the New Republic. It is just miraculously destroyed… again.

TFA Restructured v2 may re-incorporate this scene into the Resistance Base, which would make it my go-to version of the film.

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#1049645
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Neverar's 1080p Star Wars Color Correction
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You’re welcome! I wouldn’t consider my work to be in the same league as Adywan, though I suppose our projects both proceed at a similar glacial pace 😉

On that note, my computer’s primary hard drive died last Friday, and I’ve just gotten everything back up and running. My project files are stored on two external drives, so I didn’t lose any of the work for this project, but all of my editing software was lost along with over a month of journal entries. On the plus side, the replacement drive is almost twice the size of the original, so there may be a noticeable increase in editing performance going forward.

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#1047557
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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FVDnz said:

With speculation that Hayden Christiansen may return in The Last Jedi to reprise Force Ghost Anakin, will he remain at the end of ROTJR?! I know Adywan intends on reinserting Sebastian Shaw and all, but at the end of the day, he’s still not regarding the Sequel Trilogy is he? Maybe recreate a more decent looking Force Ghost version of Hayden compared to what we got recently possibly…

I can’t imagine that this is within the realm of consideration for TLJ.

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#1045336
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Neverar's 1080p Star Wars Color Correction
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The garage scene is just about finished. I decided to use the detail from the SE and the color from the '77 version for the Leia Hologram, in keeping with the stated goals of the project:
Hologram
Comparison

In case anyone’s keeping track, this puts my progress at:

Reel 1: Preliminary Grade 100% - Finalized 100%
Reel 2: Preliminary Grade 90% - Finalized 30%
Reel 3: Preliminary Grade 100% - Finalized 90%
Reel 4: Preliminary Grade 100% - Finalized 100%
Reel 5: Preliminary Grade 100% - Finalized 93%
Reel 6: Preliminary Grade 85% - Finalized 85%
Total Preliminary: 95.8% - Finalized 83%

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#1044962
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The Phantom Star Wars Fan
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Mocata said:

Guess this will do for an introduction, but I’m not sure what this really means any more. Star Wars in a way has been my number one interest for probably 20-plus years. We used to read the old Technical Journal book and play Dark Forces II. I had the Empire soundtrack on a copied cassette tape. I had my favourite minor alien characters in action figure form. But Star Wars isn’t what it used to be, and after growing out of the phase in which The Phantom Menace was an acceptable movie to watch things get hazy.

Those original three films are still fresh in my mind of course, and I don’t have to watch the GOUT anymore, thank the maker. But these days it’s becoming a bigger franchise than I care for; perhaps it’s age but the latest instalments are merely passable. People say you’re not a fan for this. But then again people like Revenge of the Sith. What does being a Star Wars fan mean? I don’t know. I’m a fan of Star Wars, it was an indy film that came out in the late 1970s.

Welcome to the forums!

Sorry about the mess. . . .

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#1044720
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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dahmage said:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/army-grant-easement-dakota-access-pipeline/story?id=45330548

trump doesn’t think the pipeline is controversial. Can any reasonable person justify that line of “thinking”?

It’s just one misrepresentation after another from Trump. In the case of the Keystone XL pipeline, it would create 35 permanent jobs: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/01/27/pipeline-backers-make-big-promises-about-jobs-growth.html

The Dakota pipeline would probably create even fewer permanent jobs.

The idea that a pipeline would create more jobs is absurd on its surface, since that oil would be transported via truck, train, or ship into the US without the pipeline, and these methods would employ many more people.

And in what universe is this pipeline uncontroversial? It was literally stopped by thousands upon thousands of protesters in a nationwide outcry. The fact that he seems to be so uninformed about the pipeline protests is damning evidence that he lives in his own bubble surrounded by a force-field of alternative facts.

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