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#1109222
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ROTJ "Pre-film Training" Edit
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^ Usually you’d need some pretty good upsides to invest a lot of time and effort into an idea, such as the late Starkiller Firing in TFA:Gentle Restructure. I’m not sure what the potential upsides to such a change actually are.

Another possible crawl, this one playing up the finality of the conflict and differentiating it from the plot of the previous films:

It is a time of open war. As the Rebellion gathers its strength for a decisive strike, Luke Skywalker has returned to the hidden world of Dagobah to complete his Jedi training.

Unable to face the revelations of Darth Vader, he awaits a summons from his friends as they attempt to rescue Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt.

Little do they know that the EMPEROR, intent on completing his Imperial fortress, has been secretly constructing a Death Star to secure his tyrannical rule once and for all…

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#1109160
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ROTJ "Pre-film Training" Edit
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It may not even be necessary to remove the line ‘I have a promise to keep, to an old friend’, since he has promised to ‘finish what he begins’ and complete the training. No doubt he believes that he has left his training unfinished yet again to go rescue Han Solo, only to be corrected when he goes to Dagobah one last time. Also, this line made it seem (to me) that Luke had spent more time with Yoda than we were led to expect given the events of ESB, so it could further imply their close friendship. In the theatrical version of the movie, it just sounds like Yoda is a friend and also happens to be old, which is rather less compelling.

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#1109148
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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adywan said:

I haven’t had time to go through every comment yet, but here are a few things that WON’T be happening in ROTJ:R -

Extra Boba Fett / Boba Surviving - Boba is going to die ( someone already guessed the one way i’m planning on killing him 😉 )

Unless I missed a guess, that narrows the guesses down to one.
And if that’s true, then that’s an ambitious change and I can’t wait to see it in action 😃

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#1109066
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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nhoj3 said:

Proposed Revisited ROTJ Opening Crawl (85 words, 7 more than original):

While his friends have scoured the galaxy for Han Solo, Luke Skywalker has evaded Darth Vader’s relentless pursuit by continuing his Jedi training on the secret planet of Dagobah.

With Han finally discovered in the lair of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt, Luke has left his training once again to join his friends in a daring rescue attempt.

Little do they know that the GALACTIC EMPIRE has secretly been constructing a new armored space station even more powerful than the first dreaded Death Star…

Here’s your crawl edited to remove some redundancy:

It is a time of open war. As the Imperial Starfleet struggles to contain the growing Rebel Alliance, Luke Skywalker has continued his Jedi training on the hidden world of Dagobah.

Meanwhile, his friends have traveled to Tatooine in an attempt to rescue Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt.

Little do they know that the GALACTIC EMPIRE has secretly been constructing a new armored space station even more powerful than the first dreaded Death Star…

In this version, the scenes could stay as they are. In fact, the crawl now mirrors the structure of the first act with the Death Star scene occurring first, then Tatooine, then Dagobah. Now it appears that Luke was only called away for a few days to rescure Han, and is returning to find Yoda pretty much as he left him. Luke doesn’t seem surprised that Yoda is in poor health, and even tries to deny his obvious infirmity out of politeness.

JEDIT: Good idea Ender. Perhaps something like this:

It is a time of open war. As the Rebellion gathers its strength for a decisive strike, Luke Skywalker has returned to the hidden world of Dagobah to complete his Jedi training.

Unable to face the question of his true father, he awaits word from his friends as they prepare to rescue Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt.

Little do they know that the GALACTIC EMPIRE has secretly been constructing a new armored space station even more powerful than the first dreaded Death Star…

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#1108102
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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joefavs said:

NeverarGreat said:

Don’t know if this has been posted before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=861&v=nVZGUV77aRg
The guy’s got a point, y’all.

This is wonderful.

Alderaan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Don’t know if this has been posted before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=861&v=nVZGUV77aRg
The guy’s got a point, y’all.

That was unwatchable.

I’m glad we all agree.

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#1107981
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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According to the EU (I know, I know) the gas giant Endor has nine moons. The mining operation could take place on one or more of these moons, and we could see a partially destroyed moon passing in front of Endor prime in one shot. There’s some potential here for striking imagery, ala Avatar:
Endor and its moons

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#1107884
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

The interior of the Sentinel’s cockpit is similar to the Lambda’s anyway (unlike the Zeta), so he wouldn’t have to change anything there.

So does the exterior nose, which means some background replacement for the docking bay set instead of replacing every set piece.

I am, however, very much in favor of seeing a string of thousands of various cargo/construction crafts moving between the Death Star and the moon, which can include the Zeta-class; for there it makes sense and I hope we see it.

I was thinking of this too, but does the current dialog on the Star Destroyer allow for Tydirium to just be one of hundreds they’ve seen today? And would they all have to pass right over the Destroyer and “fly casual”?

It would be cool to see dozens of shuttles milling about the Death Star, but since the moon only contains the shield generator and this is operational, there shouldn’t be many craft traveling that way. So perhaps Tydirium is in a line of shuttles headed for the Death Star but breaks away for the moon, taking it across the path of the destroyer.

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#1107872
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All Things Star Trek
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ChainsawAsh said:

Vengeance is absolutely fantastic. One of the best fanedits in general I’ve seen, and it’s the definitive version of STID for me.

I just saw this edit, after last seeing the original over a year ago. This is the first edit I’ve seen that makes me wonder why I disliked the original, since it’s so seamless in excising the bad. It all seems effortless, which is all the more impressive since there were so many changes.

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#1107851
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Movies generally considered &quot;bad&quot; that you like.
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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

captainsolo said:

I will admit that I’ve only been absolutely destroyed by how devastatingly bad a picture is a handful of times. One was CR 2006. One was Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. One was TFA. And then there was what happened to poor Speed.

After watching the trailer, my brother and I looked at each other and knew that this wasn’t going to be a return to the used-universe aesthetic of the originals, no matter what JJ had promised.

I assume you were pleasantly surprised in this regard when you saw the film.

I had already known that a lot of the creatures and props would be practical, but there’s no denying that few frames of the movie are untouched by digital enhancement. That and the more modern editing style did take some getting used to, but eventually I came to appreciate the film for what it was and not my unrealistic vision of what it could probably never have been.

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#1107808
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Movies generally considered &quot;bad&quot; that you like.
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captainsolo said:

I will admit that I’ve only been absolutely destroyed by how devastatingly bad a picture is a handful of times. One was CR 2006. One was Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. One was TFA. And then there was what happened to poor Speed.

A common thread for all these films is that they are updating the look and feel of a much older property. Not having much history with the Bond franchise, I didn’t mind Casino Royale and it seemed competently made. KotCS was a disappointment on much more than the visual style of course, but the new look and feel of TFA was expected since the final trailer, for me at any rate. I remember the moment when I had to adjust my expectations: After watching the trailer, my brother and I looked at each other and knew that this wasn’t going to be a return to the used-universe aesthetic of the originals, no matter what JJ had promised. Everything about the production looked modern, slick, and CG’d. Everyone’s had time to get used to the new look of Star Wars, but it was quite a disappointment to see such an iconic look be sublimated into a film for modern sensibilities. Were my expectations unrealistic? Absolutely. I think it’s important to appreciate a work of art as it exists in the present day, and not hold it to the standard of a time long gone. After all, if Star Wars was made today you can bet that it would use CGI and the cinematographic shorthand of the time.

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